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My Hackintosh and Sierra REALLY don't go well together, but neither does my rMBP, so I am happy to stay on El Cap and inform y'all that except having to wait up to two days (SHOCK) for NVidia drivers all is fine.


Yes. But how large is that roadmap? Do we measure distance in meters or miles?

Measured in decades.

Apple Speak: The next Mac Mini and Mac Pro will be so advanced it'll take our competition decades to match their specifications.

English Translation: The new Macs are planned to be released 50 years from now. They will be more advanced than any computer on the market today.

End User Translation: I pressed the power button and nothing happened.
 
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I would love to hear the rationalisation behind the idea that Apple seem to be forcing about personal computing being dead and iPads about to replace everything. Because the dropping sales of tablets definitely do not suggest that at all. Siri may be amusing to some – personally I used it twice when installing Sierra for the first time, then lost interest, my husband only starts it up by accident – but iPads still have virtual, or even physical keyboards. iPad Pro with external keyboard looks to me like someone took pity on the poor people who have to tap on glass and made them a fake keyboard so they can pretend they have an actual laptop. (Is it very comfortable to use the Pencil WHILE keyboard is attached?)

If anything, I can imagine smartphones replacing everything. Bring your own keyboard, mouse/trackpad and screen, cast phone screen to large display (once CPU/GPUs become strong enough, which should really be soon, you can imagine an iPhone 9 connected to a LG 5K display), make iOS a bit less dumb. Desktops = eliminated, Mini first. Turn iPad Pro into a proper hybrid, keeping the Pencil and allowing it to be used exactly as laptops are used now, with iOS and macOS merged. Laptops = eliminated. But Apple insist on NOT making a hybrid and NOT adding file system (or, um, less space between icons on a 12"+ screen of iPad Pro). So how does this work exactly? I know "Pro" is a misleading word because you can argue that a fashion blogger's Pro tool is an iPhone she uses to take selfies, but how exactly IS iPad Pro a Pro machine in ways that a Mini or iPad Air isn't?

I am on a rMBP 2015 right now. 128 GB SSD, 128 GB USB stick, 128 GB SD card. Beautiful 13" screen. Great keyboard. How am I supposed to replace that with an iPad? (Answer is "very uncomfortably and expensively", I know.) When I am at my desk, I connect the charger and HDMI cable and basically turn the MBP into a Mac Mini. (Second USB I have is used by receiver for Microsoft Sculpt keyboard.) Not only can't I replace this with an iPad, I also can't replace it with iPhone (for clear reasons) or iMac/Mac Pro which are everything but portable. I have friends who use Windows because of price range and love clicking .exe attachments in emails. A lot of their problems would be solved by, you guessed it, a Mac Mini. They have keyboards, mice and screens already. But they would notice if they switched their €500 machine with 16 GB of RAM and an SSD to a €569 one with 4 GB and a spinner. Then they'd ask me if those virus things are really so bad.

Hang onto that machine!
 
Have you all see the latest post on the front page of this site? Too little too late? Discuss amongst yourselves.
I am still waiting, however "we have great new desktops in our road map" does not necessarily include mac mini's, and even then, will they be quad cores? They could simply release mac pro's and iMacs... I sure hope that there is a mac mini coming, but I have hoped that for a few years.
 
"we have great new desktops in our road map" does not necessarily include mac mini's

I agree and don't think this should give anyone much hope for a new Mini. The Techcrunch article that story was based on never mentions the Mini.

https://techcrunch.com/2016/12/19/a...o-the-mac-and-that-great-desktops-are-coming/

"So no matter how you feel about the state of the Mac at the moment, you have new machines to look forward to. No mention of whether that meant iMac or Mac Pro or both"

And Tim Cook rambles on about the beautiful iMac 5k display and all the innovation resulting from the Apple Watch. Sounds like the Mini is no longer on anybody's radar. And why should it be after the lame 2014 "update"?
 
meaningless without publishing the map ... which would, of course, reveal truth and lies - so we'll never see it ... if it's like their profit map we won't be able to refer to the new boxes as true desktops.

Interesting that as Apple's profit margin increases - long-term value for the end-user decreases - so the longer we adhere to this ecosystem the more apparent are our losses. At some point being "smart" says you have to jump ship and that time is fast approaching.

If the next refresh lacks a viable path over a 5-7 year span I'll let my setup advance to legacy and move over to .... I just can't say it yet.
 
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Perhaps Cook will resurrect the Performa line?

Hey, I had a few of those in my family and several more at work. They were actually very powerful boxes and reasonably priced… much like the Mini later became (pre-2014). I especially liked the Performa 475 and LC 475 "pizza box" machines that were the same as the Quadra 605 - a very respectable machine in its day. I used one as an AppleShare server at work. http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/mac_performa/specs/mac_performa_475.html

The 6360 was another nice workhorse back then. I was running a version of unix on one of these for awhile (it actually ran under Mac OS System 9). It was our company's e-mail and webserver, using a blazing fast leased 64k line to PSINet! :D http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/mac_performa/specs/mac_performa_6360_160.html

I think a lot of us would be pretty happy today with a Mini that was positioned in the same niche that the LC and Performa series occupied "back in the day".
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meaningless without publishing the map ...

Sounding more and more like the Mini is not on the map… https://www.macrumors.com/2016/12/20/usb-c-imac-touch-bar-magic-keyboard/

Apple is preparing modest updates to its Mac lineup for next year, including new iMac models with USB-C ports and new AMD graphics chips, and "minor bumps" in processing power for 12-inch MacBook and MacBook Promodels, according to Bloomberg.
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The fate of the Mac Pro and Mac mini is less clear.
 
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Apple is preparing modest updates to its Mac lineup for next year, including new iMac models with USB-C ports and new AMD graphics chips

Gave may hack a Christmas present today. Upgraded to AMD graphics and already had USB-C on the MB. Windows side has the rocking Nvidia GTX 1070 tho.

Nice to be able to beat Apple at their own game for a lot less money.
 
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I am still waiting, however "we have great new desktops in our road map" does not necessarily include mac mini's, and even then, will they be quad cores? They could simply release mac pro's and iMacs... I sure hope that there is a mac mini coming, but I have hoped that for a few years.

I would be perfectly happy (ecstatic really) if the next mini was the 2016 Macbook without a screen. Just give me 8 GB of RAM and an SSD as standard options and I couldn't care less what CPU they use.
[doublepost=1482300483][/doublepost]And let's be honest with ourselves. We have been waiting for a new Mac Mini since October of 2012.
 
How do you find it as a desktop replacement?
It's good. I thought I'd need a dock but I don't actually. I connect the charger (I have an extra one) + HDMI cable, laptop closed, done. HDMI transmits sound to the monitor, which is connected to a speaker system. I actually sometimes forget I am not on my Big Hac and I get confused about why I am missing certain files or programs ;)

The only problem is that I use Microsoft Sculpt keyboard and that requires a tiny USB receiver. My other USB is occupied by a 128 GB tiny USB stick. So in order to use anything else with USB I need to disconnect the stick. My Time Machine backups are done to a microSD card (I want to move to wireless but need some spare money first). Also I have remapped some keys on Macbook keyboard which makes two Sculpt keys not function properly, which is solved easily by clicking on the Karabiner icon and switching layouts.

I am impressed by how easily MBP handles changing resolution from its native to 2560x1440. Full screen windows generally remain full screen. One exception is Chrome which requires a few clicks to adjust. And it's super comfortable to disconnect the rMBP from those two cables and move to the sofa and have everything exactly as it was a minute ago. I wish I came up with this idea earlier!
 
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The Verge has an article pretty much saying what everybody else is.

Well I don't really go along with that. In a way, I feel kind of the opposite… why do we need a new version of MacOS every year? Do they even have time to fix the bugs in each version? I just want a stable and fast operating system where all my expensive software doesn't become obsolete every couple years.

Looking back over recent years, the notification manager and iMessage are probably the only new features that I find useful. And it's funny that "legacy" has such a negative connotation when it comes to computers. In the real world, it is something valuable to be honored; something that others who are less fortunate would envy.
 
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