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matrix07

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Jun 24, 2010
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I couldn't stomach the music app in my 6-hour testdrive of the iOS 10 beta. I had great hopes for Apple Music in particular and was looking forward to some substantial improvements to the service and the music app too.

The new design looks completely out of place and cramped, despite the fact that I was using it on an iPhone 6. The supersize components make it look very busy, as if you never have a complete overview of where you are. I have the exact same feeling when I'm zooming in on a desktop-sized website in Safari. I have this urge to zoom out or pan around and it drove me crazy. I also found the changes to Apple Music superficial at best. They do not address any problems I currently have with Apple Music, like the fact that all playlists are sorted alphabetically, that you cannot create folders or that you cannot rename or edit Apple Music playlists. It also annoys me that they once again remove the separate playlists button from the tab bar. The browse section in Apple Music is even more cluttered than before, even though they solved that exact problem many years ago in the iTunes app. The music app is pure change for change's sake to me and it alienates me even further.

I will be discontinuing my subscription and consider using Deezer or moving back to plain-old music downloads with one of the third-party apps mentioned here. I am really disappointed with the state of Apple software design, it is not what it used to be and I am finding more comfort in third-party apps nowadays. Unfortunately, I cannot avoid the terrible changes to the lock screen and notification centre either.

Love the new music app. Listening to it almost non-stop since updated.
 
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ledzep1

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Jan 24, 2016
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What have they done to the cover art section when playing music!!!!

i cant be the only one who thinks that looks worse, I liked when the album cover art filled the top half of the screen, anyone know if this can be changed in settings?

Also anyway to edit the recently added section, it looks messy.
 

KALLT

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Sep 23, 2008
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What have they done to the cover art section when playing music!!!!

i cant be the only one who thinks that looks worse, I liked when the album cover art filled the top half of the screen, anyone know if this can be changed in settings?

Also anyway to edit the recently added section, it looks messy.

Nope and nope.
 
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yep-sure

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Sep 21, 2012
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Love the new music app. Listening to it almost non-stop since updated.

Agree. I'm loving the new Music app and all the other design overhauls on iOS10. It's great having fonts you can read again, and an actual UI instead of bright pink text on blurred background.

The Music app is so much more usable just from making things a little bigger. I think the bigger and bolder fonts look way better than previous. I can actually remove a song from Up Next now without it playing! The "For You" section is actually useful instead of just recommending that I discover new albums that I already own in my Library. The playlists it generates from your own library are cool, and the recommendations have been great so far.

Great update.
 
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steve62388

macrumors 68040
Apr 23, 2013
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Can anyone tell me if the following features are by design or a bug? Pictures taken on an iPad mini.

If they can grab four random album covers from my playlist and display them in this screen:-



Why wouldn't they do the same on this screen?



And what's with all this white space on the left? It's a huge waste of screen real estate.

 
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jerm13

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May 4, 2016
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2 things I like about the updated iTunes. The lower volume issue I had seems to have been corrected. On the previous version of iTunes, if I listened to radio, the volume seemed lower and I found myself having to crank it up to hear. My purchased music always sounded fine, but for radio, it was lower. Secondly, all of the radio stations I've started seem to do a better job of playing different songs. On the last version, I did get more repeats than I wanted when I would skip a song.
 

Casfin

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Feb 17, 2016
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You're welcome :)

Someone turned me on to Cesium a year back or so and I try to pay it forward by mentioning it to others. It's become a daily app for me. Plus, the developer writes some of the funniest release notes ever, which I particularly enjoy.


I've used it for a bit as well. Hell, the dark theme alone is enough for me to keep it.
 

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MVallee

macrumors 6502a
Feb 8, 2007
810
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Ontario, Canada
Cesium for me, shame it doesn't support lyrics though.

It does actually support lyrics if you have added them in iTunes. Play a song and press the "i" to show the info. In the top right corner there is a lyrics button. That button is only there if you have added lyrics to that track.
 

Loge

macrumors 68030
Jun 24, 2004
2,836
1,312
England
It does actually support lyrics if you have added them in iTunes. Play a song and press the "i" to show the info. In the top right corner there is a lyrics button. That button is only there if you have added lyrics to that track.

Thanks, it does indeed, I had not spotted the lyrics button :)
 

hologram

macrumors 6502a
May 12, 2007
527
179
Hate the Music app. It's a rare step backwards for Apple. They often do things i don't like, but rarely do things so ridiculously stupid that I HATE them.
What possible reason could Apple have for not allowing us to listen to a single song in a playlist?
What if I don't WANT to listen to what's Up Next? There's no way to clear or disable it. And creating separate playlists just for a song or two is a BS workaround.
Shouldn't that be my decision and not theirs?
I went to the Apple product feedback page, but the Music app isn't listed so there's no obvious way to tell them what a dumb move this was.
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Can anyone tell me whether Genius is still available in the new version of iTunes? Too scared to install it.
Yes, it's still there under Settings.
 

RobbyIdol

macrumors regular
Mar 20, 2012
248
185
So I went to the Apple Store and got my first hands-on experience with the new Music app in iOS 10. I didn't.... hate it... as much as I thought I would.

The Good:
- The Library home screen (with it's obnoxiously large header font and oversized Recently Added tiles at the bottom) is suprisingly customizable. You can add or remove buttons like Playlist, Artists, Genre, Videos, etc. You can even remove Downloaded Music button if it's redundant to your existing Apple Music library. You can even reorder the list in which the buttons appear - by default it reads Playlist, Artist, Albums, Songs - but you can reorder it to read Artist, Songs, Playlist, or even add in Genre, Compilations, etc. It's basically a homescreen version of what the bottom tile bar on the classic iOS 6 Music app used to be. Forgive me for being so impressed with such a small detail, but Apple has taken away user control SO much in recent years that this level of customization caught me off guard.

- That flickering text bug from iOS 9 is finally gone. God I hated that.

- Like most of iOS 10, it doesn't lag *as much* as 9 does. It's not 8.4.1 buttery smooth, but maybe it will be on the iPhone 7. I don't know. I tested an iPhone 6 and 6S at the store, and both dropped frames slightly when scrolling the Artist list (like usual with iOS 9).

The Bad:
- Large font. It's been beaten to death. We know, it sucks.
- The Recently Added tiles on the homescreen are too big. I much preferred the 8.4.1 - 9.3 style with 3 albums across the top, no more no less.
- Reliance on Artist stock photos instead of defaulting to an album cover when no artist image is available is lame.
- My BIGGEST gripe: When you select an artist, instead of a list of albums you get a GRID of album covers in no particular order. Who the hell thought this was an efficient way to sort and search for music? This is one thing that stops me from upgrading. It's that annoying to me. I'm still on 9.0.1, which for all of it's lag or bugs, was the last time we were able to list albums beneath each Artist like we did on iOS 6. It's a little touch that really makes all the difference for someone that uses the Music app as much as I do.

In the end, the iOS 10 Music app wasn't as much of a disaster as I expected. But it's also not worth upgrading if you're a nitpicky Music user like myself. I'll be curious to see if some design changes occur with 10.1 or 10.2 in the future to fix some of these issues.
 
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Paco II

macrumors 68020
Sep 13, 2009
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I really have no big issues with the look and feel, but HATE all the features they've removed :(
 

RobbyIdol

macrumors regular
Mar 20, 2012
248
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I feel like we'll see a fairly decent "polish" or upgrade on the Music app with 10.2 or 10.3, the way we have with 8.4 and 9.2.
 

canucksfan88

macrumors 6502a
Oct 28, 2007
560
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it took me 7ish minutes to find the shuffle and repeat controls...i finally had to google it and even then it took a while...

kind of pathetic UI if you ask me
 
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steve62388

macrumors 68040
Apr 23, 2013
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Hate the Music app. It's a rare step backwards for Apple. They often do things i don't like, but rarely do things so ridiculously stupid that I HATE them.
What possible reason could Apple have for not allowing us to listen to a single song in a playlist?
What if I don't WANT to listen to what's Up Next? There's no way to clear or disable it. And creating separate playlists just for a song or two is a BS workaround.
Shouldn't that be my decision and not theirs?
I went to the Apple product feedback page, but the Music app isn't listed so there's no obvious way to tell them what a dumb move this was.
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Yes, it's still there under Settings.

I'm trying to figure out why you wouldn't just press stop (pause) after you had listened to the song.
 

hologram

macrumors 6502a
May 12, 2007
527
179
I'm trying to figure out why you wouldn't just press stop (pause) after you had listened to the song.
Because I don't always hang out at the iPad waiting fo a song to finish. And sometimes I just want to hear 2-3 songs from a playlist of 60 or more. Or I'd like to repeat a song a few times.
But the main reason is, we can't control the way we listen to music now. Maybe this suits you... it doesn't suit me.
Glad you like it, though.
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It's under "Apple Music".
apple.com/feedback
That's for the paid Apple Music service, not the Music app.
 
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steve-p

macrumors 68000
Oct 14, 2008
1,740
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Newbury, UK
Wtf Apple. No lyrics display for most of my 12000 tracks, even though they are present in the files and still display fine on Mac. What is so hard about supporting embedded lyrics as well as Apple Music lyrics? I guess it's just easier to shaft your customers by not bothering.
 

starting

macrumors newbie
May 25, 2013
23
0
Nobody else is using the play all songs of an artist? Like when you have some albums of a band and you just want to listen to all of the songs in order... you had this option in the artist view in ios 9. Is it really gone?
 
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