The notch disease is spreading

[tbayrgs]

The narrow form factor is a MUCH worse disease IMO, closer to a plague. Let me get this straight, the next Samsung flagship will be too narrow, have those curved edges AND have a notch? Yeah, no thanks. As much as I enjoy getting the new version of Android 9 months late and being unable to root my phone, I think I'll pass.
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Yeah, I rather like the iPhone X design and feel that it's superior to any other "bezel less" design out there. The entire uproar over the notch is really baffling to me anyhow, it's just a bezel that doesn't go all the way across, what's the big deal? Look at it as a plus, the space that the status bar used to take has now been moved up and you gain a bit of screen real estate. It seems to me that phone makers are just using common sense.
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I'll argue that it does indeed look better. When I initially saw leaked pics I hated it. But now I actually like it and highly prefer it over a full sized bezel. I think that on some subconscious level I really appreciate the boost in functionality that it offers by moving the status bar up. I'm definitely a sucker for functionality and this wouldn't be the first time that I like something that maybe not as aesthetically pleasing because it improves functionality. To flip that a bit, whenever I get onto a non notch phone I become slightly annoyed to not find the notch because I know there is wasted screen space.

I think other oems aren't copying Apple out of fashion, I don't believe there is a big vibe out there saying the notch is aesthetically pleasing. But as you say, there is much more of a feeling that the notch is not aesthetically pleasing. But it's not surprising that oems realize the benefits of a notch, and that reality dictates you still need space for sensors and front camera.

Hey Doc, haven't seen you around these parts of late--nice to see you drop in.

 

[mi7chy]

The notch is a tank half empty or tank half full issue. For the majority they see it negatively as a tank half empty. With the notched Essential phone dropping in price from $699 to $399, iPhone X rumored to be discontinued due to bad sales, etc. the market will ultimately determine reality.

 

[gavroche]

Well. Um. Uh.

Joseph Henry Christmas

Alrighty then. Even though it’s just a rumor, I know the writing is on the wall. Even without this rumor, well the S9+ is just so damn good anyway. But a rumor like this just solidifies an idea I’d been kicking around.

With Mother’s Day just around the corner and my mom waiting to give me Christmas money since she didn’t see me over the holidays due to my pneumonia, I’ve been thinking of getting a red iPhone 8 Plus to go with my colorful purple S9+. Since I decided the 8 Plus is probably my ultimate iPhone (despite lacking a headphone jack ) and I don’t feel inclined to move on from this design and feature set, well...ever. Though realistically I know I’m going to have to at some point. But I’m gonna rock silver and red 8 Pluses until they can’t be rocked anymore.

I know Apple is going to perfect Face ID and do incredible things with OLED and LCD and cameras and so forth. I just don’t care what they are going to do with iPhones anymore. Not while iOS is being fixed. Not while Siri is being worked on. Not while Touch ID is gone.

I’m switching between the S9+ and my Pixel2 for mostly everything that doesn’t involve keeping up with contacts via iMessage. Oh and I use my iPhones for navigation because Apple Maps is usually better for me than other options where I live.

But anyway, my S9+ is just about perfect. The camera on it is everything I could wish for on a Smartphone. The battery life is a little “meh” but not a problem. Especially since I run 2 phone lines. Heh, and I’ve also got the extraordinary little Pixel 2 with a whopping 2 year warranty.

Yeah...so okay. Well I’m just going to hunker down with these great phones until...well...

...I don’t know...the zombie apocalypse?

FWIW I don’t think Samsung will do a bad version of a notched display. I don’t even think Apple’s was horrible. I’d rather not have had it, but it wasn’t really a problem.

I’m just feeling a bit...well, there are no words that come to mind yet. It’s too early. I’ve missed breakfast and I desperately need another coffee.

I really wonder what the average age of people on here is. I find it genuinely amazing the things people find to complain about (about any brand phone). As a middle aged person... i grew up with no cell phones, carried change to use a pay phone.. then had cell phones that were nothing like what we got today. The progression has been extraordinary, and I wish people had the perspective to enjoy what they have. And they get better every year.

 

[rafark]

I really wonder what the average age of people on here is. I find As a middle aged person...

I've also wondered the same thing, but the other way around.

 

[PhoneMe1]

For me it's not so much the asthetics of it all. Its the loss of information and functionality. Below is a side by side of my 8 plus and iPhone X. You can see so much more information on the 8 plus than on the X. I mean even simple things like battery percentage, Bluetooth, alarm.

I miss the % symbol but prefer not to carry around a brick, where's the big bezel brigade now? Can't have it both ways
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It looks gash on the iPhone X, why would companies that don’t need to, copy it?

Umm you need to ask? Samsung

 

[rafark]

The notch is a tank half empty or tank half full issue. For the majority they see it negatively as a tank half empty. With the notched Essential phone dropping in price from $699 to $399, iPhone X rumored to be discontinued due to bad sales, etc. the market will ultimately determine reality.

Totally doomed.

 

[TC_GoldRush]

The notch isn't a disease; it's a compromise.

Two things, though

1. Apple does the best job justifying its existence
2. I wonder whether each brand is just accepting the compromise or if they're racing to figure out how to lose the notch

Its awful to view a video in fullscreen with the Notch!

 

[AustinIllini]

Its awful to view a video in fullscreen with the Notch!

While this is true and I agree, most videos have an aspect ratio that lend themselves to full screen mode.

 

[Tsepz]

I'm still super happy with my S6 edge+. I'm patiently waiting out this awkward phase in smartphones (fingerprint reader on the back... notches... no mainstream 4K displays yet... speakers finally getting better but still not that good... batteries still on the small side).

Just got my battery replaced and I'm sittin pretty for now! Phone runs fantastic. I'm waiting for a Galaxy X or Note 10 ideally, if nothing else goes wrong.

I am in the same place with my Note8, got the 6GB RAM that I wanted in my smartphone, got the Dual Camera with OIS + Optical Zoom and huge Display plus SPen, been thinking maybe I do not need to move to the Note9 at all, just wait for the Note10 as that will be the major one.

To me the notch is one of the most awkward and most compromising features I have ever seen, last I checked the iPhone 8 Plus fits more in its screen than the X, so to me the notch is useless.

 

[Tsepz]

Totally doomed.

Thats massive, is this global share or US share?

 

[rafark]

Thats massive, is this global share or US share?

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...l-worldwide-phone-profits-in-q4-2017.2115429/

Tbh, though, i'd take it with a grain of salt.

 

[Tsepz]

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...l-worldwide-phone-profits-in-q4-2017.2115429/

Tbh, though, i'd take it with a grain of salt.

I see its profits, which would make sense as the X came in at a very high price, so margins grew thanks to it.

 

[Oohara]

Totally doomed.

Posting this seems to suggest the op was claiming the notch would diminish X sales or something...? I think the point of the thread was just that the notch design is spreading and according to a leak now also to Samsung devices.

In any case sales figures don't say a thing about how "good" a design is. At least not in this case, given that Apple's brand is so strong they could put a notch in a turd and have it sell just as well.

Disclaimer just in case: I have nothing against Apple in general, love my MBP and own a 7+. But I'll take a bezel even if fatter than Jabba's mom any day over a dent in my symmetrical content viewing field.

 

[rafark]

Posting this seems to suggest the op was claiming the notch would diminish X sales or something...? I think the point of the thread was just that the notch design is spreading and according to a leak now also to Samsung devices.

In any case sales figures don't say a thing about how "good" a design is. At least not in this case, given that Apple's brand is so strong they could put a notch in a turd and have it sell just as well.

I was not talking to the OP, but to a member suggesting the X may be discontinued due to "bad sales" of the phone thanks to the notch, while in fact it is one of the company's most successful products in terms of revenue.

The notch is a tank half empty or tank half full issue. For the majority they see it negatively as a tank half empty. With the notched Essential phone dropping in price from $699 to $399, iPhone X rumored to be discontinued due to bad sales, etc. the market will ultimately determine reality.

 

[Oohara]

I was not talking to the OP, but to a member suggesting the X may be discontinued due to "bad sales" of the phone thanks to the notch, while in fact it is one of the company's most successful products in terms of revenue.

Ah sorry I didn't see that post, which one is it?

Edit: sorry, strike that. I had the user on ignore. The rest of my comment above stands though.

 

[5105973]

I really wonder what the average age of people on here is. I find it genuinely amazing the things people find to complain about (about any brand phone). As a middle aged person... i grew up with no cell phones, carried change to use a pay phone.. then had cell phones that were nothing like what we got today. The progression has been extraordinary, and I wish people had the perspective to enjoy what they have. And they get better every year.

Jeez Gramps, next you’re going to tell me you remember you would enter a URL for a page, get up, make yourself a coffee, feed the dog and come sit back down as the last graphic was loading. Click on a link, get up, go to the bathroom, come back, page was still loading. Yeah yeah yeah, you old people are all alike. Compuserve this, AOL that, everyone wishing they were Matthew Broderick hacking some war computer, bragging about carrying around huge azz floppy disks you could eat a steak on. Chasing some stupid little white ball with huge paddles on a tv screen was all you old people had for video games. So what. I don’t care you old people were living like you were Amish and didn’t even have Velcro on your shoes when you were kids. Don’t tell me I can’t complain about no damn notch taking over the world!

@jamezr don’t tell him!

EDIT: adding a little disclaimer as I remembered joking does not always come across well on the internet—I’m pulling your leg. I’m not exactly Millennial material. And I don’t care one way or the other about the notch itself. I am irritated by companies jumping on bandwagons, especially if they do it half-azzedly. This notch thing is practically becoming a meme.

 

[jamezr]

I miss the % symbol but prefer not to carry around a brick, where's the big bezel brigade now? Can't have it both ways
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Umm you need to ask? Samsung

I prefer functionality to be honest. There were too many inconsistencies with the iphone X and I returned it. For pure ease of use and a better user experience I am keeping my iphone 8 plus. Sure the bezels are huge but it provides a better user experience and allows me to do what I need to do on a phone faster with less effort than the X

 

[Dodgeman]

I prefer functionality to be honest. There were too many inconsistencies with the iphone X and I returned it. For pure ease of use and a better user experience I am keeping my iphone 8 plus. Sure the bezels are huge but it provides a better user experience and allows me to do what I need to do on a phone faster with less effort than the X

Not only that but a new iphone is around the corner along with a new watch and supposedly itll be cheaper....

 

[spinedoc77]

Hey Doc, haven't seen you around these parts of late--nice to see you drop in.

Yeah I got a bit depressed with all the arguing, which I was guilty of as well. Just poking my head in here from time to time.
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I really wonder what the average age of people on here is. I find it genuinely amazing the things people find to complain about (about any brand phone). As a middle aged person... i grew up with no cell phones, carried change to use a pay phone.. then had cell phones that were nothing like what we got today. The progression has been extraordinary, and I wish people had the perspective to enjoy what they have. And they get better every year.

The biggest technological accomplishment in phones when I was a kid was that long, curly cord that allowed you to take your phone into another room!! You are absolutely correct, it's amazing what we all complain about when we have the incredible ability to have a supercomputer in the palm of a hand.

My only complaint is that now that I can enjoy such massive power, my eyes are failing and I can't read anything on them anymore!!

 

[1050792]

This looks like some mid to low end device.

I'm sure Samsung will release a mid end device with a notch to compete with iPhone X.

The high end devices use the Infinity Display, and there's no Infinity if theres a stupid notch ruining the whole experience.

So basically Samsung would waste time, money and resources to do an edge to edge foldable display at the chin just like an high end iPhone, for it's low/mid end devices that cost from $150-500? I don't think so. The future is edge to edge display and it shows and the only compromise is having the sensors in the middle of the display while keeping the important icons on the left and right side, or as we call it "Notch".

 

[Tsepz]

So basically Samsung would waste time, money and resources to do an edge to edge foldable display at the chin just like an high end iPhone, for it's low/mid end devices that cost from $150-500? I don't think so. The future is edge to edge display and it shows and the only compromise is having the sensors in the middle of the display while keeping the important icons on the left and right side, or as we call it "Notch".

They did it before.

Remember the Galaxy Alpha that ushered in the Metal frame?

This is not a foldable phone, and the rumour seems fake anyway.

Making a phone with a foldable display with notch makes absolutely no sense any way.

 

[1050792]

They did it before.

Remember the Galaxy Alpha that ushered in the Metal frame?

This is not a foldable phone, and the rumour seems fake anyway.

Making a phone with a foldable display with notch makes absolutely no sense any way.

I do, but remeber that the Alpha was more a preview of what Samsung would do on their next flagships like the Note 4 and Note Edge which came out after, so even if they start this in a mid end phone it's pretty sure it's coming on the next flagship.
About the foldable display I was refering to this

which needs to be done this way to make it edge to edge without a chin on the bottom.

 

[Tsepz]

I do, but remeber that the Alpha was more a preview of what Samsung would do on their next flagships like the Note 4 and Note Edge which came out after, so even if they start this in a mid end phone it's pretty sure it's coming on the next flagship.
About the foldable display I was refering to this

which needs to be done this way to make it edge to edge without a chin on the bottom.

As I said the rumour seems fake anyway, Infinity Display makes no sense when it's not Immersive, thanks to the notch.

 

[TC_GoldRush]

So basically Samsung would waste time, money and resources to do an edge to edge foldable display at the chin just like an high end iPhone, for it's low/mid end devices that cost from $150-500? I don't think so. The future is edge to edge display and it shows and the only compromise is having the sensors in the middle of the display while keeping the important icons on the left and right side, or as we call it "Notch".

Samsung will not have a notch. If it does, it will NOT be in their flagship models. Samsung has always strived to look and feel unique, so it wouldn't make sense for Samsung to jump on the notch band wagon.

 

[1050792]

As I said the rumour seems fake anyway, Infinity Display makes no sense when it's not Immersive, thanks to the notch.

Yeah I hope it's fake. It would be a very stupid thing of Samsung to embrace the Notch after they joked about it.