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The No Touch Bar 13 Macbook Version
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base 13 2016 is faster than the base 13, mid 13 2015 28W cpu and 7 points lower than the 2015 high end 28w i7..... so you can do the math
base 13 2016 is faster than the base 13, mid 13 2015 28W cpu and 7 points lower than the 2015 high end 28w i7..... so you can do the math
where does m7 fit into that though? (the 12" macbook CTO)
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Ok been using the new rMBP for a good 4 hours now and I LOVE the new keyboard, I'm not sure where all the hate for the Butterfly keyboard comes from.. I can type much faster and I love the feel of it as I type.
Hi everyone,
I am about to order the new base 13 inch MBP, but I still have a question about these USB C ports.
Can I use my external USB A hard drive (or even a simple USB stick) if I plug it into the USB A port of my current external monitor, which I will conect to this 2016 MBP with a HDMI to USB C adapter?
Your comments would be highly appreciated!
I am about to order the new base 13 inch MBP, but I still have a question about these USB C ports.
Can I use my external USB A hard drive (or even a simple USB stick) if I plug it into the USB A port of my current external monitor, which I will conect to this 2016 MBP with a HDMI to USB C adapter?
Your comments would be highly appreciated!
Yep, it is an alternative and if there was a 13.3" MB then I would expect that machine to become the most popular for the average user. But between the 12" MB and the base model 13.3" MBP, I totally expect the additional screen space will be the deciding factor for many to go with the MBP.
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No, you would need to connect USB as well. HDMI alone won't transfer USB. So go with a larger hub like the Apple Digital AV adapter and an USB-C extension cable so you don't have to see it.
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USB-C to HDMI Adapter
(through Amazon or eBay)
Specs/Features:
https://www.startech.com/AV/usb-c-video-adapters/usb-c-hdmi-adapter~CDP2HD
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Keep in mind that HDMI receives video signals, it doesn't support data transfer from/to a monitor port to/from a USB port unless it is connected with a USB adapter cable (not through an HDMI adapter). Why don't you buy one of the below adapter cables?
USB-C to USB-A Adapter Cable - M/F - 6in - USB 3.0
(through Amazon or eBay)
Specs/Features:
https://www.startech.com/Cables/usb-c/usb-3-0-c-a-adapter-cable~USB31CAADP
or
USB-C to USB-A Adapter - M/F - USB 3.0
https://www.startech.com/Cables/usb-c/usb-3-0-c-a-adapter~USB31CAADG
If you need the USB3.1 Gen 2 (10Gbps) adapter cable:
USB-C to USB-A Cable - M/M - 1m (3ft) - USB 3.1 (10Gbps)
https://www.startech.com/Cables/usb-c/usb-3-1-a-c-cable~USB31AC1M
For your help.
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There seems to be a fair bit of chatter comparing this to the 12" rMB, so I shall add my 2c to the discussion:
My primary use case for my (2015) 12" rMB is portable work machine for when I travel. I use a Citrix VPN to access my work "desktop" so the rMB had more than enough power. My main bottleneck is spotty hotel wifi or mobile internet, which is of course an unsolveable problem. I initially picked it up for its teensy tiny size ('downgraded' from a Retina MBP) but fell in love with the butterfly keyboard. While on the road the only accessory I use is a mouse, so I picked up a Logitech bluetooth one and have never ever thought in my head - damnit wish I had a proper USB port. I have a Classic Mac Pro at home for every other computing need I could possibly have.
After using it for a while though I found that you could have something 'too small'. It almost felt a little too dinky, especially when actually using it as a 'lap'top, and while going from 13" to 12" didn't seem all at much of a step down in real world use I could tell the difference. Or maybe my eyes are just used to the 13" screen, I dunno. Anyway, I lived with it because well, there wasn't anything else compelling.
Until now that is. I purchased a Space Grey model over the weekend and couldn't be happier*. I am back at 13", have no need for nor interest in the touchbar, lack of connectivity (and apparently gimped processor??) does not faze me in the least, form factor feels 'just right', butterfly v2 is even more awesome than butterfly v1 (though I realize this is subjective), weight isn't that much heavier that it becomes a burden.
* - that is, until another 18 months have passed and Apple release the next generation MacBook / MacBook Pro with some other awesome killer feature, but that's another story..
Happy to answer any 'real world use' questions between the rMB and the new non-touchbar MBP. Don't ask me for benchmarks and the like though, I have zero interest in all that stuff.
My primary use case for my (2015) 12" rMB is portable work machine for when I travel. I use a Citrix VPN to access my work "desktop" so the rMB had more than enough power. My main bottleneck is spotty hotel wifi or mobile internet, which is of course an unsolveable problem. I initially picked it up for its teensy tiny size ('downgraded' from a Retina MBP) but fell in love with the butterfly keyboard. While on the road the only accessory I use is a mouse, so I picked up a Logitech bluetooth one and have never ever thought in my head - damnit wish I had a proper USB port. I have a Classic Mac Pro at home for every other computing need I could possibly have.
After using it for a while though I found that you could have something 'too small'. It almost felt a little too dinky, especially when actually using it as a 'lap'top, and while going from 13" to 12" didn't seem all at much of a step down in real world use I could tell the difference. Or maybe my eyes are just used to the 13" screen, I dunno. Anyway, I lived with it because well, there wasn't anything else compelling.
Until now that is. I purchased a Space Grey model over the weekend and couldn't be happier*. I am back at 13", have no need for nor interest in the touchbar, lack of connectivity (and apparently gimped processor??) does not faze me in the least, form factor feels 'just right', butterfly v2 is even more awesome than butterfly v1 (though I realize this is subjective), weight isn't that much heavier that it becomes a burden.
* - that is, until another 18 months have passed and Apple release the next generation MacBook / MacBook Pro with some other awesome killer feature, but that's another story..
Happy to answer any 'real world use' questions between the rMB and the new non-touchbar MBP. Don't ask me for benchmarks and the like though, I have zero interest in all that stuff.
Did not want to start a whole thread on my question as it seems like this thread is the best place to ask.
Well my PC just died and have not used Mac for along time (using my old 2008 Macbook alum now sooo slow) and thinking of coming back to Mac, I have a couple questions that will dictate if I just build anther PC or get the non touch Macbook Pro for the budget I have.
1) Will the new non touch Macbook Pro run Autodesk Fusion 360 smoothly?
2) Will I be able to run 2 USB C docks from the 2 ports to get extra USB A and to run 2 1080p monitors?
3) related to 2 will doing this effect performance of the computer much?
Well my PC just died and have not used Mac for along time (using my old 2008 Macbook alum now sooo slow) and thinking of coming back to Mac, I have a couple questions that will dictate if I just build anther PC or get the non touch Macbook Pro for the budget I have.
1) Will the new non touch Macbook Pro run Autodesk Fusion 360 smoothly?
2) Will I be able to run 2 USB C docks from the 2 ports to get extra USB A and to run 2 1080p monitors?
3) related to 2 will doing this effect performance of the computer much?
Pointless to upgrade the CPU on the base model, may as well get the touch bar version for the same price basically.
I asked a similar question, and got a similar answer. For me, it is not a question of whether or not I can get the TB model for the same price, which is obvious. The no TB model has bigger battery, and a 15W CPU. I still have not heard an opinion/comparison of pure performance of the 2.0 i5 of the 2.4 i7. If anyone can comment, please leave the price equation out.
In that case you will have to wait for some benchmarks to come out for the 2.4ghz.i7 and compare.
I'm was tempted with the rMB m7 too but I don't see it as a main driver, whereas the non touch MBP I can. Not too fussed with the screen size (the 12" form factor is awesome) but the MBP offers a better CPU for occasional intensive tasks, faster SSD, better keyboard, better screen and better battery life. Couple that with it having active cooling rather than being fanless, I feel more comfortable it lasting a few years if used as a primary machine.
Glad to hear your experience, as I have also been contemplating moving from my current 2015 base 12" rMB to the 2016 base rMBP. I don't have any issues with the single USB-C port as I don't use SD cards, HDMI or even USB that often (I do occasionally but I have the USB-C to USB-A adapter) and while I don't think the keyboard is as good as the one in previous MacBooks, it works well enough and I don't have any problems using it.
My main thing is I wish the battery life were a teensy bit better (which was done in the 2016 version) and I wish I could be rid of the occasional stuttering/UI lag. So far, the new base 13" rMBP sounds like it could accomplish both of the above so it's perked my interest, but I've grown to like the quiet, fan-less design of the rMB. Previously, with my late 2013 13" rMBP, the fans would often kick in when I watch videos on VLC and the noise was fairly annoying. Since then, I've come to realize VLC is not the most efficient media player around and I've since switched to mpv for my video needs.
I guess this longwinded diatribe is my way of asking how the noise level is and do the fans kick in when you watch videos? If they do, are they noticeable and/or off-putting to you?
A teardown from iFixit today shows that the new MacBook Pro now uses a Wi-Fi module which is soldered on the logic board rather than a dedicated AirPort card. I wonder how this will affect WiFi performance and coverage. Can anyone with the new MacBook Pro compare the WiFi performance with another previous Mac?
I just don't hope the WiFi performance will now be comparable to iPhones and iPads, since these usually perform worse than any Mac.
I just don't hope the WiFi performance will now be comparable to iPhones and iPads, since these usually perform worse than any Mac.
No, because the HDMI input on the monitor cannot carry USB signals. You should be able to connect the integrated USB hub of your monitor to the other USB-C port using a USB-C to type-B cable, but then of course there is no port left to charge the computer. A dock seems pretty much a must for the no-touch bar model if you want to use an external monitor.
My WiFi Speeds are really fast. 2 Rooms away from the Router and im getting full speed. Had the MB 12" and MacBook Air before, same speed as it is now.
[doublepost=1478021104][/doublepost]BTW here is my Battery today:
Shame if true, although I find their description missing support for iPhone headset to be a bit odd (will it really not work?). Would like someone who actually owns one right now to try an optical cable if possible.
