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Corefile

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Knowing Apple, and current UK pricing (£849 for the 8GB/512GB), that seems pretty punchy. Granted, they would knock at least £50 off anyway due to exchange rate improvements. The M2 version of that spec is £1,050. I would be amazed if they chopped £250 off that.
A $599 Mini costs 649 quid so if you do the exchange rate then add 20% then Apple is rounding up to the next 50 pound increment. They've some headroom but not much.
 

Fomalhaut

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16Gb vs 18Gb looks like a typo for the uninformed, but a 24Gb start price for M4 Pro will almost certainly mean a price increase of $100/£100 - if people were wavering over whether or not 16Gb was enough then 24Gb would certainly be fine for them. At least it will raise the average selling price of the Mini (combined with a potential 16Gb starting SKU for the M4).

If Apple only offered a 36Gb upgrade SKU for the M4 Pro (from 24Gb) it might cost another $200/£200 - but how many people would take them up? Would those people be looking for a 48Gb upgrade (at a cost of $400/£400)?

I think there would quite a lot of takers for an M4 Pro with 36GB, which is enough to satisfy many users who need more RAM than CPU power and who don't want to be forced to wait and pay more a Mac Studio. I would guess that most users who want 48GB RAM also want more CPU and GPU cores and would be looking at the Studio anyway.

Starting at 24GB RAM would hopefully mean only a $200 increase to upgrade to 36GB, whereas the M2 Pro required $400 to go from 16GB -> 32GB.

I hope Apple doesn't create the same artificial boundaries as per the M3 Max which has a massive jump from 36GB (for the binned SoC) to 96GB for an extra $800. People who buy a binned M3 Max probably want options for 36GB, 48GB, and 64GB. I am assuming that the binned M3 Max uses only 3 of the 4 RAM modules which is why we get 36GB (3 x 12GB) and 96GB (3 x 32GB). I could understand why there is no 64GB (not easily divisible by 3), but I don't see why they didn't offer a 48GB (3 x 16GB). The only reason is to push buyers to the unbinned M3 Max and have to pay an extra $500, even if all they wanted is an extra 12GB of RAM for $200.

I shall not be happy if the M4 Pro options are 24GB or 48GB for an extra $400.
 

iamthedudeman

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I think there would quite a lot of takers for an M4 Pro with 36GB, which is enough to satisfy many users who need more RAM than CPU power and who don't want to be forced to wait and pay more a Mac Studio. I would guess that most users who want 48GB RAM also want more CPU and GPU cores and would be looking at the Studio anyway.

Starting at 24GB RAM would hopefully mean only a $200 increase to upgrade to 36GB, whereas the M2 Pro required $400 to go from 16GB -> 32GB.

I hope Apple doesn't create the same artificial boundaries as per the M3 Max which has a massive jump from 36GB (for the binned SoC) to 96GB for an extra $800. People who buy a binned M3 Max probably want options for 36GB, 48GB, and 64GB. I am assuming that the binned M3 Max uses only 3 of the 4 RAM modules which is why we get 36GB (3 x 12GB) and 96GB (3 x 32GB). I could understand why there is no 64GB (not easily divisible by 3), but I don't see why they didn't offer a 48GB (3 x 16GB). The only reason is to push buyers to the unbinned M3 Max and have to pay an extra $500, even if all they wanted is an extra 12GB of RAM for $200.

I shall not be happy if the M4 Pro options are 24GB or 48GB for an extra $400.
If the mini M4 comes with 16gb and 512gb for the base model, thats enough for 99 percent of users. Just add your own ssd and you are good to go. 16gb is plenty for most people. Plus you can upgrade more often. If the price stays $599 that is the biggest bargain in the Mac lineup. Even at $799 still a good deal. I think it will be $699 even better. You can upgrade everytime they update it for that price and just use your existing external ssd. You can get $300 for your old one and the cost of a new one will be just $300.

Sounds like a bargain to me.
 
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Fishrrman

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All this speculation about pricing...
The new Mini will cost what it will cost.
And those who want one, will pay what they have to pay.
(nothing follows...)
 
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Phonzoxd

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If the mini M4 comes with 16gb and 512gb for the base model, thats enough for 99 percent of users. Just add your own ssd and you are good to go. 16gb is plenty for most people. Plus you can upgrade more often. If the price stays $599 that is the biggest bargain in the Mac lineup. Even at $799 still a good deal. I think it will be $699 even better. You can upgrade everytime they update it for that price and just use your existing external ssd. You can get $300 for your old one and the cost of a new one will be just $300.

Sounds like a bargain to me.
you are absolutely right. a 16gb 512gb mini for 800 and im buying it. Can upgrade more often.

If i wait for the next Studio say mid 2025, i likely will hold onto it for 6-8years.
 

colinsky

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I paid the Apple tax to get 32gb memory in my m2 Mini Pro. It made a huge difference in my work compared to the 16gb m1 Mini it replaced and it still seems fast. I don't foresee updating to the m4 unless there's some magical new AI capability that I haven't heard about yet.
 

EugW

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I paid the Apple tax to get 32gb memory in my m2 Mini Pro. It made a huge difference in my work compared to the 16gb m1 Mini it replaced and it still seems fast. I don't foresee updating to the m4 unless there's some magical new AI capability that I haven't heard about yet.
How did it make a difference? Just curious what your software is and where the memory helps.

Also, did you consider going with the Mac Studio? I see the base Mac Studio is US$1999 and the 32 GB Mac mini M2 Pro is $1699, so there is still a $300 difference. (I don't really care about the 10 GigE.)

Personally, I'd like to get a 24 / 512 GB M4 non-Pro for say US$1099, but sadly it will likely be short on ports. If the base M4 Pro came with 24 GB RAM for say $1399, that'd be an awesome option.

I'm currently running a 16 GB / 1 TB M1 mini, but I got the 1 TB model just because it happened to be relatively cheap, at CA$1099 / ~US$825 on eBay back in 2022.

Truthfully the 16 GB is fine for my actual work, but I wonder if going to 24 GB would help with my non-work stuff, specifically Apple Photos' speed and reliability.
 
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That's a downer. Apple events are fun, but I would be fine with a press release. What I hope doesn't happen is that they delay the new Mac mini until next year, perhaps when the Mac Book Pro's are redesigned. So I hope there is some other surprise and that there is an event this month. But long time participants in The New Mac Mini is Almost Certainly Coming discussions are very familiar with frustration, so fingers crossed.
 
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