AliBaba, where all Dell users buy their headphones?
I hate having the cans around my neck more than the cable.
Bluetooth has pairing issues. Ask my magic trackpad and handsfree. It's not wife proof yet
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AliBaba, where all Dell users buy their headphones?
I hate having the cans around my neck more than the cable.
Bluetooth has pairing issues. Ask my magic trackpad and handsfree. It's not wife proof yet
I do agree with @Oppenheim. We need to forget the past, and look to the future. And this is the future @Oppenheim is predicting for us:
If the new design doesn't come with magsafe at least there's a solution!
https://www.macrumors.com/2016/01/04/griffin-breaksafe-magnetic-usb-c-cable-macbook/
https://www.macrumors.com/2016/01/04/griffin-breaksafe-magnetic-usb-c-cable-macbook/
Dear OPY
There is No Such Thing as a Blu tooth "Bose" noise cancelling headphone, and Bose has the best as tested noise cancelling head phones.
And yes noise cancelling headphones need batteries (1 AAA) but what does that have to do with "Anything" relating to the 3.5 mm adapter :0 ????
Why don't you just admit you are all about form and little about function.
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A Magsafe USB-C from Apple sounds like the best of both worlds - wonder if anyone's asked Ive why he doesn't appear to have thought of that for the rMB...
Why are you mis quoting me? "Bose"?
Did you see the rumour about the iphone 7 sans headphone jack on today's homepage?
Why bother with a wire when you already have all the ingredients (battery, electronics) on-board that are necessary for wireless transmission? It doesn't make sense. The only thing preventing it is tradition. Which is very, very hard to justify in tech.
Lightning will not get into the Pro line running OS X.
In production you still need the low latency and variety of choice that the jack port offers. Trying to force professionals using something like Thunderbolt again is a waste of time. Personally I hated the thin portfolio of products supported and it's expensive licensing made the extra value from performance irrelevant.
I cleaned up my museum/mausoleum of cables, adapters and gear yesterday. I must have spent almost a MacBooks asking price on adapters and docks alone in the last decade.
In production you still need the low latency and variety of choice that the jack port offers. Trying to force professionals using something like Thunderbolt again is a waste of time. Personally I hated the thin portfolio of products supported and it's expensive licensing made the extra value from performance irrelevant.
I cleaned up my museum/mausoleum of cables, adapters and gear yesterday. I must have spent almost a MacBooks asking price on adapters and docks alone in the last decade.
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The latency from the inner mile (i.e. from 3.5mm jack to the headphone speaker input) as a proportion of the overall latency from CPU register to ear is small. Adding Bluetooth into the mix is a marginal increase in latency which is already imperceptible.
Wireless headphones give superior function: inherently noise-cancelling and much more portable.
Anyway, all I'm saying is that I want to see the 3.5mm jack removed from any new MBP. The only ports should be USB-C (two on the 14" and three on the 16").
We've had very similar moaning and whining from traditional users over the removal of the DVD drive and the ethernet port. If Apple tried to bring back an Ethernet port or a DVD drive, there'd be holy war.
DVD drive was a massive hindrance to progress, and the Ethernet port was also pretty useless and preventative of shrinking the machine.
3.5mm jack is still a frequently used port and not in anyone's way.
Also, I don't want them to get rid of the HDMI port. It's very useful to me as well.
Do you have any data on that? I have several bluetooth audio products and they can't keep up with sports or movies. It's OK for music as the sound doesn't have to be synced with moving images.
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Was A2DP enabled?
aptX Low Latency for Bluetooth is another technology that can bring the latency down. Lots of interest in this at CES.
I did not misquote you- I said Bose makes the best noise cancelling head phones and they don't make a blu tooth model. You went on to continue to promote the removal of the head phone jack because there is no reason not to have wireless- Then you made some odd statement about Bose headphones needing batteries, sure they do but still are not blu tooth and still are the best noise canceling headphones which I like to use with my MBP on planes. Sounds like you think we all should stop buying Bose headphones since they are not Blu tooth and that doesn't fit with your view of what form should look like. Or maybe all of us Bose buyers should just march on Bose headquarters demanding Blu tooth noise cancelling headphones with signs saying OPY said we should do this since function follows form.
A2DP was introduced as a standard with bluetooth version 2.0, and is certainly a part of most 4.0+ devices. It's focus is mainly on decoding layers of mpeg, and doesn't really address the problems with syncing video on a screen to an external wireless sound receiver.
aptX Low Latency is an interesting technology since it is a dedicated solution to address the problems of syncing wireless sound and video. In theory it should give you the impercetible range of +40 ms and -60 ms in order for video and audio to feel as synced. Again here the inconsistencies between actual sound gear and source of transmitting is generateing a complex situation for the consumer to achieve satisfaction out of the box.
The good thing with Apple promoting and introducing such a standard is that the industry along with consumers may request and require this issue to be a part of their will to purchase. I'm all in for a cable less future, but I still want the diversity and rich selection of gear to go along with my iPhone or Macbook. The track record of Apples own introduction of new standards have been a history of hit and miss.
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OMG I must have really hit a nerve when all you have is name calling. What am I on about ( did you miss your english class) (obviously) I am sick of you blathering about stripping everything off the MBP just to make it fit some look you are going for, rather than being concerned about what it can DO! Go hang out where you belong the with the MB Air people they want thin and light and minimal power just like you
Garbage how? What mythical Bluetooth headphones are you using that are great? Still haven't said because you don't actually use any...
Battery is one of the biggest issues for phone. This would flow through to phones... Bluetooth today is battery expensive.
When the only plus is hipsters get to have less wires and there's one less port on the chassis... Its doesnt stack up. Bluetooth isn't there yet. Proven by how few manufacturers make high end Bluetooth headphones.
Maybe this move will speed up bluetooth adaption? I am waiting for both the MBP and the iPhone 7. For me it's make or break this year.
I love this thread but it could do with more civilized replies right now.
The lack of any announcements rumors or leaks is very sobering. I suppose even a march update is not a sure thing. June is a safe bet.
I guess their laptops are not a priority. Odd, in light of the announcement that iphone production is being ramped down.
I guess their laptops are not a priority. Odd, in light of the announcement that iphone production is being ramped down.
Wooooh. Did you say 16" ? Did I miss a rumour that there will be a 16"? Is this a weak rumour, solid rumour or all but inevitable?
I notice no one questioned it after you said it. That makes me wonder if there has been a rumour / forum conversation I missed where people have decided this is likely the new lineup.
(I would so love them to do a 16" MBP).
It's not just one less port, it's also that the 3.5 mm jack is pretty long so I bet it'll make the hardware design of the internals a lot easier.
Unfortunately I have to agree with you here. I absolutely love Bluetooth, and actually haven't bought any "normal" headsets for perhaps up to ten years now. I'd expected multiple things since then, which haven't actually come through:
- Established manufacturers have a wide range of Bluetooth devices (not happened)
- Cheap in-ears have emerged from good brands (my JBL Reflect in-ears cost 100 euros and still look biggish)
- Pairing with multiple devices is easy (the multipoint thing hasn't really happened)
- No interruptions in service (on my 2010 13" MacBook, VLC has to be on the foreground to play audio over Bluetooth; activating another window will make the audio stutter)
Just a grabbag of little problems. I love Bluetooth, I really do. But all these little problems need to be worked out IMHO.
But then again, perhaps it's necessary for Apple to simply kill the 3.5 jack and force the headphone makers to get their act together.
Woah, you want to use WIRES? Are you some kind of dinosaur? Wireless is the way to go! I want to see all ports removed from every device Apple produce! /s
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