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Unfortunately, and sadly, this actually has the ring of truth to it. And the worst part is, besides all the other worst parts, is that if there is one last upgrade, it will most likely be a feeble one.

Apple, watch your step. We made you, and we can break you. Mark my words.

yeah and this appears to be what will happen .

remember the Motorola Razor…

Apple has drifted into 2 segments and is neglecting the desktop/pc

segment. I could see Apple turning fully mobile. Which I think is not what they should do.
 
yeah and this appears to be what will happen .

remember the Motorola Razor…

Apple has drifted into 2 segments and is neglecting the desktop/pc

segment. I could see Apple turning fully mobile. Which I think is not what they should do.

The only thing that made Apple is iTunes. Once mobile phone manufacturers started to include cameras and mp3 players Apple had to get into the mobile phone market. Unfortunately none of the mobile phone manufacturers have done well long term, remembering Motorola, Ericson, Nokia, RIM etc. all overnight wonders and then a few years later: "who? what did they have?".

Same with cameras, film is gone and the compact cameras are no longer selling, replaced by mobile phones.

I did not wait and got myself a Fit-PC. Ugly, yes, but no fan and 5 year warranty.

http://www.fit-pc.com/web/products/specifications/?model[]=IPC-C3517V-WB-FM4U
 
I have to agree with you.

I just hope some sort of decision is made, Apple is becoming so boring on the computer side of things. TB Display over 3 years old, the Mini, peripherals are all a few years old now. They're losing their interest in pushing the envelope it seems.

Haswell chart:

Not sure where that chart came from but its incorrect on the HD 5000 - it also has 40 EUs. The wattage is incorrect and the frequencies look so as well. I couldn't find an official Intel spec sheet but this Wikipedia article is consistent with what's on Anandtech, etc.
 

For twice the cost of the 2.3Ghz Quad i7 it offers a dual i7 with the same HD4000 graphics?

No Thunderbolt but MiniPCIe socket and miniDisplayPort?

6 Gigabit ports, 6 USB 2.0 ports, only 2 USB 3.0 ports and no Firewire 800?

Legacy connections only useful for the mini-server market it's designed for such as a 1 x RS232 - Ultra mini serial connector?

Yeah, that's impressive for the price of 2 x 2.3Ghz Quad i7 Mac Minis ;)
 
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Not sure where that chart came from but its incorrect on the HD 5000 - it also has 40 EUs. The wattage is incorrect and the frequencies look so as well. I couldn't find an official Intel spec sheet but this Wikipedia article is consistent with what's on Anandtech, etc.

I think this may have been pre Haswell chart before all the specs were in. Anyways the Wikipedia would be the most up to date.
 
I think this may have been pre Haswell chart before all the specs were in. Anyways the Wikipedia would be the most up to date.

No worries :cool:

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Yeah, I was fooled by that FanlessTech watermark when I saw the earlier leaked slides a few months ago...

Anyway, there will no doubt be fanless versions available from other vendors, like this Haswell NUC based on Intel's own motherboard.
http://www.logicsupply.eu/systems/nuc-computers/core-ml320/

There are plenty of others selling similar products, some with case designs of their own and some just assembling computers in Akasa's fanless cases for NUC boards. But the one from Logic Supply is the only one I have found that is available in orange! :) And it has gotten good reviews too, with no signs of thermal throtting from what I have read.

The Broadwell i5 version of this will probably be my fallback when I give up on waiting for the new Mini. I'm a dual-core i5 kind of guy, so this is the right one for me. But it may fall short for those who are dreaming of the quad-core i7 Mini...

In any case it's interesting to see that Intel is apparently planning on keeping the same TDP compared to the Haswell NUCs, suggesting that they will take the 14nm gains out as performance improvements rather than lowering the power consumption.

Never heard of Akasa, thanks for mentioning them. The Newton X looks awesome and is roughly the footprint of a 3.5" hard drive:

A-NUC09-A1B_g01.jpg
 
Been busy and just realised it is Tuesday again…….

The thread's been busy over the week since it hit 3,000, adding on about 180 posts since then. At that rate, some time next month we should see 4,000 roll over

Meanwhile speculation remains rife as to the form and specs of a new Mac Mini, and just when it will roll out.
 
If we had betting odds for "New Mac Mini NOT released today", I'd say their value would be almost at 1 by now, in words, it seems that it won't come today...again...Mid 2014 Mini = Vaporware :x

Available to ship:
Within 24 hours

Pretty much 100% guaranteed vaporware at this point :/

oh well, pulling the trigger on i7 base and adding ram and SSD myself, I don't need the graphics (i do audio work) so it will be more than up to the task for at least 2 years........ and still better than anything running windows...
 
For twice the cost of the 2.3Ghz Quad i7 it offers a dual i7 with the same HD4000 graphics?

No Thunderbolt but MiniPCIe socket and miniDisplayPort?

6 Gigabit ports, 6 USB 2.0 ports, only 2 USB 3.0 ports and no Firewire 800?


I should have mentioned SERVER - can you fit 4 drives in the mac mini in different raid configurations? How many network connections does the Macmini have, more than 1? Didn't think so.
 
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I bet that Zotac is a jet engine. I am VERY curious about the HP 600 pro.

No, actually it's as noisy at full load as was MacBook Pro e2011 at full load, while have much more punch.

In fact you can install ddr3-1866 ram and boost it performance to near 80% of that benchmark on a nMacPro.

Of course, it's not a mac, but a very good one Linux pc you a can have a alternative system.
 
I should have mentioned SERVER - can you fit 4 drives in the mac mini in different raid configurations? How many network connections does the Macmini have, more than 1? Didn't think so.

So by your own admission and the specs that speak for themselves, it's a niche server product with nothing in common with the Mac Mini in the first place :)

Xserve killer makes a lot of sense though. But that's a dead product anyway.
 
Available to ship:
Within 24 hours

Pretty much 100% guaranteed vaporware at this point :/

oh well, pulling the trigger on i7 base and adding ram and SSD myself, I don't need the graphics (i do audio work) so it will be more than up to the task for at least 2 years........ and still better than anything running windows...

I bought the TOTL Mac Mini last January and have it networked to my 2011 27"iMac using VIenna Ensemble Pro 5 using the iMac as the sample slave. Plenty of power and I'm using libraies like LASS and Cinesamples.

I'm now using a Dell U3014 display for the Mac Mini that I got for $100 less than the Apple TB display with a Newegg special sale.
 
The new Mac mini is almost certainly coming

I think if every person who's ever owned a Mac Mini took a vow to never again buy an Apple product and stuck to that vow...



Apple would never even notice.


I have iphones, ipads, macbook and other accessories from apple. If i ever go back to windows, on my next purchase i will consider samsung phones and such devices. My family and friends see and get advice from my purchases. One customer is not limited to one product. Never underestimate.
 
If the new one doesn't launch tonight, I'm buying what there is, I can wait no-longer.
 
I have iphones, ipads, macbook and other accessories from apple. If i ever go back to windows, on my next purchase i will consider samsung phones and such devices. My family and friends see and get advice from my purchases. One customer is not limited to one product. Never underestimate.

Amen. Apple, watch yourself. No company is invincible. No sir.

I was most likely never going to get a mac of any type. But I wanted a small computer, I HATE all in ones, and there was nothing but crap available on the Win side of small computers. This was even before NUC :)

I now have a mini, looking for another (newer :) ) an iPad and iphone. And who knows maybe an Air sometime. Others may follow as I am a tech guy.

I most likely NEVER would have gotten interested except for the mini.

So, what about an entire company that wants Mac? They cannot get new tech mini for all 500 employees so that they can use their old monitors for a few more years?

Ain't no way he is going to buy 500 nMp. No way Jose!

So, like I said Apple, watch it.
 
I have iphones, ipads, macbook and other accessories from apple. If i ever go back to windows, on my next purchase i will consider samsung phones and such devices. My family and friends see and get advice from my purchases. One customer is not limited to one product. Never underestimate.

The person I was addressing was not talking about that. Not exactly fair to criticize me for not responding to a situation that wasn't being discussed!


My point was that Mini sales represent an insignificant portion of Apple sales. A company is under no obligation to sell a given product. And if you told your friends and family not to buy any Apple products because they stopped making a product that none of your friends and family want or have even heard of, you would be giving them very poor advice.

If Apple ever decides to stop making the Mini, threats of a boycott would only make them laugh. As they should.

I heard all kinds of similar vows and threats over the end of the 17-inch MacBook Pro. And time has demonstrated how ludicrous they were.
 
My point was that Mini sales represent an insignificant portion of Apple sales. A company is under no obligation to sell a given product. And if you told your friends and family not to buy any Apple products because they stopped making a product that none of your friends and family want or have even heard of, you would be giving them very poor advice.

If Apple ever decides to stop making the Mini, threats of a boycott would only make them laugh. As they should.

I heard all kinds of similar vows and threats over the end of the 17-inch MacBook Pro. And time has demonstrated how ludicrous they were.

FYI the mini outsells all other mini pc on market by ample margin, may represent an smaller fraction of Apple's income but actually represent millions in profits, not the same case as that 17“ mbp with very low sales and current tech don't allow for a retina version of the 17" mbp, if Apple consider profitable and have technology available to build it, the 17" retina mbp will arrive, money and management aren't arrogant sir, are efficient.

More ridiculous argument u read a year ago about the Mac Pro and "it's counted days" , then the new Mac Pro shut up all the lame comments.

I trust in something : Apple is being managed by the most professional and efficient team on the industry, the sinner responsible of the nMacMini delay sure isn't at Cuppertino but at Intel.
 
I trust in something : Apple is being managed by the most professional and efficient team on the industry, the sinner responsible of the nMacMini delay sure isn't at Cuppertino but at Intel.

I long for Broadwell and Skylake as much as anyone else on this forum. But to be fair to Intel: The decision to not sell a Haswell Mac Mini is Apple's, not Intel's. By nMacMini I guess you mean a new form factor, and that's another thing. But until it's made possible by a lower TDP in Broadwell, is it really too much to ask that Apple keeps up with the competition?
 
The person I was addressing was not talking about that. Not exactly fair to criticize me for not responding to a situation that wasn't being discussed!


My point was that Mini sales represent an insignificant portion of Apple sales. A company is under no obligation to sell a given product. And if you told your friends and family not to buy any Apple products because they stopped making a product that none of your friends and family want or have even heard of, you would be giving them very poor advice.

If Apple ever decides to stop making the Mini, threats of a boycott would only make them laugh. As they should.

I heard all kinds of similar vows and threats over the end of the 17-inch MacBook Pro. And time has demonstrated how ludicrous they were.


No threatening or boycot intended. I have been happily using my 08 aluminum macbook until recently. When my macbook started to fall i started research what i need. I am sure i want a desktop not a laptop. I could have a mini sitting on my desk if it were given a small gpu bump and i am sure many people would buy it immediately.

I am not saying i will boycot apple. I am stating a simple fact that i might like windows 8 and samsung phones because i left that ship at win xp. I'm sure i am not the only one. Its a prediction not a threat or wow.
 
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