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Cape Dave

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Yes, but the big news is that there was no price increase to support 16gb base memory. We can now expect the same for the M4 Mini. All we will need to know now is how small it is and what base memory will be configured for Pro version.
All I want to know is.... Is it fast? Is it silent? And maybe which ports :)
 

gusping

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so it looks ram goes 16-24-32, which means mini will be 16 and mini pro 24? also likely to have WIFI6E and TB4

also same price on imac is good news!
The iMac is +£100 here in the UK despsite the £ being much stronger than when the M3 iMac was introduced, so it’s effectively a £150-200 price increase. Thank, Apple. Forever screwing over us Europeans.

My excitement for the M4 mini has reduced significantly. At least the 9800X3D and RTX 5090 aren’t far away ;)
 

Corefile

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So looks like M4 mini base is going to be 16/256 with 8c CPU and GPU with two TB ports, and likely two more USB-C ports at the front?
Did anybody else notice that the 8 core version is 4/4 and the 10 core is 4/6 for P/E? That just seems rather bizarre. Another thing makes me wonder if the new Mini M4 base model will have only 2 USB-C ports only and be wifi only. That appears to be how the new iMac is and if you compare Apples to Apples...
 

gusping

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Did anybody else notice that the 8 core version is 4/4 and the 10 core is 4/6 for P/E? That just seems rather bizarre. Another thing makes me wonder if the new Mini M4 base model will have only 2 USB-C ports only and be wifi only. That appears to be how the new iMac is and if you compare Apples to Apples...
Imagine wifi only on a desktop computer. I don’t think any company would do that aside from Apple, so… good chance it will happen. They will remove the 3.5mm port soon as well, just you wait.
 

Corefile

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The iMac is +£100 here in the UK despsite the £ being much stronger than when the M3 iMac was introduced, so it’s effectively a £150-200 price increase. Thank, Apple. Forever screwing over us Europeans.
That's more a right of passage for Brits given Rip off Britain is still a thing.
 
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Cape Dave

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Did anybody else notice that the 8 core version is 4/4 and the 10 core is 4/6 for P/E? That just seems rather bizarre. Another thing makes me wonder if the new Mini M4 base model will have only 2 USB-C ports only and be wifi only. That appears to be how the new iMac is and if you compare Apples to Apples...
That would SUCK! I gotta have my ethernet!
 
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Chuckeee

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Yes, but the big news is that there was no price increase to support 16gb base memory. We can now expect the same for the M4 Mini. All we will need to know now is how small it is and what base memory will be configured for Pro version.
Hope you are right. But the mini update also consists of a very visible design update and there might still be the possibility that Apple could use that to justify a price increase.
 
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sublunar

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The iMac is +£100 here in the UK despsite the £ being much stronger than when the M3 iMac was introduced, so it’s effectively a £150-200 price increase. Thank, Apple. Forever screwing over us Europeans.

My excitement for the M4 mini has reduced significantly. At least the 9800X3D and RTX 5090 aren’t far away ;)
Hasn't the price actually come down by £100 per SKU? Here's the original M3 iMac review from Tech Radar last year that shows the 3 SKUs as £1399, £1599, and £1799? Remember that third party retailers may have been given permission to reduce prices since (Argos show an M3 with 8 core GPU for £1399). The M1 lingered for £1249 when the M3 was current but this has been replaced by a binned M4 as the base model.

The pre-order specs for the M4 iMac shows the 3 SKUs priced at £1299, £1499, and £1699 (with a 24Gb top SKU sporting 24Gb RAM for £1899).

And for that you obviously get M4 across the board and 16Gb RAM in the base 3 SKUs. If you pick an unbinned model you get the 4 thunderbolt ports (M3 model only got 2 Thunderbolt ports plus 2 USB-C)

The port setup will be interesting when we get to see the Mini though - to see how the specs coincide when mapped onto likely mini skus. Remember the mini m1 and m2 never got binned chips whereas the iMac 24 did.

If the iMac gets a choice of 2 or 4 thunderbolt ports. How does that map onto the rumoured 3 or 5 usb-c ports for a mini? Potentially the loss of 2 usb-a ports might be mapped onto 1 merged usb-c port with a combined 10mb/s bandwidth?

And if we're about to get a binned M4 with 3 USB-C ports could UK users be about to get an even cheaper starting price?

But the mini update also consists of a very visible design update and there might still be the possibility that Apple could use that to justify a price increase.

Could even get rebadged and called a Mac Nano - at which point all bets are off because Apple would not be comparing with previous generation any more.

Having said that, smaller packaging could be there to reduce cost of materials and maybe shipping (unless they're going for a heavier heat sink)

A totally new Mac could also hand wave away any perceived reduction in ports or bandwidth over the M2 Mini - the 3 or 5 USB-C ports option suggests that Apple could be maintaining a low starting price by using binned chips for the first time in the Mini (or for the first time in the Nano).

16Gb of RAM for the price of 8Gb (on top of a price cut in the UK) is encouraging but let's see how the MacBook Pros get priced up if they are indeed coming tomorrow.
 

karatekidk

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On a personal note, I believe I started following this thread in 2013 when I had one of those polycarbonate Intel mini. It was replaced with that popular late 2012 i7, and now M1. Feeling a bit nostalgic.

Can't wait for the new M4 tomorrow!
 
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metanoiaway

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we have an amazon leak in the building
 

kent5

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If the above is indeed accurate, the new M4 Mac Mini FAR outspecs the new M4 iMac???

Mini apparently has (potentially):
-More RAM than iMac
-More storage than iMac
-More cores than iMac

Can that be right???
 
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Chancha

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If the images for the mini and the Studio are in-scale in that screenshot, then the dimensions are:

33 x 15 pixels vs 51 x 27 pixels

that translates into

127 x 53 mm vs 197 x 95 mm

Not quite Apple TV size yet but close. Also height is higher than 1U rack, kind of bad news I guess. Wonder how the M4 Pro can cool itself inside of that chassis, 53mm is not much room for stacked fan + heatsink.
 
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