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doitdada

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That is also something crazy.... we've had AptX for how long now? At least 5 years. Everybody else supports it nowadays, I really hope that Apple will start supporting it.

Qualcomm acquired the company that made aptXs in the fall 2015, so they may be able to incorporate it into their chipsets this year sometime. Qualcomm supplied the modem to the iPhone 6S, still some talks regarding a switch to Intel in 2017, but I think Qualcomm will be the supplier for the iPhone 7 as well if they want to eliminate the minijack and replace it with aptX.
 
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MDull

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I am getting so tired of following these threads, because we are getting NOTHING from Apple or Intel. we keep re-hashing the same old ****. March, no, June. Will it have a DGPU on and on I feel we are being used by Apple and Intel just to keep the interest and prices up. I will check back when Apple or intel actually announces something.
 

Mike in Kansas

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I am getting so tired of following these threads, because we are getting NOTHING from Apple or Intel. we keep re-hashing the same old ****. March, no, June. Will it have a DGPU on and on I feel we are being used by Apple and Intel just to keep the interest and prices up. I will check back when Apple or intel actually announces something.
Glad I got my 15" MBP back in October...
 

SSD-GUY

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I am getting so tired of following these threads, because we are getting NOTHING from Apple or Intel. we keep re-hashing the same old ****. March, no, June. Will it have a DGPU on and on I feel we are being used by Apple and Intel just to keep the interest and prices up. I will check back when Apple or intel actually announces something.

Calm down dear.
 

Oppenheim

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WWDC will see the launch of the final major design refresh of the MBP. It will be a beautiful machine, in 14" and 16" models heavily inspired by the hugely successful MacBook. Interface ports will be kept to a minimum and, I hope, the 3.5mm jack will be removed. High bandwidth SSD and memory and all peripherals extremely low power. Energy efficiency will be amazing with Skylake, OSX improvements and low power hardware everywhere.

In the future, we may see something like the merging of the MBP and the iPad pro. Or even your iphone connected to a 5k display wirelessly! But will it be on ARM or Intel?
 

Psyfuzz

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... and, I hope, the 3.5mm jack will be removed.

Why do you hope for that? Surely you'd want to hope for a device that can balance great design rather than preemptively hope for feature-concessions?

Let alone the fact it makes no sense to remove the 3.5mm jack - if the 12" Macbook can fit one on there's no way the new Pro's are going to be thin enough to require it's removal.

I don't understand this war on the headphone jack MacRumors has suddenly got - you want to use wireless headphones then you can still use them, the port takes up barely any space and offers universal access to third-party headphones/auxiliary inputs etc.

Maybe it's a case of stockholm-syndrome preparing for the iPhone 7's launch and if we act like the headphone port's useless enough times we'll actually start believing it?
 
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Exile714

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Is it just me, or does the lightning cable break all the time even though you only use it once a day to charge your phone? I can't imagine spending very much on Lightning headphones.
 
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Oppenheim

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May I borrow you some professional AKG headphones?
Do they come with noise cancelling? Need batteries, yeah? Why bother with a silly cable that's unnecessary, prehistoric and constrains the user? Especially when everything is there to do it. The only thing keeping low bandwidth ancient cables is "tradition". A silly reason on its own to continue to do something.
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Is it just me, or does the lightning cable break all the time even though you only use it once a day to charge your phone? I can't imagine spending very much on Lightning headphones.

"Lightening headphones" are a figment of your imagination.
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Steve Jobs is smiling down at us ;)
 

AirdanMR

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Do they come with noise cancelling? Need batteries, yeah? Why bother with a silly cable that's unnecessary, prehistoric and constrains the user? Especially when everything is there to do it. The only thing keeping low bandwidth ancient cables is "tradition". A silly reason on its own to continue to do something.
[doublepost=1453629576][/doublepost]

"Lightening headphones" are a figment of your imagination.
[doublepost=1453629629][/doublepost]

Steve Jobs is smiling down at us ;)

Just in case you didn't go to school that day...

The audible spectre a human ear can hear is 20-20.000hz, and that's why the iphone and ipad give you a 20hz to 20.000hz "frecuency response".

Sure you can go higher and lower and it will result in a little bit more clear and deep sound but not as really noticeable as if your ears could hear the complete spectrum. Also there are a lot of factors apart from bandwith that affect audio quality like impedance, SNR, distorsion etc... and of course the audio file format.

My AKG K612PRO is capable of 12hz-39500hz and I don't know what kind of sorcery is that, but hey! it does it through a silly cable that's unnecessary, prehistoric and constrains the user! o_O

Audio quality is not relative to the damm freaking port, but it is for audio file format-compresion and the input-output set-up. So let's cut to the chase, we are talking about the iphone here. So what? Are you going to listen FLAC songs on a 16GB device? Good look with that, maybe you will be able to storage one full album.

If you want to give Apple another reason to milk your pockets, go for it and buy it! ;) and maybe buy it again every year when the port breaks.
 

nicovh

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Just in case you didn't go to school that day...

The audible spectre a human ear can hear is 20-20.000hz, and that's why the iphone and ipad give you a 20hz to 20.000hz "frecuency response".

Sure you can go higher and lower and it will result in a little bit more clear and deep sound but not as really noticeable as if your ears could hear the complete spectrum. Also there are a lot of factors apart from bandwith that affect audio quality like impedance, SNR, distorsion etc... and of course the audio file format.

My AKG K612PRO is capable of 12hz-39500hz and I don't know what kind of sorcery is that, but hey! it does it through a silly cable that's unnecessary, prehistoric and constrains the user! o_O

Audio quality is not relative to the damm freaking port, but it is for audio file format-compresion and the input-output set-up. So let's cut to the chase, we are talking about the iphone here. So what? Are you going to listen FLAC songs on a 16GB device? Good look with that, maybe you will be able to storage one full album.

If you want to give Apple another reason to milk your pockets, go for it and buy it! ;) and maybe buy it again every year when the port breaks.

I wish I could afford the K712's! I'm exactly on the same page as you :)
Everytime somebody tells me they download their music off of soundcloud/youtube a piece of me dies on the inside.

Although the K712's have marvelous sound quality, I just can't get over that silly cable that's unnecessary, prehistoric and constrains the user. Just REALLY turns me off....! I mean WHO in their right mind would still want to use a CABLE. just urghhmnrh *hurls*. That's so 2000-now.
/s
 
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AirdanMR

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I wish I could afford the K712's! I'm exactly on the same page as you :)
Everytime somebody tells me they download their music off of soundcloud/youtube a piece of me dies on the inside.

Although the K712's have marvelous sound quality, I just can't get over that silly cable that's unnecessary, prehistoric and constrains the user. Just REALLY turns me off....! I mean WHO in their right mind would still want to use a CABLE. just urghhmnrh *hurls*. That's so 2000-now.
/s

I know right? All this fanboyism effort and "quality" excuses to justify it and at the end... all of them will listen mp3 or ACC with bad quality... what a placebo.

The K712 it's beautifull! I've never tested it though but with a good sound card it must be amazing.
 
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Oppenheim

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Just in case you didn't go to school that day...

The audible spectre a human ear can hear is 20-20.000hz, and that's why the iphone and ipad give you a 20hz to 20.000hz "frecuency response".

Sure you can go higher and lower and it will result in a little bit more clear and deep sound but not as really noticeable as if your ears could hear the complete spectrum. Also there are a lot of factors apart from bandwith that affect audio quality like impedance, SNR, distorsion etc... and of course the audio file format.

My AKG K612PRO is capable of 12hz-39500hz and I don't know what kind of sorcery is that, but hey! it does it through a silly cable that's unnecessary, prehistoric and constrains the user! o_O

Audio quality is not relative to the damm freaking port, but it is for audio file format-compresion and the input-output set-up. So let's cut to the chase, we are talking about the iphone here. So what? Are you going to listen FLAC songs on a 16GB device? Good look with that, maybe you will be able to storage one full album.

If you want to give Apple another reason to milk your pockets, go for it and buy it! ;) and maybe buy it again every year when the port breaks.

I didn't realise IBM-compatible PC users could hear tones at 40kHz.
 

Oppenheim

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Oct 11, 2015
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'Philips M2L/27 Fidelio' is a figment of my imagination?

If so, what exactly do you think the Lightning-as-audio-port rumor is about?

I don't really care about audio. It's not an interesting problem for me. Having the DAC right beside the speaker seems to make sense. I am very skeptical as to whether any "improvement" is in any way perceptible. All this talk of "cross-talk" seems very marketing-speak to me - i.e. solving a problem that doesn't exist. Philips seem to think there are buyers for it and best of luck to them.

Anyway, advanced Bluetooth protocol + in-ear wireless buds (DAC right beside the speaker) + wireless charging seems to make most sense.

Or, go buy a USB-C to 3.5mm connector if you really want to keep your legacy "studio quality" peripherals that you spent whatever $$$ on.

I cannot see any good reason to keep a 3.5mm jack other than "tradition".
 

Psyfuzz

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Or, go buy a USB-C to 3.5mm connector if you really want to keep your legacy "studio quality" peripherals that you spent whatever $$$ on.

I cannot see any good reason to keep a 3.5mm jack other than "tradition".

Do you work for Apple by any chance?
 
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James3000

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I predict a rather modest processor and graphics card bump.

Apple is just making way too much money to bother with a full scale redesign.

I don't know about that mate, they seemed to go to a lot of effort to make the MacBook.

I can understand they might not change too much in case they make things worse (unlikely, but maybe going thinner and removing ports?), but to just 'not bother' doesn't seem right.
 
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