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IndianBird

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I've seen some with lyrics and some without. I expected that during public beta 1.

I like the new app. It's much easier to wade through I think.
 

Shirasaki

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May 16, 2015
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Just a thought: if ever Apple Music allows me to, hmm, I mean, uh, in previous iOS 9, I can listen to Beats 1 and add favourite song to iTunes Store Wishlist. If Apple ever allows me to do the same in their Apple Music songs I may consider just ignoring this trash and focus on searching for music.
 

jonnyb098

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Yes. Because you need to "scroll down" a little
Bit, or quite a bit if song have lyrics, to see it.
This is gonna be a big freaking problem. Seriously whoever thought the current now playing screen was "too much" needs to just stop. My biggest gripe with the new iOS 10 music app is the horrendously ugly now playing screen. I guess all the whining about the album art bleeding to the top of the screen paid off.........
 
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lagwagon

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This is gonna be a big freaking problem. Seriously whoever thought the current now playing screen was "too much" needs to just stop. My biggest gripe with the new iOS 10 music app is the horrendously ugly now playing screen. I guess all the whining about the album art bleeding to the top of the screen paid off.........

And here you are contributing to the whining only for change to happen later down the road for someone who likes the new app. Doing the exact thing that lead to change in something you now don't like.

I swear you can't write his stuff. It's pure gold.
 
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blasto2236

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Nov 4, 2012
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I think this new app is one step forward, but three steps back.
Before on an artist page, you had a nice profile picture of them, now i have to click to see a picture in a popup? Oh my..

And where ist the freaking albums link on the artists page gone?
Now all we have on the artists page is this fricking carousel with a total of 25 (!!!) items. Wow!
I'm a big fan of a radioplay/audio drama, which has over hundreds of albums. Before, "album" was a link, heading you to the FULL overview of albums. I hated it, because you couldn't sort it manually, but now it's gone completely..
Now we have to use the sucking search function to go to album 75, because I can only see 25. Much step backward..

And yes, I reported it with the Feedback app already and hope, that someone will read it and do something about.

/rant (sorry for that :D)

You can still access this view from the search. Search for an artist. Instead of choosing the artist at the top, scroll down to Albums and choose "See all" off to the right.

I agree that it's a bit odd to have removed this view from the Artist page, but it is luckily still there in some form.
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Seconded.

Apple needs to place MORE focus on the stars, not abandon them. Here's a piece of feedback I provided Apple via the Feedback app. I'm curious what other music fans think:


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Star ratings are no longer present in the Music app.

I'm not certain if this is a beta bug or a deliberate decision, but as a music lover, I feel that star ratings are an incredibly important feature to have.

While the "Love" feature is used to improve the algorithmic suggestions in the "For You" section, the purpose of star ratings is to allow the user to tag the music he likes, so he can go back to it afterwards.

If I have a particular artist that I like, I will give my favourite songs by that artist high star ratings to signify that I love particular songs. In iTunes, that allows me to create all sorts of Smart Playlists that pull out my favourite songs from a vast library, and I can create playlists based on these characteristics (i.e. my favourite heavy metal songs, my favourite songs by Bob Dylan, my favourite songs that I've added to my library within the past month etc...)

This is why I and many friends have spent years and years adding star ratings to our iTunes libraries; they're an amazing feature when you combine them with Smart Playlists.


What the iOS Music app needs is a modern equivalent of that. The curated playlists are excellent when I'm looking for new music to check out, but music listeners often just want to hear music they know and love. And given how large our libraries are, it's hard to sift through so many artists, albums, and songs.

That's why in addition to the great curated material, what Apple Music needs is a modern equivalent of Smart Playlists. The iTunes implementation would be too complex in an iOS world, but that's why I think a great solution would be to implement filters. Think of the UI of the old Beats Music 'The Sentence' feature. Add that to the Library tab, and make it so that the user can simply and easily specify characteristics (i.e. 5 star pop songs or 4+ star songs by Nine Inch Nails or my most played songs by The Beatles etc...) rather than just moods.

The user will easily select the parameters and it will automatically and dynamically generate a playlist from his or her library of all the music that meets those criteria.


The beauty here is that it's all based on the user's specific preferences, rather than just on a curator's suggestions. The user rates what she likes and can easily come back to it later. That's why star ratings are so important. Curation is amazing for finding new music and interesting playlists, but it only provides half the experience. The other half is this characteristic-based filter system. That's why star ratings are so important.


Thanks!
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This is excellent feedback and something I hope Apple takes heed of. I was a loyal Beats subscriber, and The Sentence is one of the nifty features I rarely used but still miss. Essentially combining this with the Smart Playlist in iTunes would be genius.
 

GrumpyTrucker

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Jun 1, 2014
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I've seen some with lyrics and some without. I expected that during public beta 1.

I like the new app. It's much easier to wade through I think.
I fully expect some stuff to be missing it's just that some people are reporting seeing lyrics but I'm seeing none at all. Sometimes I've got a Lyrics heading with a show toggle, sometimes that's not there at all. When I have got the lyrics heading every time I tap show it results in a "failed to load lyrics" error. If someone can give an example of a sing that does have lyrics I'll see if that works.
Just find and load lyrics to your local iTunes music library music.
Or if you refer to Apple Music, hmm, then you will have to wait for quite a while as few songs are being added with lyrics yet.

Yeah, Apple Music lyrics. See above :)
 

TigerMSTR

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Sep 30, 2014
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This is gonna be a big freaking problem. Seriously whoever thought the current now playing screen was "too much" needs to just stop. My biggest gripe with the new iOS 10 music app is the horrendously ugly now playing screen. I guess all the whining about the album art bleeding to the top of the screen paid off.........

It's grown on me. I like it.
 

dschulian

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Apr 29, 2015
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You can still access this view from the search. Search for an artist. Instead of choosing the artist at the top, scroll down to Albums and choose "See all" off to the right.

Oh, thanks for the workaround. That gives me hope that it will reintroduces in a later beta version.
 

Defender2010

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Jun 6, 2010
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Lots of little bugs need ironed out in the music app. In album view the right edge of the album art is cut off by the A-Z and No. In song view the download icon is also cut off.
 
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jonnyb098

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And here you are contributing to the whining only for change to happen later down the road for someone who likes the new app. Doing the exact thing that lead to change in something you now don't like.

I swear you can't write his stuff. It's pure gold.
I know isnt it great! Apple haas become a company that will change things if enough people cpm[
Lots of little bugs need ironed out in the music app. In album view the right edge of the album art is cut off by the A-Z and No. In song view the download icon is also cut off.
Great , they'll probably fix these in iOS 10.3. See ya in March 2017 for that fix.
 

btkadams

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Sep 6, 2012
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I really can't stand how "love" is now buried in a menu and not always visible when you're looking at a song. I use that feature quite a bit and it's nice to see if I love a track when skipping through songs in a playlist. It's brutal in CarPlay because you can't even tell if you love the song or not - even when you DO tap the menu button to bring up the Love button. I've reported it both the CarPlay issue and the general issue with it being buried in a menu through the feedback assistant.
 

cornycopier

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Aug 13, 2014
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Tapping "all albums" is definitely NOT showing all available albums from an artist. If I perform the same artist search on my Sonos system, the Grateful Dead returns probably 40 albums at least. iOS 10 Apple Music shows maybe 10. Even after tapping show all. Hope they sort that out.
 
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GrumpyTrucker

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Jun 1, 2014
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Anyone having app crashes with the new music app? If I search for an artist then try to go to an album, or click through from a suggestion in For You, the album page will start to load then the whole app crashes. Happens every time. Only way I can actually listen to album is by tapping the cover to start it playing then going to the now playing screen.

Also, is there no way to "go to album" if listening a song, let's say, from a playlist? Known bug, just currently missing in this build, me missing the obvious?
 

lagwagon

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Anyone having app crashes with the new music app? If I search for an artist then try to go to an album, or click through from a suggestion in For You, the album page will start to load then the whole app crashes. Happens every time. Only way I can actually listen to album is by tapping the cover to start it playing then going to the now playing screen.

Also, is there no way to "go to album" if listening a song, let's say, from a playlist? Known bug, just currently missing in this build, me missing the obvious?

Not sure about the crashing. I haven't come across that on my devices.

As for the "go to album" when listening to a song. Beta 3 (and public beta 2 when released) you can tap the track/album name above the controls in the full player screen.
 

blasto2236

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Nov 4, 2012
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Anyone having app crashes with the new music app? If I search for an artist then try to go to an album, or click through from a suggestion in For You, the album page will start to load then the whole app crashes. Happens every time. Only way I can actually listen to album is by tapping the cover to start it playing then going to the now playing screen.

Also, is there no way to "go to album" if listening a song, let's say, from a playlist? Known bug, just currently missing in this build, me missing the obvious?

Same bug here on my 6s Plus, but only after moving to DP3. I have been working around it by selecting the artist from the top and then finding the album (if it happens to be one of the few you can now see in this view).
 

Shirasaki

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May 16, 2015
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Now Apple don't event want any user hiding Apple Music, and don't read lyrics added through iTunes anymore? Apple Music exclusive?
I know it is beta but such move is way too disgusting for me. I shall see. If all of those are true, plus no more rating system, I will stick at iOS 10 until my iPhone dies. And jump the ship to android.
 

lagwagon

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Now Apple don't event want any user hiding Apple Music, and don't read lyrics added through iTunes anymore? Apple Music exclusive?
I know it is beta but such move is way too disgusting for me. I shall see. If all of those are true, plus no more rating system, I will stick at iOS 10 until my iPhone dies. And jump the ship to android.

Hiding Apple Music is supposed to be coming in a later beta for when a user turns it off in settings. It was mentioned in the developer beta 1 release notes as not added yet.
 
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Loco Emperor

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Jun 17, 2016
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I am back to groove music. You all should check it out as it is pretty good and one of Microsoft best apps. Plus dark mode lol. Apple Music isn't bad or anything but I hated some features and design cues.

Here are some groove screenshots

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GrumpyTrucker

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Jun 1, 2014
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Just put PB2 on and the app crash seems to have stopped. Tapping the title of the currently playing track though, while trying to take me to the album for that track just results in a blank page. Only if I'm going through Apple Music though, if I'm doing it from an album in my library - even if that album isn't downloaded locally - it works as it should.

Am I remembering right that the "go to album" jump didn't work right when Music was first launched? Something about it seems familiar. IMG_0847.PNG
 
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