The new Mac mini is almost certainly coming

[Crosscreek]

Exactly. Broadwell will be a significant upgrade. I still don't understand why there has been so much anticipation for a Haswell Mini. Apple still may refresh the Mini with a Haswell version. Except where Haswell systems have shown an improvement graphics performance they just aren't that much of an upgrade from 2012 Ivy Bridge and anyone who read what Intel said about what to expect from Haswell has known this for the last two years.

Considering a refresh rate of 2 years for the mini, I wouldn't think that Apple would not put what will be a mediocre bump for the purpose of releasing a "Mac of the future" when in a shrinking PC market they really need a performer not only in CPU but GPU also. Broadwell would satisfy that 2 year refresh rate.

 

[Nathan France]

http://www.weiphone.com/apple/MAC/2...ch_there_will_be_a_new_Mac_mini__577606.shtml

"In January there was a Belgian Mac reseller claiming they received inside information that Apple plans to launch a new generation of Mac mini will be before the end of February. Soon after, the news that Mac mini has begun to emerge out of stock in some dealers in Europe, suggesting that the approach of the new product. But now entered in March, the new Mac mini is still without it anyway, it will be in this month update?

Wei Feng network today learned through informed sources, the new generation of Mac mini will indeed be released in March, however, and after rumors difference is that Apple will not release stage for a mini-host this special match, but directly at the official website the update. That year, Apple will not be held in March new conference. Maybe you've heard of before, Mac mini and Apple TV will become a March conference protagonist.

As a new generation of Apple TV, although all indications show that it will soon Recently the usher updates - such as promotional older Apple TV, and other relevant technical staff recruitment, but go very close with Apple reporter Jim Dalrymple has denied These messages. How in the end result, we can only wait for a March strike."

 

[barkmonster]

My only concern is that Apple will not allow people to have access on RAM for the next model. At this point i think they wait for Broadwell release. So i think it's more like a redesign of some sort. Otherwise we would have seen the new mini already. I mean the cpu's are there, the much improved integrated graphics also, so what's keeping them to upgrade? It's not like it's not selling well either(it's funny how some can believe in numbers from obscure marketing groups who claim 0% mini sales for months; you must be really out off reality to buy into this). It's on 3'd place of best selling computers on Amazon. So i think Apple is trying to redesign the machine - if all they wanted was a normal upgrade the hardware is there since last year. My only hope is that we will still have user accessible RAM.

I'm wondering if they release it on the trailing edge of another product cycle and the new model will out around the same time as an update to some other product. I'd get a 2.3 or 2.6Ghz 2012 model off eBay or something myself if they do go for some form-over-function design.

 

[808?]

According to a Japanese website,
the mac mini 2014 out in March:

http://www.weiphone.com/apple/MAC/2...ch_there_will_be_a_new_Mac_mini__577606.shtml

It is a Chinese site, not Japanese.

 

[pcd109]

I'm wondering if they release it on the trailing edge of another product cycle and the new model will out around the same time as an update to some other product. I'd get a 2.3 or 2.6Ghz 2012 model off eBay or something myself if they do go for some form-over-function design.

This are the two big questions right now. They wait for Broadwell? First and second: they will redesign it to be less user friendly? It all depends on what they will see as a future for the mac mini line. So far the macpro and iMac 27" remain user accessible, so this gives us some hope. I think i will get one even if i don't have accesses to RAM if it comes with powerful graphics(broadwell is said to be 2-3x more powerful then IrisPro). I will just pay Apple price for RAM and that's it if i have no choice. I would rather have user upgradeable RAM though.

 

[AndreSt]

The current Mac mini including the SSD drive still has an increased delivery time. Now it's 1-2 weeks. But it has been 2-3 weeks for a very long time. Either they've run out of the previous SSD model and had to reevaluate/reorder a new model or there's something more interesting to come.
Apple can't just put in a standard SSD drive, they need to customize it. Otherwise at least the trim feature won't work. Maybe the delay just is because of that.

 

[fredr500]

Again

And another Tuesday bites the dust.

 

[squirrrl]

This are the two big questions right now. They wait for Broadwell? First and second: they will redesign it to be less user friendly? It all depends on what they will see as a future for the mac mini line. So far the macpro and iMac 27" remain user accessible, so this gives us some hope. I think i will get one even if i don't have accesses to RAM if it comes with powerful graphics(broadwell is said to be 2-3x more powerful then IrisPro). I will just pay Apple price for RAM and that's it if i have no choice. I would rather have user upgradeable RAM though.

Waiting for broadwell is crazy... They will update their better selling laptops with broadwell chips first before the mini (at least at the same time but not before) and nobody is going to want to buy a 2-3 year old mac mini for the same price they could have gotten it in 2012. They will either have to drop the price or come out with a moderate update (like haswell/iris graphics and/or upgraded/discounted SSD storage)

 

[barkmonster]

Waiting for broadwell is crazy... They will update their better selling laptops with broadwell chips first before the mini (at least at the same time but not before) and nobody is going to want to buy a 2-3 year old mac mini for the same price they could have gotten it in 2012. They will either have to drop the price or come out with a moderate update (like haswell/iris graphics and/or upgraded/discounted SSD storage)

I wouldn't be shocked if since the switch to the i5/i7 family of CPUs they develop the Mac Mini alongside the Macbook Pro that shares it's CPU/Chipset, then delay the release for marketing reasons. I know it's just guess work all the time but it's due an update and everything they could use to create it are available right now.

 

[DavidG328]

This are the two big questions right now. They wait for Broadwell? First and second: they will redesign it to be less user friendly? It all depends on what they will see as a future for the mac mini line. So far the macpro and iMac 27" remain user accessible, so this gives us some hope. I think i will get one even if i don't have accesses to RAM if it comes with powerful graphics(broadwell is said to be 2-3x more powerful then IrisPro). I will just pay Apple price for RAM and that's it if i have no choice. I would rather have user upgradeable RAM though.

Everyone would like user accessible RAM. It's the reason I'll likely sell my base model iMac for an upgraded 27" later this year.

Waiting for broadwell is crazy... They will update their better selling laptops with broadwell chips first before the mini (at least at the same time but not before) and nobody is going to want to buy a 2-3 year old mac mini for the same price they could have gotten it in 2012. They will either have to drop the price or come out with a moderate update (like haswell/iris graphics and/or upgraded/discounted SSD storage)

+1 on this. I don't see why they would update the Mini to Broadwell before anything else at all.

 

[squirrrl]

Here's yet another totally uninformed prediction from me:

New mac mini, apple tv, and iOS 7.1 release next tuesday to celebrate the start of the iTunes festival happening in Austin.

discuss....

 

[barkmonster]

Practically every conceivable build to order configuration of the 2012 Mac Mini is on the refurb page of the UK Apple Store. If this isn't a stock clearance to make room for new systems, I don't know what else it indicates!

 

[talmy]

Practically every conceivable build to order configuration of the 2012 Mac Mini is on the refurb page of the UK Apple Store. If this isn't a stock clearance to make room for new systems, I don't know what else it indicates!

They put them in the store in batches. This doesn't mean there are new systems coming.

 

[SpinalTap]

I cannot wait any longer, so bought one of the refurb Mini Server's on offer.

Delivery this Friday.

 

[tom vilsack]

Must be a UK thing....none here in Canada or U.S

 

[rbk123]

They put them in the store in batches. This doesn't mean there are new systems coming.

Maybe this will speed things up
http://vr-zone.com/articles/haswell-refresh-gets-priced-haswell-e-sku-expected-mid-year/73338.html

 

[cmgustin]

I cannot wait any longer, so bought one of the refurb Mini Server's on offer.

Delivery this Friday.

Same here.
I've been checking out this forum for the last 6 months, getting more and more frustrated with my old '09 mini.
So I bought the iMac 21.5 2.7GHz the other day.
Very nice! Now I can make some music with Logic Pro X!
/M

 

[Crosscreek]

If we see some thunderbolt display rumors or leaks, a refreshed or redesigned mini may come out then. I don't think Apple wants to sell you a new mini without a new display to go with it.

 

[Karlitr0s]

If we see some thunderbolt display rumors or leaks, a refreshed or redesigned mini may come out then. I don't think Apple wants to sell you a new mini without a new display to go with it.

They're selling us a Mac Pro with no display to go with it..

 

[Crosscreek]

They're selling us a Mac Pro with no display to go with it..

Yeh, that's very un Apple like.

 

[Karlitr0s]

Yeh, that's very un Apple like.

It seems like a weird thing to do considering that if you're willing to pay £2,500 on a computer, you're likely to spend £££s on a couple of 4k monitors go with it. I'd imagine that the recommendation of a Sharp monitor is a begrudging one, as they're not currently capable of producing one for one reason or another.

However, if they're not doing it for the Mac Pro, why should they do it for the Mac Mini?

 

[deconstruct60]

They're selling us a Mac Pro with no display to go with it..

What? If simply to go the online store page for the Mac Pro the ordering page has TWO display types on it. There is no new Apple docking station/display, but there is a relatively new to the market one there.

There is a display. Perhaps not the one some folks want.

The Apple docking station/display is a bit overdue for USB 3.0 and glossy screen abatement updates. But if there is a desktop Mac model it is tightly coupled to that would be the iMac. The device is basically a hollowed out iMac that has been tweaked slightly. If they are waiting on some other screen tech upgrade to peculate out through the iMac then may be in a for a longer wait.

 

[talmy]

Maybe this will speed things up
http://vr-zone.com/articles/haswell-refresh-gets-priced-haswell-e-sku-expected-mid-year/73338.html

Mac mini major updates tend to only happen when the current processors go out of production. The minis are a lagging product line with little concern about performance. For most customers this is fine (at least it is for me). If you are after a high performance system, look elsewhere.

 

[deconstruct60]

... I don't think Apple wants to sell you a new mini without a new display to go with it.

Given that Apple's docking station/display costs more than most of the Mac Mini line up, there is not likely a high coupling between Mini sales and docking station sales. In that market not many are going to spend more on the "monitor" than on the base computer.


For the Mini (and for Mac Pro to lessor extent) they are in far more need of a lower cost docking station/display than a refresh of the old one at the current price point. For example a 21.5" variant, at a far more reasonable price point, would be better.

 

[Crosscreek]

Given that Apple's docking station/display costs more than most of the Mac Mini line up, there is not likely a high coupling between Mini sales and docking station sales. In that market not many are going to spend more on the "monitor" than on the base computer.


For the Mini (and for Mac Pro to lessor extent) they are in far more need of a lower cost docking station/display than a refresh of the old one at the current price point. For example a 21.5" variant, at a far more reasonable price point, would be better.

That's just my point. No they wouldn't intend it for a mini refresh or redesign but it has been long in coming for the nMP and a mini introduction at the same time for a docking solution makes sense.