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The new Mac mini is almost certainly coming

Crosscreek said:
I know a lot of you don't want to hear about the N product anymore but I have 1 last video that compares performance of the N to the 2015 MacBook Pro which seems like a more informative and honest comparison.

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I like hearing about competing products. Thanks. Checking it out now.
 
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I know this thread is for Mac mini but anyone else feels the need for Apple to introduce the Mac. Not Mac mini, not Mac Pro, the Mac.
Decent size tower, with many ports, room for multiple drives and ventilation and of course quad core CPU.
Priced around 1900, it will fill the gap for people who need desktop power but don't want a monitor.
 
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talmy said:
Pretty low. Frankly the current models will do the job for 99% of Mac mini customers. Far more likely WWDC will have new rMBPs and maybe MPs. These are sold as high performance machines.
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True, but if you are buying a machine today, you want it to be semi current for at least two more years. That is not true for the current Mini. In two years, it will be 4 year old machine struggling with 4K when that will be the new norm.
 
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navaira said:
The only thing that doesn't work right on my Big Hac is Apple Music videos, they just get stuck at 0:00. Or maybe they used to get stuck and now it's fixed, but I am not going to subscribe to AM just to check that.
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Those work just fine on mine. I'm using clover just fyi.
 
lympero said:
I know this thread is for Mac mini but anyone else feels the need for Apple to introduce the Mac. Not Mac mini, not Mac Pro, the Mac.
Decent size tower, with many ports, room for multiple drives and ventilation and of course quad core CPU.
Priced around 1900, it will fill the gap for people who need desktop power but don't want a monitor.
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Not me. I think Apple have made the iMac that offering power wise. An all in one unit with a fabulois screen. I'm hoping new new Mini will have enough power at the top end of the model range to be the computer you want, it used to be with the quad core no ? Also $1900 for a box without a screen, seems a small niche ?
 
lympero said:
I know this thread is for Mac mini but anyone else feels the need for Apple to introduce the Mac. Not Mac mini, not Mac Pro, the Mac.
Decent size tower, with many ports, room for multiple drives and ventilation and of course quad core CPU.
Priced around 1900, it will fill the gap for people who need desktop power but don't want a monitor.
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People have been asking for this for years. Large numbers of Mac users want a big tower back. Large numbers want a 'headless iMac' with expansion room. Large numbers would like a MacBook that's more like a classic ThinkPad workhorse instead of non-upgradable thowaway ultra-thin stuff for £2500. None of this is going to happen. Ever.

I love Mac OS X, and I've really tried to like Windows 10 and just can't, but NOTHING about the entire Mac product line makes me feel anything other than frustrated and slightly angry.
 
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Jambalaya said:
Not me. I think Apple have made the iMac that offering power wise. An all in one unit with a fabulois screen. I'm hoping new new Mini will have enough power at the top end of the model range to be the computer you want, it used to be with the quad core no ? Also $1900 for a box without a screen, seems a small niche ?
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Fabulous screen if you like high gloss. Personally I'd rather a high end Mac Mini and I could get another NEC Spectraview connected to it.
Something like the old Cube size which you could open and swap out the Hard drive and upgrade the RAM.
However the chances of that are similar to Leicester City winning the Champions league!
 
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i wonder what is this ?! :)
 

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I seen a rumor from someone that uses the dark net that a radically redesigned Mac Mini was being developed.

I do not put much trust from people who frequent the dark side.
 
Macist said:
People have been asking for this for years. Large numbers of Mac users want a big tower back. Large numbers want a 'headless iMac' with expansion room. Large numbers would like a MacBook that's more like a classic ThinkPad workhorse instead of non-upgradable thowaway ultra-thin stuff for £2500. None of this is going to happen. Ever.

I love Mac OS X, and I've really tried to like Windows 10 and just can't, but NOTHING about the entire Mac product line makes me feel anything other than frustrated and slightly angry.
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You say large numbers. A few dozen people on gadget forums is not large numbers to a company like Apple.
 
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brendu said:
You say large numbers. A few dozen people on gadget forums is not large numbers to a company like Apple.
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And each one of us on here represents at least 1000 more who feel the same but do not spend their time on forums. And yet they WOULD spend their time at an Apple store and buy one of the new beasts we hope for.
 
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You say large numbers. A few dozen people on gadget forums is not large numbers to a company like Apple.
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The thing is, Apple doesn't chase existing markets, so much as redefine them. The iPod brought MP3 players to the masses; the iPhone both empowered and simplified the smart phone market. The Mini and iMac have (at least in the past) dominated the Small-Form-Factor and All-In-One segments of the PC market.

But Apple has studiously ignored the heart of the PC market, the classic expandable tower PC. As such, their desktop lineup has a huge gap in the middle of it. The Mini's hardware, while superb for such a small device, is necessarily inferior to pretty much any other desktop PC, and inadequate for many tasks. The iMac contains the elements of a classic desktop system (a monitor, a CPU, a GPU, a long-term-storage drive); but stray from this combination even slightly, and the iMac becomes unsuitable. (If you're going to need an array of drives, or multiple monitors, or some unique external accessory, you're going to have to have multiple objects on your desk. At which point, your system is no longer "All In One", which kind of negates the entire point of the iMac.) And the Pro is way too much machine (at way too much cost) for most mere mortals.

I think Apple could revolutionize the PC tower market, just as they have other sectors. I think they could make money doing it, too...
 
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I think Apple could revolutionize the PC tower market, just as they have other sectors. I think they could make money doing it, too...
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How exactly is bringing back an expandable tower PC going to revolutionize anything? It's old news. Very few consumers (the market Apple sells to and cares about) buy desktop towers anymore. The companies who make them target them toward enterprise and high end gaming almost exclusively.

I'm certain Apple understands the consumer PC market better than we do. If they thought there was a sizable market to sell a tower to they would make it.
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Cape Dave said:
And each one of us on here represents at least 1000 more who feel the same but do not spend their time on forums. And yet they WOULD spend their time at an Apple store and buy one of the new beasts we hope for.
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I seriously doubt that. the overwhelming majority of Mac users want a computer to use for Facebook, iTunes, web browsing, and photos. They just don't care about a big expandable tower. They want sleek, sexy, and simple.
 
brendu said:
How exactly is bringing back an expandable tower PC going to revolutionize anything?
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Dunno. For some reason, Apple created a device that plays downloaded music. Wasn't anything new about that. They created a smartphone -- talk about old news! Apple was decades behind everybody else when they released the iPhone. And they produced a SFF PC when nobody, and I mean nobody, was buying them.

I, for one, could imagine folks being interested in having a powerful, expandable PC again, if someone did the work to simplify the device. <cough>Avalon</cough>
 
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brendu said:
How exactly is bringing back an expandable tower PC going to revolutionize anything? It's old news. Very few consumers (the market Apple sells to and cares about) buy desktop towers anymore. The companies who make them target them toward enterprise and high end gaming almost exclusively.

I'm certain Apple understands the consumer PC market better than we do. If they thought there was a sizable market to sell a tower to they would make it.
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I seriously doubt that. the overwhelming majority of Mac users want a computer to use for Facebook, iTunes, web browsing, and photos. They just don't care about a big expandable tower. They want sleek, sexy, and simple.
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By beast, I meant a souped up Mac mini with USB C, 4 core, etc. No tower here ever.
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jpietrzak8 said:
Dunno. For some reason, Apple created a device that plays downloaded music. Wasn't anything new about that. They created a smartphone -- talk about old news! Apple was decades behind everybody else when they released the iPhone. And they produced a SFF PC when nobody, and I mean nobody, was buying them.

I, for one, could imagine folks being interested in having a powerful, expandable PC again, if someone did the work to simplify the device. <cough>Avalon</cough>
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Everything old is new again. Bring back Disco! People were out having fun, not staring at a teeny tiny screen.
 
Cape Dave said:
By beast, I meant a souped up Mac mini with USB C, 4 core, etc. No tower here ever.
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I see, yes if they make a serious Mac mini (see skull canyon NUC kind of power) I'll be first in line. I want a quad core i7 with SSD and minimum 16gb ram (32 would be better) because I keep my macs for around 8 years.
 
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