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The new Mac mini is almost certainly coming

Interesting news re: Broadwell being delayed till 2015.

It could be we do see a mini refresh sooner as a result. Haswell Mini Q3/4 2014 and a Broadwell update 2015 Q3/4 after the MBA/rMBP/iMac.

Downside is that if there is no Haswell Mini we won't see a refresh till late 2015 :(
 
Jambalaya said:
Downside is that if there is no Haswell Mini we won't see a refresh till late 2015 :(
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I'd hope that prospect -- no Mac mini refresh for three years -- is ugly enough for Apple to do the sensible thing and release a Haswell mini soon.

Preferably today, free, and in my mail slot. It could happen, you know.
 
Jambalaya said:
Interesting news re: Broadwell being delayed till 2015.

It could be we do see a mini refresh sooner as a result. Haswell Mini Q3/4 2014 and a Broadwell update 2015 Q3/4 after the MBA/rMBP/iMac.

Downside is that if there is no Haswell Mini we won't see a refresh till late 2015 :(
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I am tending to agree with you.

With Broadwell so far away the Mini may get a Hasswell with the present enclosure and if there is a new enclosure design get Broadwell or Skylake in couple of years.
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The problem with Haswell is that the Iris Pro chips are so expensive they may not be offered for the Mini.
 
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Crosscreek said:
We may not see Mac's with Broadwell until 2015 according to the following article.
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Yeah this is pretty bad news for the Mac Mini; it'll only be early 2015 if they're going to use Macbook Air type parts, anything more serious (which I'd hope they'd be using) will be July.

It's going to make it pretty hard to justify waiting any longer, I'll maybe stick it out till near the end of the year, but if there's still no news I may be forced to go hackintosh to replace my old Mac Pro. It's really annoying though, as the current mini is almost good enough to replace it, except for the GPU. That and I really don't like the idea of paying so much for an increasingly outdated processor; if Apple would actually cut the price or switch to the recent Haswell chips I'd buy one in an instant, it's not as if pushing out a minor update in the current case would take much effort on their part.
 
I still believe new Mac mini is around the corner.

Why?

1.) APPLE surely knows about the BROADWELL delay since a long time ago.
2.) Mac Pro demand is now slowing down. everyone who wanted one, bought one. those who didn't buy, want a new mini!
3.) back to school doesn't affect the Mac mini (it is not included)
4.) amazon.de is still not listing the current mini (since 2 or 3 months). only third party resellers.

conclusion:
new Mac mini (haswell with iris, hopefully iris pro) will arrive in July or August. maybe old design.
 
apfelmann said:
I still believe new Mac mini is around the corner.

Why?

1.) APPLE surely knows about the BROADWELL delay since a long time ago.
2.) Mac Pro demand is now slowing down. everyone who wanted one, bought one. those who didn't buy, want a new mini!
3.) back to school doesn't affect the Mac mini (it is not included)
4.) amazon.de is still not listing the current mini (since 2 or 3 months). only third party resellers.

conclusion:
new Mac mini (haswell with iris, hopefully iris pro) will arrive in July or August. maybe old design.
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while I will get a haswell mini.

the truth is i do not need one. it won't be much of an improvement over the current model. while the quad core 2012 model cpu is a bit old. it is more then enough . I kind of wanted a better gpu a 5000 or a 5100 or a 5200 would be okay
 
Would reallllly love to be able to natively use dual 1440p monitors, but I've been testing one of those USB3 to DP adapters on my hackintosh and I have to say I'm pretty darn impressed. Only difference I can see is when you drag a window or move the mouse around quickly. Then you can see some lag (although on Windows 8 the lag is nearly non-existent).

The big question is how will Yosemite affect the DisplayLink drivers. So for now I will wait until 10.10 releases and I see some people having good luck with the DL drivers before I pull the trigger on the current mini. With Broadwell delays I can definitely see a delay in getting a mini refresh. Additionally there's no evidence yet that we will even see a second TB port on a redesign.
 
apfelmann said:
I still believe new Mac mini is around the corner.

Why?

1.) APPLE surely knows about the BROADWELL delay since a long time ago.
2.) Mac Pro demand is now slowing down. everyone who wanted one, bought one. those who didn't buy, want a new mini!
3.) back to school doesn't affect the Mac mini (it is not included)
4.) amazon.de is still not listing the current mini (since 2 or 3 months). only third party resellers.

conclusion:
new Mac mini (haswell with iris, hopefully iris pro) will arrive in July or August. maybe old design.
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US Amazon.com has been out of stock too on all Mac Mini models for several weeks. This happened last November and meant absolutely nothing though. However at that time the Mac Mini server was in stock but the base and upgraded Mini were not. Hoping it all means something, more than likely not.
 
docprego said:
US Amazon.com has been out of stock too on all Mac Mini models for several weeks. This happened last November and meant absolutely nothing though. However at that time the Mac Mini server was in stock but the base and upgraded Mini were not. Hoping it all means something, more than likely not.
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since the last 2 months or so amazon.COM also is out of stock of Mac minis. only 1 (!) marketplace reseller still is listed at amazon.com with Mac minis in stock.

This must mean something. amazon is company that always wants to have all products in stock, so I think that Apple just can't deliver anymore because new models are coming soon
 
apfelmann said:
This must mean something. amazon is company that always wants to have all products in stock
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Apple are producing very few Minis as they aren't selling very many ? Hence no stock at retailers.

Plenty of stuff from Amazon is out of stock awaiting delivery.
 
A quick question regarding Haswell vs Broadwell as regards implications for memory capacity.

In its current form the mini has two memory slots for a maximum of 2 x 8GB = 16GB of memory. If the next mini is just a refresh and there's no change to the enclosure then the 2 slot restriction will presumably remain. Would either of the newer processor families allow those slots to be filled with 16GB memory modules to give 32GB?
 
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Serif said:
A quick question regarding Haswell vs Broadwell as regards implications for memory capacity.

In it's current form the mini has two memory slots for a maximum of 2 x 8GB = 16GB of memory. If the next mini is just a refresh and there's no change to the enclosure then the 2 slot restriction will presumably remain. Would either of the newer processor families allow those slots to filled with 16GB memory modules to give 32GB?
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no..16gb limit.
 
Jambalaya said:
Apple are producing very few Minis as they aren't selling very many ? Hence no stock at retailers.

Plenty of stuff from Amazon is out of stock awaiting delivery.
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Where's the evidence?

How do you know that Apple are producing / selling very few Mac Minis?

However many are being produced, it seems they get sold fairly quickly.
 
Crosscreek said:
no..16gb limit.
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Incorrect, Haswell H and M series mobile processors all have a max memory spec of 32 GB per Intel.

The current base processor in the Mini is the i5-3210M so the logical Haswell variant is of course the i5-4210M, specs can be seen here:

http://ark.intel.com/products/81012

Likewise the highest end processor in the current Mini is the same as the 2012 15" base MBP processor, the i7-3720QM. Using the current base 15" MBP's processor, a potential high end Mini could have the i7-4750HQ (or corresponding refresh variant) which also has a memory max of 32 GB.

http://ark.intel.com/products/76087

This is all hypothetical of course, but even if Apple were to skimp out with the i7-4700HQ (HD4600 graphics) it would also support 32 GB.

http://ark.intel.com/products/75116

Event the current Mini processors supports 32 GB

http://ark.intel.com/products/64891/Intel-Core-i7-3720QM-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3_60-GHz?q=3720qm

http://ark.intel.com/products/65708/Intel-Core-i5-3210M-Processor-3M-Cache-up-to-3_10-GHz-BGA

16 GB SODIMMs haven't been available for a long time and are expensive but I'd be interested to see them tested in the current Mini. It would be seriously pointless for Apple to neuter the memory max below Intel spec, especially when 16 GB SODIMMs weren't even close to available 2 years ago.
 
Micky Do said:
Where's the evidence?

How do you know that Apple are producing / selling very few Mac Minis?

However many are being produced, it seems they get sold fairly quickly.
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Likewise...evidence of them selling fairly quickly?
 
kwijbo said:
Incorrect, Haswell H and M series mobile processors all have a max memory spec of 32 GB per Intel.

The current base processor in the Mini is the i5-3210M so the logical Haswell variant is of course the i5-4210M, specs can be seen here:

http://ark.intel.com/products/81012

Likewise the highest end processor in the current Mini is the same as the 2012 15" base MBP processor, the i7-3720QM. Using the current base 15" MBP's processor, a potential high end Mini could have the i7-4750HQ (or corresponding refresh variant) which also has a memory max of 32 GB.

http://ark.intel.com/products/76087

This is all hypothetical of course, but even if Apple were to skimp out with the i7-4700HQ (HD4600 graphics) it would also support 32 GB.

http://ark.intel.com/products/75116

Event the current Mini processors supports 32 GB

http://ark.intel.com/products/64891/Intel-Core-i7-3720QM-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3_60-GHz?q=3720qm

http://ark.intel.com/products/65708/Intel-Core-i5-3210M-Processor-3M-Cache-up-to-3_10-GHz-BGA

16 GB SODIMMs haven't been available for a long time and are expensive but I'd be interested to see them tested in the current Mini. It would be seriously pointless for Apple to neuter the memory max below Intel spec, especially when 16 GB SODIMMs weren't even close to available 2 years ago.
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do you have a link for a 16gb 200 pin stick?

I would buy 1 and put it in a 2012 quad.

my quad has 2 8gb sticks.
 
My 2012 Mac Mini will probably work as my DAW master computer for some time but I hope that Apple will continue to upgrade the Mac Mini or release some type of headless affordable Mac every few years for the "rest of us".

Not everyone wants or can use an Apple all-in-one and the Windows side is looking rather bleak, post Windows 7. Linux is a good alternative OS but very little music software works with it and may never.
 
philipma1957 said:
do you have a link for a 16gb 200 pin stick?

I would buy 1 and put it in a 2012 quad.

my quad has 2 8gb sticks.
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Hmm, I remembered seeing this a while back so I had to search for it.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7742/im-intelligent-memory-to-release-16gb-unregistered-ddr3-modules

This is when they were announced and they do have the part numbers available on their site right now:

http://www.intelligentmemory.com/dram-modules/ddr3-so-dimm/

However I don't see any US distributors on their site??

And after skimming that Anandtech article again theres mention of the 16 GB modules not being compatible with Intel processors. Which makes me wonder, then, how Intel puts on their spec sheet a 32 GB max with 2 channel memory when the processors don't support the 16 GB modules?
 
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