The new Mac mini is almost certainly coming

[jpietrzak8]

Is an 8GB Mini enough to run the latest OSX well and responsively? And is 8GB enough to future proof it...by that I mean to be able to run new versions of OSX well for the next 5 years?

Yes, OSX has been demanding more and more resources in the last few releases. I can say that 8GB is enough to run the latest OSX well and responsively (for most purposes anyway, it'll really depend on what apps you are running). Actually, 4GB is enough to run the latest OSX well and responsively, so long as you have a very light application load.

As for future proofing, though; who knows? I would say the best form of future proofing is to be prepared to upgrade the RAM when necessary, but of course, that is no longer possible with Apple's current set of machines. I guess the only option today is to get as much RAM as you can afford when you buy the machine, and cross your fingers...

 

[dogslobber]

Strange, i have a w10 machine that runs my iTunes now.
Thing is the w10 machine has been running 6 months solid, no issues, not a one.. Mini is powered off.

And you can prevent updates real easy too with the tool provided by MS.

Win 10 is impressive. I tried to hate it initially but on my Mac Mini 2009 with 5400 rpm spinner, it just flies. The same machine running 10.11 is a dog. I hate saying it but OS X really needs to take some lessons from what Microsoft did for Win 10 to make it more efficient. The bloat in 10.11 started with 10.7 so a 10.6 Second Edition in 10.12 would be awesome. Pretty please, Apple.

 

[AFEPPL]

what tool?

Couple of different ways, policy on pro versions, set a metered connection or the "show or hide updates" tool provided by MS

Download.
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/...-off#turn-automatic-updating-on-off=windows-8

Win 10 is impressive. I tried to hate it initially but on my Mac Mini 2009 with 5400 rpm spinner, it just flies. The same machine running 10.11 is a dog. I hate saying it but OS X really needs to take some lessons from what Microsoft did for Win 10 to make it more efficient. The bloat in 10.11 started with 10.7 so a 10.6 Second Edition in 10.12 would be awesome. Pretty please, Apple.

Completely agree. W10 was an eye opener for me, I'm running it on an old HP machine 2009, and it leaves the 2012 mac mini wanting plus its genuinely more stable and reliable for a media server. I don't have a laptop device running W10, so I'm not sure if id want to swap over my rMBP, but i do like what i see coming out of MS of late.

 

[Lankyman]

I just get the impression (and from reading tech mags I'm not the only one) that Apple no longer see OS X as a priority and in some ways desirable. I think they are totally focussed on iOS as that's where their main profits come from.

The stock markets are showing concern about iPhone shipment reductions and the advance of companies like Huawei. Make no mistake, Huawei may be seen by many as a joke or a budget phone maker but companies like Apple do not. They are a real threat to Apple's profits and have shown they can make some very good stuff.

Products like Mini are nothing more than a distraction for Apple who are looking to diversify and looking to do so quickly.

 

[tokyodan]

To tell the truth I'd love to see some outfit like Huawei come out and completely throw a wrench in Apple's works to teach them the error of their ways. I'd like to see Apple get punished in some way for leaving behind non-mobile computers and OSX. Cold and nasty I know but it is just how I honestly feel. Can't pretend that gut reactions don't exist.

 

[Santabean2000]

To tell the truth I'd love to see some outfit like Huawei come out and completely throw a wrench in Apple's works to teach them the error of their ways. I'd like to see Apple get punished in some way for leaving behind non-mobile computers and OSX. Cold and nasty I know but it is just how I honestly feel. Can't pretend that gut reactions don't exist.

Nothing but a serious financial hit will make them pause. I just hope they don't get too far out to sea before they realise.

 

[jpietrzak8]

To tell the truth I'd love to see some outfit like Huawei come out and completely throw a wrench in Apple's works to teach them the error of their ways. I'd like to see Apple get punished in some way for leaving behind non-mobile computers and OSX.

Eh, I can't blame Apple. They've achieved mighty profits following Job's policy of "find a popular product with an unwieldy user interface, revolutionize the user interface, and take over that niche." The fact that Jobs had no real long-term plans for what to do after taking control of the niche doesn't really detract from the amazing mega-bucks they've earned with this strategy.

I think Apple will soon be feeling some pain. To maintain their current growth rate, they need to come up with a new iPod- or iPhone-like product every few years, and I don't think they'll be able to keep doing that. Either they'll have to figure out how to maintain a long-term living with some of their existing products, or just crash and burn...

 

[Crosscreek]

Apple may find market growth tough since the tablet and phone markets are being invaded by cut-rate manufacturers in Asian countries with quality builds at half the price.

IOS has been a great success for Apple and the App store and ApplePay are bring in revenue.

But this is not enough for investors which may turn into a huge problem. Apple Car will not do it because you will probably have to be wealthy to own one. The Watch is selling but it is not the jewel that Tim envisioned.

They will need to reinvent something very soon to keep interest for investors.

 

[DesertSurfer]

For some reason I have not been getting notifications on this thread. Is the new Mac mini still almost certainly coming? I hear it may have wheels, and will only run Windows 10.

 

[Crosscreek]

For some reason I have not been getting notifications on this thread. Is the new Mac mini still almost certainly coming? I hear it may have wheels, and will only run Windows 10.

As far as I heard its now called iPad Pro and runs on IOS.

 

[DesertSurfer]

As far as I heard its now called iPad Pro and runs on IOS.

Great! Can I get one on the Windows Store?

 

[Crosscreek]

Great! Can I get one on the Windows Store?

No....That one has a real Intel processor.

 

[anthorumor]

It seems the tables have turned in the computing world - we have Wintels on sticks, Surface Pro and Windows 10 which in itself is rather impressive seeing that Microsoft is running it on XBOX, Mobile, and Desktop.
Our beloved Mac Mini form factor and desktop computing for Apple is looking quite sad indeed.

 

[Lankyman]

It seems the tables have turned in the computing world - we have Wintels on sticks, Surface Pro and Windows 10 which in itself is rather impressive seeing that Microsoft is running it on XBOX, Mobile, and Desktop.
Our beloved Mac Mini form factor and desktop computing for Apple is looking quite sad indeed.

This state of affairs at Apple can be summed up in one word - 'arrogance'.

 

[dogslobber]

This state of affairs at Apple can be summed up in one word - 'arrogance'.

It happens to every rule-by-committee company when they're leading. Look at Intel, technical progress in x64 chips has stalled as there's no competition. Apple's problem is they don't have a leader who is a visionary. They are left with a bunch of yes wo/men who have hit the bottom of Steve's todo list. Tim Cook is a good COO but you need a visionary, otherwise they're just becoming another tech company.

 

[jpietrzak8]

Apple's problem is they don't have a leader who is a visionary.

This is not necessarily a bad thing! Certainly, Jobs pointed the company towards underserved (or improperly served) niches of the market, focussed the entire resources of Apple on creating a breakthrough device, and produced marvels. What Jobs didn't do, though, was follow through. I personally loved the iPod, but in my opinion, it kind of stagnated after it took the world by storm, and it's gone now. I like the idea of a simple portable data storage device, something a whole heck of a lot simpler than a smartphone; there's still gotta be a market out there for it, but Apple apparently can't be bothered to maintain it. It looks like desktop computers are the next item on the list to be dropped -- I mean hey, you can't think of a better way to market iMacs than to make them thinner? Who cares about how many millimeters you can shave off of the depth of a monitor?

In any case, Apple needs to transition away from a company that produces a breakthrough product every few years, to one that can maintain their existing products a little longer. Rather than a visionary, Apple needs someone with a longer-term view, someone who can keep a product line going a little longer so as to maintain customer loyalty...

 

[Crosscreek]

In any case, Apple needs to transition away from a company that produces a breakthrough product every few years, to one that can maintain their existing products a little longer. Rather than a visionary, Apple needs someone with a longer-term view, someone who can keep a product line going a little longer so as to maintain customer loyalty...

Stock holders don't want to hear that. lol

 

[tokyodan]

Three more today. I think Apple is house cleaning and selling new Minis as refurbs so as not to let some cat out of some bag. Probably wishful thinking. But like I said, I've been watching Apple Japan's refurb section for the last 4 months and hardly ever saw a Mini there, but there has been a lot of them over the last week:

http://www.apple.com/jp/shop/browse/home/specialdeals/mac/mac_mini

 

[Serban]

i think based on intel today releases mac mini can come with

• Skylake i5-6685R with Iris Pro 580, DDR4

 

[Lankyman]

Three more today. I think Apple is house cleaning

Or it could be they're looking down the back of the sofa for some extra pennies given the drop in sales and profits they've reported today.

 

[tokyodan]

Or it could be they're looking down the back of the sofa for some extra pennies given the drop in sales and profits they've reported today.

Haha! Good for em!

 

[Micky Do]

Well you know the saying, you can't argue with stupid. W10 is as far ahead of W7 as W7 was ahead of XP. Any new machine will have to load the latest updates until, well you guessed it, it's up to date . Had she done that then it would have been an excellent purchase.

I don't suppose you would have been able to assist or advise your friend though as you said in an earlier post you know almost nothing about computers.

Who are you suggesting is stupid?

No, I don't know much about computers, the average Joe or Jill and my friend knows even less….. Happy to leave that to geeks. I don't really want to know much.

What I liked about the first Mac I came across when I went to university in 1985 was that I didn't need to know much. I could just do stuff.

Same with the first computer I bought in 2005, the original Mac Mini. It got easier with the 2009 Mac Mini I am using now, on which I installed iWork. It may not have all the features of Office, but it has all I need, and is easier and more instinctive to work with.

No, I couldn't advise my friend. Why should I have to in this day and age when computers are ubiquitous? Should be able to just take them home, turn them on and do stuff, not wait for the latest updates to do their thing.

Yesterday I went to work and turned on a computer with W10 installed. It crashed immediately and needed a restart , and then was preoccupied with updates…. again… before it was available to use. Meanwhile, the W7 machine next to it started up and I was done before the W10 machine was ready to use.

My Mac Mini at home is still on Mountain Lion because I have no need of the features that come with later versions of OS X. Updates come in automatically, and I am notified only when they are ready to be installed; all fairly hassle free.

Thankfully the new Mac Minis will almost certainly continue to come, and I will almost certainly get one in a couple or three years.

 

[Lankyman]

Thankfully the new Mac Minis will almost certainly continue to come, and I will almost certainly get one in a couple or three years.

I think you should.

 

[Cape Dave]

Who are you suggesting is stupid?

No, I don't know much about computers, the average Joe or Jill and my friend knows even less….. Happy to leave that to geeks. I don't really want to know much.

What I liked about the first Mac I came across when I went to university in 1985 was that I didn't need to know much. I could just do stuff.

Same with the first computer I bought in 2005, the original Mac Mini. It got easier with the 2009 Mac Mini I am using now, on which I installed iWork. It may not have all the features of Office, but it has all I need, and is easier and more instinctive to work with.

No, I couldn't advise my friend. Why should I have to in this day and age when computers are ubiquitous? Should be able to just take them home, turn them on and do stuff, not wait for the latest updates to do their thing.

Yesterday I went to work and turned on a computer with W10 installed. It crashed immediately and needed a restart , and then was preoccupied with updates…. again… before it was available to use. Meanwhile, the W7 machine next to it started up and I was done before the W10 machine was ready to use.

My Mac Mini at home is still on Mountain Lion because I have no need of the features that come with later versions of OS X. Updates come in automatically, and I am notified only when they are ready to be installed; all fairly hassle free.

Thankfully the new Mac Minis will almost certainly continue to come, and I will almost certainly get one in a couple or three years.

Well, which is it? 2 or 3 years? As you can see from this thread, we are very SPECIFIC about our mac mini's and when they may or may not be arriving and whether we may or may not purchase one. Please go along with the general theme of this thread which is precision and specificity. Two or three just won't cut it

 

[t0mat0]

Is the Mac Mini destined to come out after the Mac Pro and MBPs?
Whilst the Skull Canyon NUCs are coming soon - if Apple wants to announce new Macabook Pro's at WWDC, maybe the Mac Pro then or later - why would they have the Mac Mini be before these?
Wouldn't they want the BYOKMM Mac Mini after the notebooks and desktop refresh?
If there's an upcoming TB3 Display wouldn't Apple want it to be shown with Mac Pro first?