Well part of it all is that a message leaves a device and arrives on a device and isn't retained anywhere.
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The new iMessage
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Would somebody be willing to post a screenshot or link to a screenshot that shows what the new keyboard looks like in a conversation? I'll attach a cropped image of my keyboard currently. I'm just curious what the "new" one looks like.
And for one user who said the microphone button can be "easily avoided" I press it on accident at least once per day. I would love to be able to remove it from the keyboard.
If Apple is going to add features, that is great, but please give the end-user the choice of what they want to have enabled.
And for one user who said the microphone button can be "easily avoided" I press it on accident at least once per day. I would love to be able to remove it from the keyboard.
If Apple is going to add features, that is great, but please give the end-user the choice of what they want to have enabled.
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And that's different from people sending you messages in other ways you don't like? What if I don't like gifs? Can I disable those as well? How about images period? Should I be able to disable people sending me images? Links? How much should I be able to disable before it becomes too much of a burden?
I think thats a little different. My brother-in-law is going to intentionally spam my conversation with him because he knows its annoying. Getting images, GIFS and links are different than "slamming" every single message.
Yes, but Messages is already (at least, i thought it was) utilizing iCloud to deliver SMS messages to the other devices, so it should be (I would think) fairly easy to expand that to include tracking the status and deleting from the other devices when a message is deleted on one (not unlike how IMAP works)...
Thanks! That isn't bad at all. I'm sure I'll accidentally press that occasionally but not nearly as bad as I was thinking it would be.
If you hit the arrow it opens threes more icons but default is what I attached.
Yes, that's how I thought it worked too. Even with end to end encryption enabled, there's got to be some way for a user's devices to communicate with one another to sync these types of changes. Hell, even if it's a Continuity feature and they need to be in proximity of one another to sync I'd be okay with it. Just as long as some type of basic syncing occurs, I'd be very happy!
That part might work in some fashion, I was mostly referring to storing content and making it available on iCloud.com for example.
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Someone annoying like that could be just calling your phone every few minutes or forwarding you "spammy" funny emails constantly. The issue seems to be more on the side of who we deal with and not what they choose to potentially abuse.
Well its family, can't do anything about it. I just think that we should have options to disable digital touch and bubble effects. Messages is going to get extremely bloated. Is there anyone here that actually wants these so-called 'features'?
Ah, gotcha! Yeah, a web client would surely be nice but personally, I care way more about syncing threads and deletions and that kind of stuff. I honestly sometimes forget that Messages still aren't synced in that way since everything else pretty much is at this point! The fact that the desktop Messages app apparently stores documents and data in the cloud in Sierra makes me feel like this could be coming in some form...we'll see!
My .02 --
Unfortunately there are yahoos on this forum who all extoll the same viewpoint that the kids in Asia are going to eat this up. It's also unfortunate that a company whose claim to fame was once an elegant and (somewhat) clean UI are now pivoting to cater to the kids who want to "slam" messages and send stickers.
It's also a bit hypocritical of some people on here to say this, as at some points I see people posting "Apple isn't following trends, Apple is telling people what they want" and then when situations like this arise all of a sudden "Apple is heeding the emerging trends around the world."
I've said it before and I'll say it again, as a person who has a profession based solely on visual design (responsive web, apps, etc.), their visual design language on iOS is more fractured than ever before. Design itself may be subjective and if people want to disagree and believe that the Music app or News looks great to them, that's fine -- but in all honesty to me it looks like the work of a company who has too many Cooks (pun intended?) in the kitchen. How many times did we read that Apple were "working hard" to improve the UX and look of the Music app, and this is what we're rewarded with?
Frankly it's an embarrassment and all the more affirmation that Apple is no longer a bastion of sound visual design and user experience.
So I've been digging around and I can't seem to figure this one thing out...is anyone here running both iOS 10 and Sierra? I'm wondering how the Mac handles all these new features. I know in the keynote they said that the Mac Messages app will be updated to bring it in line with the iOS app, but I'm trying to figure out what exactly that means. I'm guessing this means that the Mac app will be able to view all these invisible ink messages and emojis and whatnot, but will it be able to send them too? The handwriting feature is pretty cool I gotta admit, and it'd be nice if they'd let us scribble on the trackpad to send one.
I use Telegram a lot which uses end to end encryption and syncs across all devices including web based. No reason why iCloud couldn't implement this feature?
As for iMessage, no company can please every user with new products and updates. As the product line goes on they will inevitably lose customer base but also gain too. It's evolution. I'm pretty sure if iOS was still featureless like iOS 5 or 6 way more people would be complaining than the amount who don't like the new iMessage features.
I've been using iOS 10 since it was released and can honestly say iMessage really isn't that bad. Yes the gimmicky stuff is there and yes people will send me it occasionally, but I can tell them to stop or just wait until the novelty wears off. I don't think it will be as bad as some think. Times are changing, communication mediums are changing and Apple has had to leave the path they once followed to stay current and to gain new customers to replace the ones that leave because there are "no features" in iOS.
I think it's great they're opening up more to developers. If they can merge together the optimised OS with the hardware and still allow developers to be creative then I'm all for it. I've seen how open source effects an OS (Android) and I really don't like it. Fragmentation across user base and unoptimised OS which caused no end of investigations as to why some days my battery would get obliterated in 6 hours!
There's always windows 10 phones?
As for iMessage, no company can please every user with new products and updates. As the product line goes on they will inevitably lose customer base but also gain too. It's evolution. I'm pretty sure if iOS was still featureless like iOS 5 or 6 way more people would be complaining than the amount who don't like the new iMessage features.
I've been using iOS 10 since it was released and can honestly say iMessage really isn't that bad. Yes the gimmicky stuff is there and yes people will send me it occasionally, but I can tell them to stop or just wait until the novelty wears off. I don't think it will be as bad as some think. Times are changing, communication mediums are changing and Apple has had to leave the path they once followed to stay current and to gain new customers to replace the ones that leave because there are "no features" in iOS.
I think it's great they're opening up more to developers. If they can merge together the optimised OS with the hardware and still allow developers to be creative then I'm all for it. I've seen how open source effects an OS (Android) and I really don't like it. Fragmentation across user base and unoptimised OS which caused no end of investigations as to why some days my battery would get obliterated in 6 hours!
There's always windows 10 phones?
I'm just going to relatively quietly take solace in the fact that OS X Lion also felt like it was going off the rails with its features, and they eventually course corrected a number of the most bone headed decisions.
Remember when a secondary monitor just showed a linen pattern? I'm pretty sure there were people spinning that as a good idea too at the time.
Having lived through the eras of ICQ and windows live messenger, I'm more than familiar with these fads and their cyclical nature.
Remember when a secondary monitor just showed a linen pattern? I'm pretty sure there were people spinning that as a good idea too at the time.
Having lived through the eras of ICQ and windows live messenger, I'm more than familiar with these fads and their cyclical nature.
There are tons of curmudgeons on this board. You don't have to use any of the new features. They are just fun ways to express yourself through texting.
How is receiving a bunch of slams going to affect you? You just don't like the way it looks? That's silly...
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Ah, that's what I was thinking of! I thought I'd read recently of a messaging app that uses both end to end encryption and has proper syncing enabled. I didn't even realize it had a web option too though, that's interesting. Apple really could (and should) figure out a way to implement this and soon, I hope...
Looks like we have our winner. Every year it's something this board has to complain about, looks like iMessage going to take the heat this year.
It's almost comical how people react to changes. Don't like the new features then don't use them. Your experience won't change.
Don't like iOS 10, maybe upgrading isn't for you, or maybe a different platform would be a better choices
But nitpicking apart an app because you personally don't like it is silly because products are designed and marketed to appeal to the greatest number of people.
It's almost comical how people react to changes. Don't like the new features then don't use them. Your experience won't change.
Don't like iOS 10, maybe upgrading isn't for you, or maybe a different platform would be a better choices
But nitpicking apart an app because you personally don't like it is silly because products are designed and marketed to appeal to the greatest number of people.
the definition of a forum is an exchange of ideas.
i love critiquing things. i love it even more when the critique prompts others to critique the act of critiquing.
anyway, like i said, i've watched this before. windows messenger became msn messenger became windows live messenger and then it collapsed under the weight of its own bloat. even huge companies are not immune to thinking more is better until they're left with an ugly mess. and as for a "you don't have to use the features" approach, co-opting words and phrases that automatically generate full screen effects kinda doesn't leave us with a choice.
End-to-end encryption on Telegram is only available as a ‘secret chat’. These are only between two devices and are not synced.
The thing is that iPhones are used in all kinds of situations, including by professionals. It is absolutely fine if I want that kind of interaction in Facebook Messenger, but Messages is also the only SMS/MMS client that we have on iOS. I want it to have a more sober tone and don’t want to see fireworks, stickers or huge emojis. I do know people that like to use these things and I know that it is going to annoy me.
Look at WhatsApp, their offer is bare-bones and yet they have by far the most popular client. WhatsApp’s capabilities have always been subpar to the competition in almost every way and yet their growth has even accelerated, especially after Facebook took them over. Apple does not compete with WhatsApp, they compete with the relatively smaller clients, notably Snapchat and Facebook Messenger. I think that this is not worth it. Apple doesn’t need to compete with every popular app, they should offer a strong foundation for developers and good basic apps. IMO, they shouldn’t try to do the work that developers are already doing.
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There was streaming music before Apple Music. There was a VoIP client before FaceTime. Podcasts? Developers are doing it. So according to your logic, we might as well gut default apps and just throw third party ones on there.