Yeah uh...you use it briefly, and put it away before it overheats, which takes a considerable amount of time. This isn't complicated.
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iPad Pro The Pros are worth it for the OLED alone
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Yeah uh...you use it briefly, and put it away before it overheats, which takes a considerable amount of time. This isn't complicated.
sell it on ebay. here in Germany we have another service called rebuy which will buy back used electronics with no hassle. I just looked and you get like 100 bucks if it is in very good condition. as they are still compatible with iPad Air, selling them won‘t be a problem I assume.
You say it isn't complicated, and in the same breath say "infinitely usable" means "you put it away after a bit to cool it down". OK, you win, I'm not arguing with you.
I don’t know what you mean by that? I’ve read this several times and don’t understand.
Of course the market decides and in all categories the more cost effective products have wider appeal. That’s not a new thing and it’s driven by what the market decides is the most competitive product for the price.
Disingenuous? It’s exactly what I use my iPad for and I was open and honest about that. Do you think I really use my iPad as my laptop and am making all this up or something?
Casual users on the whole do not spend £1500 on an iPad for consumption, some do, most absolutely do not. The proof of that is in the existence of standard iPads and Airs which sell very well.
My opinion is if Apple was aiming the Pro iPads at casual, none productive users, they certainly would have priced it competitively. They haven’t and have kept the price higher than some MacBooks, hence the selective audience they are going for.
No I don't. I can tell from watching the YouTube videos that it's not noticeable enough for me to justify the upgrade. I'm not willing to pay close to $2, 000CAD for a slightly brighter screen. That's after I factor in the new pencil and having to rebuy my keyboard case again. It's just a waste of money.
I don't really care for OLED on my iPad since I don't watch movies on it. My main phone is OLED and better than the M4 iPad as it goes up to 1750 nits. But I also never spent anything close to $2,000 on it. I have better screens than the M4 iPad at home. And my phone is better quality too.
If I was to buy a new iPad today I would go for the new air. 60% of the cost of the M4. And you get 95% of it. Much better value. There's already a bunch of YouTube videos who are covering this same topic that the new air is a much better value. I can't get over the huge price difference between the air and the pro this gen.
Plus I would rather have regular LCD because no risk of burn in and you get a much longer shelf life. I don't want to be having to worry just after your warranty expires that your OLED panels on your new M4 burned in.
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you said it's not usable in the sun it is, if you don't have one you can't comment on that
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re burn in your phone will get to then if you believe that
That’s not really a valid argument. Especially in 2024 where everyone including Apple is encouraging using credit cards or buy now, pay later schemes. Most can’t truly afford apple products along with lots of other stuff. The amount of people maxed out or in default on their credit cards is the highest in over a decade. People have been living off cards since inflation started running rampant.
I'm reading on Reddit that there's no way to manually set your brightness on M4 iPad. So you can't manually set when you want it to be at 1000 nits. Well then what's the point of having it?
And if it auto dims like any iPhone does when it gets hot, then it completely eliminates the benefit of having a 1000 nit screen.
And even those who "truly can" afford it might just not think the OLED screen is worth an extra $400. I haven't paid a dime of credit card interest in at least 15 years. I am quite familiar with Apple products and have a pretty good idea what to expect from them so I read the specs on the new iPads and ordered the 11" M2 Air. I checked out the new Pros at the Apple store last week and felt no remorse. Did I fail to perform some action that might have convinced me otherwise? Maybe. Does it matter? No. It feels a bit indulgent to have an iPad at all when I already have a Mac, iPhone, Watch, and PC laptop. Can I afford to "overpay" $400 for a new iPad and get maybe half that back in perceived marginal utility? Yes I can. I even do overpay sometimes--such as on the Studio Display that I feel is overpriced but just has no real viable substitute, and darn it, I just plain wanted the thing badly enough to pay $1600 for it.
But I also believe that our spending habits have a huge cumulative effect in the long run, and being in the habit of not spending more than I "need" (in quotes because I actually don't "need" an iPad at all) will save me $400 here, $200 there, etc. and result in an earlier retirement.
I understand that it's implicit that virtually everything being said here is an opinion, we don't need to add "IMO" to every statement and I really don't mind if someone says they don't understand how some people can't appreciate a $400 OLED upgrade as "worth it." But it crosses the line to say that everyone who says they don't think it's worth it is really just jealous that they can't afford it. In my corner of the culture, people like that are considered insecure jerks who need to knock others just to feel better about themselves.
Given that you took the time to reply, I’d say my message found it’s mark.
Seriously, this is for once “The Best iPad Ever.” The OLED argument has been had for ages with monitors, phone screens, Nintendo Switch, SteamDeck, etc….those who really value the best screens go OLED. Those who are OK with good, but not the best, screens don’t.
My first OLED device was 8 years ago, Well before OLED even become affordable for most people. So i'm very familiar with OLED. Yes it's the best picture possible but it still has issues.
That one device I had eventually had burn in, just after the warranty expired. The device all of a sudden became worthless, as in worth almost nothing because of the defect. I literally had to sell it for peanuts.
Burn in on OLED is still a concern. Give it some time after the M4 iPad honeymoon passes. In a year's time or less, we will hear all about people who have the M4 iPads and spent thousands and thousands of dollars on it. Only to have burn in and their device is out of warranty.
Try selling any display device with burn in, I wouldn't want to be one of those people again. You get almost next to nothing for it. I've been in those shoes before and I'm not willing to risk wasting money again. I'm willing to pay for a much brighter screen but not an OLED screen.
Especially on a device that is one already overpriced and two something I don't need. Whereas regular LED tech is bulletproof at this point. That would explain why none of my computer monitors or my laptops or TVs are OLED. And I have over 10 display devices.
And again if I was to buy a new iPad today, I would either get the new air. Or I would get the M2 iPad pro mini LED and save a good chunk of money.
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Every new iPad Pro is literally always the best iPad ever.
Very true points. I feel guilty even having spent $700 on my last iPad upgrade even after trade in….this time it would be about $1000 because I need to buy all new pencil and cover. if I did the keyboard too make that an extra $1300…..after $470 trade in…. 😒
OLED has gotten a lot better. In Rtings' longevity test, LCDs actually fare worse so far:
Longevity And Burn-In Investigation: 10-Month Results
It has been about ten months since we started our long-term accelerated longevity and burn-in test, and our 100+ TVs and monitors have cumulated over 500,000 hours of runtime.
www.rtings.com
You reducing down the consumption side of iPad to ”watching YouTube” is disingenuous, yes.
Imagine actually saying this in 2024 when Apple has shipped hundreds of millions (billions now?) iPhones and Apple Watches with OLED.
Anyone else oscillating between getting a cheapo base Air (13”) and a souped up, 1TB nano texture device, maybe with cellular?
I have an m2 MacBook Air. If I have serious work, I’m going to use that at home. I’m a radiologist, so at work I have a triple monitor display PC that I have to use anyway. The iPad would just be a secondary screen, for fun and to read journal articles (is what I will tell myself) but actually mostly to browse the internet, Netflix on trips. I hope to be able to ditch my laptop on international trips.
I saw it side by side. The air looked choppy when scrolling but in isolation I think it would be fine. Sometimes I feel like I missed out by not getting a MBP when I got my laptop last year - I’m always reaching to increase the brightness and I feel like things aren’t as crisp as they could be. However, this is just a secondary screen for casual use around the house and on planes… so does it matter?
Re cellular: meh… would be nice to have. Would be nice to not be under the sneaky eyes of my hospital WiFi at work.
Someone help me out 😅
I have an m2 MacBook Air. If I have serious work, I’m going to use that at home. I’m a radiologist, so at work I have a triple monitor display PC that I have to use anyway. The iPad would just be a secondary screen, for fun and to read journal articles (is what I will tell myself) but actually mostly to browse the internet, Netflix on trips. I hope to be able to ditch my laptop on international trips.
I saw it side by side. The air looked choppy when scrolling but in isolation I think it would be fine. Sometimes I feel like I missed out by not getting a MBP when I got my laptop last year - I’m always reaching to increase the brightness and I feel like things aren’t as crisp as they could be. However, this is just a secondary screen for casual use around the house and on planes… so does it matter?
Re cellular: meh… would be nice to have. Would be nice to not be under the sneaky eyes of my hospital WiFi at work.
Someone help me out 😅
My Apple Watch Series 5 had very noticeable burn in after about 2 years….