Apple could’ve alleviated a lot of the OLED issues people have with the display by just making it a higher 326ppi. Had to return mine due to obvious grain it was adding to photos or anything that was a medium shade especially grey.
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iPad Pro The Pros are worth it for the OLED alone
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What this entire saga tells me is that people have crummy eyes 🤣 All these OLED iPads have grain to some degree and half just don’t notice it. And that’s great for them. I too noticed text look less sharp as well like some weird noise pattern around the letters. Super faint but I saw it.
I think you’re hoping that other people had the issue because I’ve got individual Carl Zeiss lenses in my glasses on a new prescription and I cannot see any grain either on my OLED screen or with my readers on. HDR content on films looks great, but honestly, I wouldn’t buy it just for the panel. I’ve bought mine because my 2018 12.9” pro battery was exhausted.
Given the OLED screen on the iPads is being rated as one of (if not) the best screens available today of any device - to criticise it heavily I can only assume is based on an agenda against Apple or iPads.
Yeah, either 99% happy customers – and every single reviewer I have seen/read so far, all of whom are basically over the moon about the display – have „crummy eyes“, or you had a lemon. I know what sounds more probable to me.
Or this.
From what I have seen on here and elsewhere, it appears criticism is mostly based on iPadOS not being what the buyers expected (even though most knew ahead of time) in addition to people making impulse purchases.
I’m not sure what to say about the varying opinions on this display, except that everyone’s eyes and sensitivities are different. To my eyes, which granted are 54 years old (but I do have great glasses and see things sharply), this OLED is perfect. No complaints whatsoever. I have seen OLED grain on other displays, mainly my Dell 15” XPS, but do not on this display. Not unless I get a magnifying glass out.
Best advise is to go see one in a store before you buy.
Best advise is to go see one in a store before you buy.
You aren’t gonna see the grain on HDR content since it’s a movie (which has natural grain) and the brightness gets cranked up automatically for HDR movies. The grain issue is only apparent under 50 percent brightness in a dim or dark room….which is why so many claim to never see it.
Huge fan of nicer screens on all of my devices. They're something that they're so good that you don't notice it after using them for a short time; they just become so natural. But it makes it jarring when you go back to a device with a worse screen. It's the main reason I chose my M3 MBP over the MBA; the difference in screens was just so worth it for me.
Just got mine yesterday and I think it's going back. I have a 12.9 mini LED. The differences are small. And I'm getting eyestrain which I never get with the mini LED. Is it grain? I don't know. I feel like it could be the brightness. NO matter how I adjust settings or white point, it feels like it's either too harsh or too dim. I had a Samsung QLED TV a few years ago that had the same problem. The mini LED is perfect.
This is their first stab at tandem OLED. Maybe a very mature version of LCD like mini LED is better than a brand new version of OLED. Next generation--hopefully a different story. But I don't want to be a beta tester. I think I'm more than happy to keep my mini LED until the next one comes out. Kind of dissapointing as I've been looking forward to an OLED iPad for awhile. And it's not OLED flicker: my OLED iPhone, LG C2, and Dell XPS 15 don't give me any problems.
This is their first stab at tandem OLED. Maybe a very mature version of LCD like mini LED is better than a brand new version of OLED. Next generation--hopefully a different story. But I don't want to be a beta tester. I think I'm more than happy to keep my mini LED until the next one comes out. Kind of dissapointing as I've been looking forward to an OLED iPad for awhile. And it's not OLED flicker: my OLED iPhone, LG C2, and Dell XPS 15 don't give me any problems.
Dear god I know when the grain is meant to appear and it does not. I have looked at this every which way you can and in the lighting people had had issues with as well as I can replicate. I have no grain, my eyes are sharp my lenses are great and this screen is lovely. Not worth an upgrade if you have a recent iPad even for this Apple Intelligence (sorry that name makes me snigger) but nope my screen is fine, there are different manufacturers for these screens you either had bad luck or just have buyers remorse.
There is absolutely nothing „beta“ about these screens. But sure, if you‘re not happy, just return it.
That’s such a great point and sums up my experience with many of Apple’s enhancements over the years.
I opted for the 15” MBA after a year of owning the 16” MBP M1 Pro and eventually got used to the MBA screen - feeling that it was just as crisp, punchy, and vibrant. But ever since my work machine was upgraded to the MBP M3 Pro, I can’t unsee the quality drop-off when I come home to my personal machine.
Same goes for ProMotion, on Mac or on iPad, 60Hz feels fine until you come from using 120Hz for an extended period of time. Then the entire UX feels groggy, no matter the speed of the device.
As much as I am disappointed at WWDC’s lack of file management or multi-tasking improvements to iPadOS, the new screen in my 13” Pro keeps me happily using the device and confident it will be a top display for several years to come. I mean - where do they go from here? Even more brightness perhaps - though the tandem is plenty bright in all of my use cases.
Buying a S9 Ultra instead as it's back on sale right now for $1200CAD. 14.6" OLED screen with the pen included for $1200CAD. That's $600 cheaper than the M4 13" plus I get a larger screen and the pen is included.
Just goes to show how much of a rip off the M4 ipads are. I refuse to be ripped off.
Just goes to show how much of a rip off the M4 ipads are. I refuse to be ripped off.
It's currency exchange. The fact is, ipad M4 is overpriced period.
Next year Apple will come out with M5 and Quad OLED ipads, $2000USD!. Expect to see thousands of used M4 ipads resold for huge losses so everyone can upgrade their ipads again.
I've seen the M4 in person and I have no interest in having one. I wasn't impressed by it. Pay all that money for an ipad that I already have? The Samsung interests me much more especially for a lot less money.
Agreed! In the future we might get the incorporation of MLA tech, QDOLED, or maybe even the upcoming PHOLED advancements to OLED panel technology.
Are you sure Samsung interests you more? You sure seem to spend a lot of time posting here about how poor of a product the M4 iPads are. Now that you have an S9 Ultra, does this mean you’ll move over to a Samsung forum? 🙏
You do realize this entire website/forum is about Apple products right? So why are you spending time spouting to this audience about your preference for Samsung products? No one is interested. Seems like a massive waste of your time.
Well I'll give an update on my own experience with the OLED display on day 3 with the 13 inch. I think there is a simple solution to prevent eystrain: I have to turn the brightness VERY low. I'm light sensitive so that's part of it. So when I'm reading/web browsing it can't be set very high or I find it harsh. I guess this is to be expected as it's TWO displays stacked on top of each other.
BTW, how far are we going to go in the Brightness Wars? I'd say 1,000 nits standard brightness is far as we need to go? I'm almost worried displays will get so bright they could become unusable for some of us no matter the settings.
Also, when comparing this with my 12.9 mini LED, I have to say the black differences are a little overrated IMO. They are there, but how they display white is actually far more noticeable. The mini LED is a bit more of a pure white, the OLED is much more of an amber white. I noticed the same when I compared my 15 Pro Max--although that's actually slightly different in hue from the M4 iPad.
BTW, how far are we going to go in the Brightness Wars? I'd say 1,000 nits standard brightness is far as we need to go? I'm almost worried displays will get so bright they could become unusable for some of us no matter the settings.
Also, when comparing this with my 12.9 mini LED, I have to say the black differences are a little overrated IMO. They are there, but how they display white is actually far more noticeable. The mini LED is a bit more of a pure white, the OLED is much more of an amber white. I noticed the same when I compared my 15 Pro Max--although that's actually slightly different in hue from the M4 iPad.
iPads tank on resale, already here on FBM used for $3-400AUD off retail.
One I asked why selling said they like their laptop better.