The new Mac mini is almost certainly coming

[Lankyman]

My Windows loving friends, who usually can't say enough bad things about OS X and Apple, are not happy with the forced updates thing in Windows 10.
As in very very very not happy. Never heard so much cursing from them about their precious Windows.

And who am I to argue?

You can actually set them to update at a time that suits you - why is this such a problem?

 

[Micky Do]

My Windows loving friends, who usually can't say enough bad things about OS X and Apple, are not happy with the forced updates thing in Windows 10.
As in very very very not happy. Never heard so much cursing from them about their precious Windows.

And who am I to argue?

Just got back from catching up with an acquaintance who uses a laptop in her bar…. The old one on Windows XP was playing up, so she got a new one with Windows 10.

"Too slow," she said. "Spent ages updating every time I switched it on".

A friend had a spare, legitimate copy of Windows 7 on a CD. She wiped the old computer and installed Windows 7 on it. She's happy with that, and the new one sits at home doing nothing. Being neither very demanding, nor all that tech savvy, she would probably have been better off with a base model Mac Mini, which would have cost little or nothing more than the new laptop.

 

[Apple fanboy]

Never out of date. The new Mac Mini is almost certainly coming…….. eternally.

Like 'Winter is coming?'

I guarantee we are a day closer to the new Mac Mini than we were yesterday!

 

[MarkusL]

Why is this thread even here? Too big to follow, about almost anything, and much of it is out of date.

Yeah, right. When I started following the thread 6 months from the start I went back to read it all, and today there are only 4500 more posts than there was then.

I plan to stick with it until they release something I can buy. The 2013 mini they released in 2014 didn't do it for me, but the new Mac mini is almost certainly coming. A decently priced mini based on Skylake before the processor is a year old could do the trick, especially if the 5400 rpm upsell bait is replaced by a 128GB SSD upsell bait. I'm one of those weird people who can survive with such a small internal storage and put the rest on my NAS.

Oh, and the reason much of the subject matter is out of date is that the thread is about the Mac mini... with the occasional jab at the Mac Pro.

 

[Crosscreek]

Just got back from catching up with an acquaintance who uses a laptop in her bar…. The old one on Windows XP was playing up, so she got a new one with Windows 10.

"Too slow," she said. "Spent ages updating every time I switched it on".

There is a very simple setting for update time in Windows 10. Tell your friend to go to update settings and specify the time for the update which comes normally once a week on Tuesday or Wednesday. The computer can be left on standby during the evening to download upgrade.

Mine is set to 3AM and when I wake up the computer (my Mac) all I have to do is a restart to Windows to complete the update.

No reason to waste a good computer. If a person has a bad experience the should do a simple search to research and rectify it. Just ask Google.

 

[Lankyman]

Just got back from catching up with an acquaintance who uses a laptop in her bar…. The old one on Windows XP was playing up, so she got a new one with Windows 10.

"Too slow," she said. "Spent ages updating every time I switched it on".

A friend had a spare, legitimate copy of Windows 7 on a CD. She wiped the old computer and installed Windows 7 on it. She's happy with that, and the new one sits at home doing nothing. Being neither very demanding, nor all that tech savvy, she would probably have been better off with a base model Mac Mini, which would have cost little or nothing more than the new laptop.

Well you know the saying, you can't argue with stupid. W10 is as far ahead of W7 as W7 was ahead of XP. Any new machine will have to load the latest updates until, well you guessed it, it's up to date . Had she done that then it would have been an excellent purchase.

I don't suppose you would have been able to assist or advise your friend though as you said in an earlier post you know almost nothing about computers.

 

[essiw]

There is a very simple setting for update time in Windows 10. Tell your friend to go to update settings and specify the time for the update which comes normally once a week on Tuesday or Wednesday. The computer can be left on standby during the evening to download upgrade.

Mine is set to 3AM and when I wake up the computer (my Mac) all I have to do is a restart to Windows to complete the update.

No reason to waste a good computer. If a person has a bad experience the should do a simple search to research and rectify it. Just ask Google.

I am not a windows hater, but the fact that you need to implement such work-around is plain user-unfriendly... Most people have no clue how to do stuff like that. Having forced updates is not something you should want, except for the really necessary security updates, which shouldn't be that big anyway. You should be in control of your computer, not the computer having control over you.

 

[Crosscreek]

I am not a windows hater, but the fact that you need to implement such work-around is plain user-unfriendly... Most people have no clue how to do stuff like that. Having forced updates is not something you should want, except for the really necessary security updates, which shouldn't be that big anyway. You should be in control of your computer, not the computer having control over you.

Yeah, it's mostly security updates that take 5 minutes or so. I never see it because it's already downloaded by the time I wake the Mini in the morning.

The initial setup takes awhile.

 

[dogslobber]

Never out of date. The new Mac Mini is almost certainly coming…….. eternally.

Now that the rMB refresh has occurred, we're nearer a Mini update than before.

 

[jpietrzak8]

Well you know the saying, you can't argue with stupid.

...

I don't suppose you would have been able to assist or advise your friend though as you said in an earlier post you know almost nothing about computers.

Wow, you know, I'm beginning to remember another reason why I never really enjoyed the Windows OS world.

 

[tokyodan]

There is a referb Mac Mini that is the same as a perfectly new one. The new one is $1090, The referb is $927. They are exactly the same. The new one is only $163 more than the referb. Is that saving worth it over spending a bit more to buy a new one?

 

[MRrainer]

Is the packaging really worth 163 USD? Because that's really all what is different between a refurb and a shrink-wrapped new one.
But I won't go down the value-proposition-hellhole in this thread ;-)

 

[Altis]

Now that the rMB refresh has occurred, we're nearer a Mini update than before.

Every day is nearer than before.

 

[tokyodan]

Is the packaging really worth 163 USD? Because that's really all what is different between a refurb and a shrink-wrapped new one.
But I won't go down the value-proposition-hellhole in this thread ;-)

But aren't the components newer? Depending on how much the refurb was used before it was refurbed it could wear out sooner than a really new one, no?

 

[jpietrzak8]

But aren't the components newer? Depending on how much the refurb was used before it was refurbed it could wear out sooner than a really new one, no?

Possibly. I've had pretty good results with the refurb Apple devices I've purchased (I'm typing this on a refurb 2010 Mini right now), so at least in my experience, Apple refurbs are fairly solid. (And you can get standard Applecare coverage for their refurbs, if you so desire.)

Of course, Apple used to produce machines with components that could be swapped out if problems occurred (RAM, drives, etc.). If you're looking at a modern non-upgradeable Mini, then yeah, you've gotta be a lot more careful about the quality of the initial components...

 

[koyoot]

http://www.patentlyapple.com/patent...s-mac-mini-is-now-a-registered-trademark.html

 

[MRrainer]

But aren't the components newer? Depending on how much the refurb was used before it was refurbed it could wear out sooner than a really new one, no?

This only concerns the fan and the disk-drive (if the Mini doesn't come with an SSD instead).
The disk-drive might work for years - or might fail soon. Nobody knows. My parents' 21" iMac lasted about six years into purchase before the disk gave in.
I'm sure the fan is getting cleaned very thoroughly in the refurb-process.

How long have refurbs been used by their previous customers, actually?

 

[Crosscreek]

http://www.patentlyapple.com/patent...s-mac-mini-is-now-a-registered-trademark.html

With the Intel news of slowing consumer chip development and concentrating efforts to cloud processors and enterprise that Apple will take over its own chip design and start switching Macs over to there Arm chips to be able to control there own destiny.

A lot of people will be looking at that lower option though as I am following it to see how it performs. Release date is May 11 so we will see initial results short after that. I don't see Apple trying to compete with that but I guess we will see.

 

[bse5150]

With the Intel news of slowing consumer chip development and concentrating efforts to cloud processors and enterprise that Apple will take over its own chip design and start switching Macs over to there Arm chips to be able to control there own destiny.

A lot of people will be looking at that lower option though as I am following it to see how it performs. Release date is May 11 so we will see initial results short after that. I don't see Apple trying to compete with that but I guess we will see.

If Apple moves its computers to the ARM processor they will cut off an entire segment of the Mac market. That segment being the people who run Windows on their Macs. I'm guessing that that is no small number.

Anyway, we'll all see what Apple is doing, when they do whatever it is that they're going to do with the Mac.

 

[Crosscreek]

If Apple moves its computers to the ARM processor they will cut off an entire segment of the Mac market. That segment being the people who run Windows on their Macs. I'm guessing that that is no small number.

Anyway, we'll all see what Apple is doing, when they do whatever it is that they're going to do with the Mac.

I don't think their too concerned about the people that run Windows on the Mac. After all the PC market is shrinking and IOS is their golden ticket ...at least that's what Tim thinks of the iPad Pro. The IOS store makes a hell of a lot more money than the OS X store.

With Tim it's all about profit not user experience.

 

[bse5150]

I don't think their too concerned about the people that run Windows on the Mac. After all the PC market is shrinking and IOS is their golden ticket ...at least that's what Tim thinks of the iPad Pro. The IOS store makes a hell of a lot more money than the OS X store.

With Tim it's all about profit not user experience.

Apple should spin off their Mac business. Let it become something that is actually interested in making Macintosh computers. Or, if Apple doesn't want to spin it off, they should license the OS to other companies that would love to be in the Mac market. The Mac, and its users, don't deserve the neglect that Apple is all too content in heaving upon them.

 

[Crosscreek]

Yeah, I agree. They have treated their Mac Pro people terrible. They just aren't that interested in the PC market and as Woz says it just a different Apple.

 

[dogslobber]

If Apple moves its computers to the ARM processor they will cut off an entire segment of the Mac market. That segment being the people who run Windows on their Macs. I'm guessing that that is no small number.

It's interesting you frame it like that but consider the opposite side. All those iOS apps suddenly become available to run natively on the desktop or touch screen laptop.

 

[Tiberius2000]

Yeah, it's mostly security updates that take 5 minutes or so. I never see it because it's already downloaded by the time I wake the Mini in the morning.

The initial setup takes awhile.

Yes, but the fact that there are so many, so frequent updates is the sign of a problem. Is there a continuos updates, the software should still be labeled, "Beta Testing."

 

[Crosscreek]

Yes, but the fact that there are so many, so frequent updates is the sign of a problem. Is there a continuos updates, the software should still be labeled, "Beta Testing."

Security updates are not Beta testing. There are many businesses that depend on their system to be secure and since Windows is the number 1 OS timely updates are necessary.