Including Gurman who just tweeted that it is 'ready to go'. Maybe we will be seeing it tomorrow!
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The new Mac mini is almost certainly coming
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Maybe tomorrow, maybe not.
Whatever, the new Mac Mini is almost certainly coming.....
I hope there will be a higher end Mac mini but it may be that the studio takes its place. That means the price will probably be way higher than just for a higher end mac mini that replaces the intel mac minis. People were theorizing like $1299 for the M1 Pro base config Mac Mini with 16 GB RAM but now a Mac Studio will probably be much more expensive.
Apple prices mainly on SKU categories (price brackets) and specs. The enclosure shouldn't add much cost at all to the cost. Assuming it comes with an M1 Pro chip at the base, I wouldn't expect anything more than $1,799 for the base model.
That’s still a lot more than the base intel mac mini’s that we thought would be replaced. I have a feeling we won’t see higher specced mac minis and just this new mac studio .
I dont think it will be this price (I pulled this price because its the cost of the maxed specc'ed mac mini). I personally think it will be closer to $1,299
Base model M1 Pro (8/14, 16,512, Gigabit Ethernet) should be $1499, a little markup because of the taller chassis & because of general Apple Tax bull...
I would rather see a $1399 base model...!
Very interested to see the cooling solution for the Mac Studio...
Looking at the (rumored) chassis, blower fan(s) might not be best for the volume...
Mobo hangs upside down in the chassis, with heat sink hanging from that, as it has been in Mac minis forever...
180mm axial fan with ducting to both heat sink and bottom intake vents, positive pressure exhaust out the back...
"Wide wale" fat fins visible at rear exhaust port(s), looking all sexy...
Looking at the (rumored) chassis, blower fan(s) might not be best for the volume...
Mobo hangs upside down in the chassis, with heat sink hanging from that, as it has been in Mac minis forever...
180mm axial fan with ducting to both heat sink and bottom intake vents, positive pressure exhaust out the back...
"Wide wale" fat fins visible at rear exhaust port(s), looking all sexy...
I'm still camp $1299 or $1499 with a 10 core CPU (but you already know that because apparently we are following each other from Reddit, lol)
Though I've been disappointed by Apple in pricing a many times before so I shouldn't get my hopes up.
I am wondering if Apple will keep the Mac Studio to a single Ethernet port (Gigabit upgradable to 10Gb), or have dual ports (dual Gigabit upgradable to dual 10Gb) on the dual SoC models...?
They would need three mobo SKUs anyway; M1 Pro, M1 Max, dual M1 Max...
They would need three mobo SKUs anyway; M1 Pro, M1 Max, dual M1 Max...
If prices turn out to be "disappointing" it is only because we look at it from the traditional Mac mini perspective, as far as this thread is concerned. But this will likely become a new product lineup, with the closest Apple relative being the G4 Cube or perhaps some elements from the Trashcan, neither of which ever crossed paths with the mini in terms of pricing or target audience.
I myself will look at the Mac Studio as a "headless MBP" or a "Apple Silicon trashcan that doesn't suck", where I am willing to spend much more than I would on any of the previous minis.
I myself will look at the Mac Studio as a "headless MBP" or a "Apple Silicon trashcan that doesn't suck", where I am willing to spend much more than I would on any of the previous minis.
It will likely only have one LAN port but 10G default like the iMac Pro; I think the Trashcan was the smallest from factor from Apple that ever got dual LANs, and that machine was supposed to be the cMP replacement so they had to put them in. On the Mac Studio maybe the I/O board is going to be crammed for space, also the relative demand of dual port really isn't that big.
TBH I am of the audience that want dual 10G, in fact if possible I want dual SFP+, which is hardly even possible with the larger Mac Pro due to drivers I think.
you would want a separate power supply with ethernet in it or build into the mac studio/mini ?!
still, the starting price of mac studio with single M1 pro/max cannot be as high as the 14" Mbp starting price, thats for sure. For those who think that they can have dual SoC for cheaper price than the starting price of 14" mbp ( $1999) i think they will be disappointed
I dont see the starting price for the mac studio with dual M1 max/64 unified memory/256ssd to be under $1999
With the height of the Mac Studio, plenty of room on the back for ports...
Dual Ethernet allows one for NAS, one for network/internet...?
Internal PSU for Mac Studio please, none of this silly external brick crap...
I am hopeful that the base config will be really reasonable, without the built-in display like the iMac not only the cost of the components but also assembly difficulty and QA lemon rates are going to be so low. Also unlike the Intel Space Gray minis, there is no Intel tax here. It is defo going to cost significantly less than the base 14", especially if they are the same binned M1 Pro.
Then for the higher configs, particularly with the dual SoC if that really happens, there really is no comparison available since this kind of product almost never existed from Apple. Should it be priced like a headless iMac Pro, or a scaled down Mac Pro? There will be so much less modularity than the Mac Pro but at the same time so much raw performance relative to any Intel Macs. And then as a stop gap before the 2023 AS Mac Pro this machine will probably be a temporary workstation where decked out configs with absurd BTO prices will actually be acceptable for money making users. Just like the $1000 XDR stand, Apple will charge that if they think they can.
you really think the cheapest dual M1 will be $3399 ?
i guess dual M1 pro is out of the question
around 11 more hours to go
Dual LANs have variety of uses, for a single user terminal ala desktop / workstation it is typically aggregated to a switch, or as you say one for general internet the other for direct connection to a local server.
If the height does turn out like the renders then yes it ought to have internal PSU and dual LANs. But I myself think it should be slightly shorter and fatter, to fit into a 2U half-width rack space.
For rack use it is quite disappointing to be this "boxy". Normally for smaller network cabinet like small office branch or homelabs, only when internal 3.5" HDDs are involved then you get an enclosure to 3-4U.
There are HP /Dell / Lenovo small form factor PCs that specifically always measure similar to 1U and 2U just because of this. But then of course Apple does whatever it thinks the target audience will want from this Mac. In fact for rack use the Mac Studio maybe overkill, that role should be reserved for the smaller mini which never changes its sub-1U footprint.
In twelve hours time it'll all be over and we'll all know what's coming and what isn't , but having watched Luke Miani's video I'm partly deflated because I'm pretty sure this thing is going to be way over my price point. I wanted something M1-Pro or M1-Max class, but that huge chassis looks big enough to run something way over-specified for my needs with no doubt the price-tag to match. Here's hoping they make a 'more accessible' configuration for prosumers like me who would like something beefier than a stock M1 but don't need to spend magabucks on some quadra M1-Max beast that will plait porridge.
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depends what you need...i can see this mac studio to start from around $1099 with M1 pro all the way up to $3999 or even $4999?! with dual M1 max and 8T ssd
So it depends what you need...if M1 pro is enough you will face a price point around $1099 plus the ssd options
Historically, there is usually a "redesign tax". I'd be disappointed if its more than £200 above the Intel version, but I'll make the call when I see the specs. Dual ethernet would be lovely assuming LACP is possible, I don't have 10G stuff at home, so dual 1gb would be great.