Is it possible they are developing monster power ARM chips to replace intel's? Apple always differentiates itself from the competition but now they are almost blending in the crowd. Best vision for apple could be in my view to develop its own chips to go hand-by-hand with all wearables, idevices and macs. That could return apple to the good old days having its exclusive environment.
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The new Mac mini is almost certainly coming
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I see that most all your 14 posts are of the same dumb statement above. Nothing to contribute fella ?
I see that most all your 14 posts are of the same dumb statement above. Nothing to contribute fella ?
We gotta hit that 2000-post mark for this thread one way or another
We gotta hit that 2000-post mark for this thread one way or another
Shoot, by the time Apple gets around to either introducing a new mini or cancelling the model completely this thread might reach 4,000 posts!
I see that most all your 14 posts are of the same dumb statement above. Nothing to contribute fella ?
Don't you get that this thread is a whole joke?
4000? well, maybe, but that does not mean it can't reach 2000 first......
now this is precisely how this thread make sense....
Revealing the whole picture.
I see nothing particularly constructive about your slightly demeaning couple of posts this thread.
You take it, and yourself a little too seriously, but most here would welcome your contribution anyway.
Now, as it is Tuesday where I'm at, and no new Mini has been announced, yet, it seems a suitably frivolous moment to reveal the whole picture, as promised last week.
Love those that predict something coming from Apple (Specially those that work as a Apple reseller), and now 5 months later, still no Mini. Goodness OP, hope you learned your lesson not to predict anything.
I see that most all your 14 posts are of the same dumb statement above. Nothing to contribute fella ?
I see nothing particularly constructive about your slightly demeaning couple of posts this thread.
You take it, and yourself a little too seriously, but most here would welcome your contribution anyway.
Now, as it is Tuesday where I'm at, and no new Mini has been announced, yet, it seems a suitably frivolous moment to reveal the whole picture, as promised last week.
You say that, but now curiosity is killing my over-sized fuschia creepy demonic king cat.
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It was constructive that I posted. Some of you are just plain silly about this update garbage that keeps this thread alive. Nothing better to do ? Get a life
Another Tuesday is drawing to a close where I am at, and it has been a quiet one. Purrrrhaps it is an expectant lull before next Tuesday.
Then this came that, if nothing else, does add to the thread count:
Unless of course it gets deleted. I have had a post removed and been chided after using the words in bold, which were deemed to be unbecoming.
Then this came that, if nothing else, does add to the thread count:
Unless of course it gets deleted. I have had a post removed and been chided after using the words in bold, which were deemed to be unbecoming.
Since when? Intel sold their ARM chip business long ago. If arm waving about Intel fabricating the Altera SoC ( http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/10/30/intel-to-start-manufacturing-third-party-arm-chips-in-2014 ) then deeply misunderstand what market the Altera chips are sold into. Those are not "inexpensive desktop/laptop/tablet CPU" chips. They are actually very expensive embedded systems CPU chips. There also may be some ARM cores buried/embedded in some other Intel products ( network and/or support chips) but not core system SoC.
Sure Intel makes those because they do not compete with the vast majority of Intel's product line at all.
The "ARM like" solution that Intel sells is various products in the ATOM line up. For example the Z3700 product line.
http://www.cpu-world.com/news_2014/2014051001_Intel_refreshes_Atom_Z3700_lineup.html
If Apple wanted $20-50 priced CPUs, then Intel already sells them. No chip architecture change is needed at all. The notion that Intel only sell expensive CPUs is just as flawed as the notion all Xeon CPUs are $600 and much higher priced. Not.
Apple could come out with a Mac Micro (or Mac extra Mini ) anytime they wished. The Z3700 has same HD GPU just clocked far down than the earlier chips had. A slower but hundreds less ( as Apple chops off the other stuff the ATOM or A7-A8 don't support) system is entirely doable with no OS X changes at all except to match up to the specific chipset and x86 features present.
It isn't all that hard to agree on price when Intel is making the product for multiple customers already.
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May I suggest skipping this thread?
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Some news about the nextTV would also be nice.
Absolutely
You are completely wrong, it will be at least 80,000.
Meh, you'll see a ARM Mini next Tuesday unfortunately .
That would widen the gap between the mini and the nMP even further and for those of us who don't want an iMac it would be a turn off. Unless the fabled x-mac is released I don't think it would make any sense to release an ARM-based mini.
Unfortunately, you could be right. There's a revamp slated for OS X and Apple plans on using ARM chips in certain Macs at least that's what the MR is hinting. There's also another rumor that Apple plans to release a flatter looking OS X and bring over some elements from iOS.
So there are some possible connections there. Also if i'm not mistaken the CPU/GPU in the current Mini's are essentially laptop parts. Hey if it's priced right and performs well, i'll definitely give it a look.
Unfortunately, you could be right. There's a revamp slated for OS X and Apple plans on using ARM chips in certain Macs at least that's what the MR is hinting. There's also another rumor that Apple plans to release a flatter looking OS X and bring over some elements from iOS.
So there are some possible connections there. Also if i'm not mistaken the CPU/GPU in the current Mini's are essentially laptop parts. Hey if it's priced right and performs well, i'll definitely give it a look.
I would say this about Apple. If they do do ARM with OSX I have faith it has been extremely tested for a long time and it will probably kick ass.
All this talk about ARM processors sounds pretty crazy, seeing as they just launched the Intel-based Mac Pro a few months ago.
I can't imagine them switching to ARM processors, with all the existing OS X applications that access hardware directly (music, virtual machines, etc.). VMware, Parallels, or any other Intel-based virtual machine software would suffer on an ARM platform, since it would be total software emulation.
A new, low-priced iMac for emerging markets? I don't get that either. I wish Apple would just dump the whole all-in-one, one-size-fits-all model. Maybe it's just me, but, from the front, I don't see much difference between a 2004 iMac G5 and the current one. It just looks dated. The "elegant" all-in-one is well-suited for folks who can't plug in a monitor, but I think most users are beyond that in this day and age.
Discontinued Mac Mini? I'm out
ARM-based Mac Mini? I'm out
Cheap iMac replaces Mac Mini? I'm out
Beefed up ARM-based Apple TV replaces Mac Mini? I'm out
It's not looking good.
I don't like Windows 8.1 and the Metro interface (yeah, I know you can press the Windows key and exit out of it, but it's still a hassle! And, the dumbed-down search box...it's an abomination). Windows 7 is more familiar than 8, but still not a Mac. Linux is like an erector set...cleaning up dependencies, editing configuration files, compiling applications, searching for drivers, waiting for "open source" fixes, constantly researching problems, etc.
I guess we'll just have to see what Apple comes out with (or doesn't).
I can't imagine them switching to ARM processors, with all the existing OS X applications that access hardware directly (music, virtual machines, etc.). VMware, Parallels, or any other Intel-based virtual machine software would suffer on an ARM platform, since it would be total software emulation.
A new, low-priced iMac for emerging markets? I don't get that either. I wish Apple would just dump the whole all-in-one, one-size-fits-all model. Maybe it's just me, but, from the front, I don't see much difference between a 2004 iMac G5 and the current one. It just looks dated. The "elegant" all-in-one is well-suited for folks who can't plug in a monitor, but I think most users are beyond that in this day and age.
Discontinued Mac Mini? I'm out
ARM-based Mac Mini? I'm out
Cheap iMac replaces Mac Mini? I'm out
Beefed up ARM-based Apple TV replaces Mac Mini? I'm out
It's not looking good.
I don't like Windows 8.1 and the Metro interface (yeah, I know you can press the Windows key and exit out of it, but it's still a hassle! And, the dumbed-down search box...it's an abomination). Windows 7 is more familiar than 8, but still not a Mac. Linux is like an erector set...cleaning up dependencies, editing configuration files, compiling applications, searching for drivers, waiting for "open source" fixes, constantly researching problems, etc.
I guess we'll just have to see what Apple comes out with (or doesn't).
Exactly! We switched to Mac big-time when Apple went to Intel chips which allowed me to get rid of all our Windows PCs. I still need Windows for some things on a daily basis.
Apple went to Intel for performance reasons, IBM could not offer faster PowerPC chips. The threat to change to ARM would be for power consumption reasons, but Intel seems to have solved that, and the desktop Macs don't need to reduce power.
Apple for years had a low-priced educational model of the iMac. They don't at the moment. This would bring one back. Considering a desktop computer as an appliance, an all-in-one makes plenty of sense. Plug in the power cord and you are done setting it up.
"It" being the rumor mill. Apple has said nothing. If Apple were to go ARM that would force me to go back to Windows.
On course you have contributed what you consider to be well considered pearls of wisdom, as has everyone else.
Regardless of how valuable others consider each of those pearls may be, in all their varied glory, each and every one can be considered a valued contribution to the thread albeit not always to the discussion.
I would think that if Apple would try the ARM on low end hardware first and they would still have Intel processors in the regular Macs.
The move to all ARM would be foolish IMO.