iPad Pro The Pros are worth it for the OLED alone

[ManuCH]

lol the OLED is a very minor upgrade at best. Many on here have already claimed it to be minor. But keep trying to justify your purchase. Why would anyone be jealous in you having a product that isn't much better than what they already have?

Definitely not a minor upgrade. It's the biggest upgrade the iPad Pro got since 2018. The OLED and the new keyboard are 2 things alone that had me sold instantly, and I am very happy with my choice. This new iPad is so much more fun to use. And this is without even taking the new M4 and all the other small details into consideration.

I use the iPad a lot on public transport and the sun shines in all the time. I already saw it those last 2 days: the screen is so much brighter, it makes a huge difference!

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

YouTube 4k looks incredible on the OLED tho. That’s the thing about this release, even the most casual of users could benefit from the higher model. This wasn’t a year where all they did was just upgrade the chip for pro users.

Not saying the Airs or older models are a bad choice, or that everyone should feel compelled to get the Pro, but even just ”emails and YouTube” folks who want and can afford the Pro could totally be making a rational choice going for the higher model.

Well I’m not paying well over a grand for slightly better picture quality for watching videos when the Air is already excellent for picture quality. If the Pro was aimed at casual users then it would have been priced competitively. It doesn’t even compete against my Air for what I am getting for the price so I’m happy to save the extra £1k. I use my iPad just for basic browsing and watching YouTube and Netflix, I don’t need an excellent quality OLED screen for that thanks.

 

[aurora_sect]

I would rather watch video on my 27" 60 Hz non Promotion OLED Studio Display. Or my 64" 4K TV that I have been using happily with an old TV HD since 2016. It only barely occurred to me that some things might look better if I got TV 4K. Size matters to me. Subtle picture distinctions do not. On the other hand, I am very picky about sound quality and I would never use any iPad for serious listening.

It's almost like different people have different preferences and priorities. No need to dismiss their choices as "garbage," or some indication that they just can't afford the good stuff.

I checked out the new M4 in person the other day after using my new M2 Air for a couple days and my impression was that it is a little bit better and a lot more expensive.

That's not an argument that the Air is better for everyone. I don't need to convince anyone that what is best for me is best for them, too. I'm not here to show off how smart or affluent I am, I just like Apple products and enjoy discussing them. I'm just one drop in the opinion bucket just like everyone else here, and my opinion plus $1k will get you a new M4 IPP.

 

[th1nk]

Well I’m not paying well over a grand for slightly better picture quality for watching videos when the Air is already excellent for picture quality. If the Pro was aimed at casual users then it would have been priced competitively. It doesn’t even compete against my Air for what I am getting for the price so I’m happy to save the extra £1k. I use my iPad just for basic browsing and watching YouTube and Netflix, I don’t need an excellent quality OLED screen for that thanks.

You have lower standards with regard to image quality and that is totally okay. Personally I have looked forward to an OLED iPad with perfect blacks and no blooming since I got my first OLED TV like 7 years ago.

For me, the most important part of the iPad is the screen and using this one is just pure bliss. For the first time owning iPads starting from the very first iPad Air in 2013 I am utterly and completely happy with the screen and the hardware in general. I see no reason to upgrade this device unless Apple introduces glasses-free 3D screens at some point.

So yeah, if you are a sucker for image quality, this iPad is worth the money for the screen alone. I plan on using this thing every day for the next 5+ years so having the best possible screen is a huge upgrade.

I agree that in daylight the screens might look similar at first glance but as soon as the sun goes down or you dim the lights the qualities of the OLED truly shine through. The contrast is just *chef kiss*!

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

You have lower standards with regard to image quality and that is totally okay. Personally I have looked forward to an OLED iPad with perfect blacks and no blooming since I got my first OLED TV like 7 years ago.

For me, the most important part of the iPad is the screen and using this one is just pure bliss. For the first time owning iPads starting from the very first iPad Air in 2013 I am utterly and completely happy with the screen and the hardware in general. I see no reason to upgrade this device unless Apple introduces glasses-free 3D screens at some point.

So yeah, if you are a sucker for image quality, this iPad is worth the money for the screen alone. I plan on using this thing every day for the next 5+ years so having the best possible screen is a huge upgrade.

I agree that in daylight the screens might look similar at first glance but as soon as the sun goes down or you dim the lights the qualities of the OLED truly shine through. The contrast is just *chef kiss*!

I’d be happy with an OLED iPad if it was standard like it now is on iPhone but the Pro iPads cost more than any TV I have ever bought. I just don’t see the value in it personally as I’m a basic user anyway. The screen quality on my Air 4th gen is crisp and high definition enough for my uses and I don’t think iPad Pros are aimed at basic users tbh. It’s not that I have lower standards when judging picture quality, I just remain realistic as to what I deem as important and cost effective. I’m lucky enough to buy what I like unlike many who are constrained by budget.

 

[nikikaly21]

Well I’m not paying well over a grand for slightly better picture quality for watching videos when the Air is already excellent for picture quality. If the Pro was aimed at casual users then it would have been priced competitively. It doesn’t even compete against my Air for what I am getting for the price so I’m happy to save the extra £1k. I use my iPad just for basic browsing and watching YouTube and Netflix, I don’t need an excellent quality OLED screen for that thanks.

Totally fine, but Apple is the wealthiest company in the world with the wealthiest customer base. And any casual user with the $ who wants to spend it on the Pro is making a good choice.

Thats my argument: I’m not saying you particularly are making a bad choice saving money going for the Air, I’m saying anyone that can spend $ on the Pro (read: majority of Apples customer base), can rationally choose the Pro, even if they’re a hyper-casual user. That has NOT been the case with previous releases, last gens, or with Air to Pro jumps as no iPad Pro has been as overwhelmingly good as the 2024 model.

Conclusion: the new awesome features are so ubiquitous that it has something to appeal to anyone with the disposable income who wants one, being a Pro or nonpro is irrelevant.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Totally fine, but Apple is the wealthiest company in the world with the wealthiest customer base. And any casual user with the $ who wants to spend it on the Pro is making a good choice.

Thats my argument: I’m not saying you particularly are making a bad choice saving money going for the Air, I’m saying anyone that can spend $ on the Pro (read: majority of Apples customer base), can rationally choose the Pro, even if they’re a hyper-casual user. That has NOT been the case with previous releases, last gens, or with Air to Pro jumps as no iPad Pro has been as overwhelmingly good as the 2024 model.

Conclusion: the new awesome features are so ubiquitous that it has something to appeal to anyone with the disposable income who wants one, being a Pro or nonpro is irrelevant.

I could more than afford an iPad Pro mate, I have a very good salary, I just don’t see the worth in this particular purchase. Where I drive a nice car and own a nice house, others may prioritise other types of purchases. I buy what I enjoy, rather than worry about making Apple richer or comparing myself against other Apple consumers who are anonymous to me anyway.

The snobby misconception on this forum is often if someone criticises a product or suggests they don’t want it, they somehow ‘can’t afford it’. That’s a dreadfully inaccurate generalisation that is proven incorrect time and time again.

 

[nikikaly21]

I could more than afford an iPad Pro mate, I have a very good salary, I just don’t see the worth in this particular purchase. Where I drive a nice car and own a nice house, others may prioritise other types of purchases. I buy what I enjoy, rather than worry about making Apple richer or comparing myself against other Apple consumers who are anonymous to me anyway.

The snobby misconception on this forum is often if someone criticises a product or suggests they don’t want it, they somehow ‘can’t afford it’. That’s a dreadfully inaccurate generalisation that is proven incorrect time and time again.

That goes both ways when you say there’s no reason to choose the Pro over the air and then use price as a reason.

 

[snipr125]

Just really annoying that you cant use the M4 IPP on the ’previous gen’ magic keyboard. I would have seriously considered it to replace my iPad Air 4. Also very strange that you cant use the new MK on previous gen 11” iPP or Airs, meaning Apple lose out on a lot of potential sales. Think how many iPP 2018, 2020, 2022 and iPad Air 4 and 5 owner who are out there (many).

 

[aurora_sect]

when you say there’s no reason to choose the Pro over the air.

I don't see where they said that. Seems like the posts are pretty clearly framed as personal preference whereas a lot of posters here very explicitly denigrate the choices of others.

 

[Romain_H]

Can anyone comment on the display in direct sunlight?

 

[Cirillo Gherardo]

Do you really need to project this sort of affluence-centered disdain on people who choose differently than you? Are you really that insecure?

Considering most of the criticisms of this product and this specific release are the most desperate, pathetic, reaching comments of all time...yes, my assessment is 100% on target.

 

[nikikaly21]

I don't see where they said that. Seems like the posts are pretty clearly framed as personal preference whereas a lot of posters here very explicitly denigrate the choices of others.

“If the Pro was aimed at casual users then it would have been priced competitively“ is an objective statement not speaking about personal preferences. I’ve been clear from the start that anyone who wants an Air is not making a bad choice, but unlike in previous years, anyone choosing this 2024 Pro model instead can be making a good choice because the upgrades are more than pro and computational ones. Oh, just like the title of my thread!

 

[Cirillo Gherardo]

It’s not really worth a grand and a half for those just watching YouTube videos and browsing the web on though.

1. That's not up to you. That's for the market to decide.
2. That's a ridiculous and disingenuous exaggeration of how this device is used, even if it is "just" a consumption device.

 

[aurora_sect]

the most desperate, pathetic, reaching comments of all time..

Funny, that's how your post came across to me. Agree to disagree, I suppose.

 

[rkuo]

Most of that is just your opinion, but 2000 nits brightness? LOL, and watch it start on fire and have half an hour battery life. The iPhone does the same 1000/1600, and it's infinitely usable in the brightest sunlight. When it goes to 2000, it gets very hot, Imagine an iPad doing that.

And a case still means it's 1/5 of a pound lighter. So your point is meaningless.

The iPhone is not "infinitely usable" in the brightest sunlight. It overheats extremely quickly and has to dim itself, sometimes to the point of unusability.

 

[Cirillo Gherardo]

The lightness issues are also moot for many people who end up buying a case.

What a ridiculous statement. The overall weight of device + case is still less. In fact it's even MORE important that they make the device as light as possible for people who will inevitably use a case.

And in case it wasn't already clear in this thread, the weight of the 13" iPad Pro is so impressive that's a literal wow moment for anyone who has used an iPad over the last 15 years.

 

[aurora_sect]

“If the Pro was aimed at casual users then it would have been priced competitively“ is an objective statement not speaking about personal preferences.

Well, fair enough but I don't really read that as a jab at anyone in particular.

 

[Cirillo Gherardo]

The iPhone is not "infinitely usable" in the brightest sunlight. It overheats extremely quickly and has to dim itself, sometimes to the point of unusability.

Bright sunlight does not cause that. Extended exposure to heat does. These are not the same thing. I regularly use my iPhone in "bright sunlight" and never leave it out in the heat long enough to trigger protection features.

 

[Cirillo Gherardo]

Funny, that's how your post came across to me. Agree to disagree, I suppose.

No, I'm not agreeing with you on anything.

 

[klasma]

Just really annoying that you cant use the M4 IPP on the ’previous gen’ magic keyboard. I would have seriously considered it to replace my iPad Air 4. Also very strange that you cant use the new MK on previous gen 11” iPP or Airs, meaning Apple lose out on a lot of potential sales. Think how many iPP 2018, 2020, 2022 and iPad Air 4 and 5 owner who are out there (many).

The landscape camera required modifying the magnets layout, and the frame sizes changed a bit. That’s why they aren’t compatible.

 

[ManuCH]

Can anyone comment on the display in direct sunlight?

Yes. I have used my 11" M4 Pro in direct sunlight over the last 2 days and it really does get very bright. It gets brighter than max brightness somehow and the screen remains very well readable. A noticeable improvement over the M1 for sure.

 

[rkuo]

Bright sunlight does not cause that. Extended exposure to heat does. These are not the same thing. I regularly use my iPhone in "bright sunlight" and never leave it out in the heat long enough to trigger protection features.

Uh OK. Let us all know when you figure out a way to infinitely use your phone in bright sunlight without generating/absorbing lots of heat. I won't hold my breath.

 

[Rafterman]

Uh OK. Let us all know when you figure out a way to infinitely use your phone in bright sunlight without generating/absorbing lots of heat. I won't hold my breath.

There is a point to that. In order to activate 2000 nits, you need to be in sunlight, which will also heat the phone. If you go into shade, the phone cools, but it also doesn't need 2000 nits in the shade. Can't really have one without the other.

 

[profH]

Just really annoying that you cant use the M4 IPP on the ’previous gen’ magic keyboard. I would have seriously considered it to replace my iPad Air 4. Also very strange that you cant use the new MK on previous gen 11” iPP or Airs, meaning Apple lose out on a lot of potential sales. Think how many iPP 2018, 2020, 2022 and iPad Air 4 and 5 owner who are out there (many).

I get that tech updates, but they could throw us a bone and give us like 50 bucks to recycle our old MKB's if we are specifically buying an upgrade replacement; these sucks are 350 bucks worth of useless metal and plastic