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iPad Pro The Pros are worth it for the OLED alone
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I am coming from a 12z 11 inch, and the OLED is brilliant. Having them side by side, it’s clear to me the improvements in contrast, blacks and brightness. I love watching movies in the dark before bed, and that’s when the screen really shows its worth. I haven’t really tested it out in the sun to confirm if it’s any better, but I am sure it is.
i would certainly say this has been an amazing update.
i would certainly say this has been an amazing update.
The whole package is just about perfect now. The MK is a huge upgrade for me versus the older one. The OLED screen is unreal, even in sunlight. I had the 2022 M2 12.9” and even while doing the xfer of data I could tell what a MASSIVE upgrade the 2024 M4 was with this screen. Those who can’t see it likely just don’t have the eyes to appreciate it or are flat out just being jelly/salty.
lol the OLED is a very minor upgrade at best. Many on here have already claimed it to be minor. But keep trying to justify your purchase. Why would anyone be jealous in you having a product that isn't much better than what they already have?
OLED. Improved keyboard. Long edge camera. New pencil. Thinner and 1/5 of a pound lighter. 1000 nits standard brightness (still 1600 HDR). 11 brought up to same specs as the 13. And of course, M4. And finally the ability to charge to 80 percent to conserve battery life.
Not minor at all.
Improved keyboard = The new keyboard is what last gens keyboard should have been. You have to re-buy it. It has the same poor quality fabric on the outside that will start ripping. Give it a few months and complaints will be coming out when peoples $400 keyboard starts deteriorating.
Long edge camera. = Couldn't care less about it.
New pencil.= The 2nd gen pencil works perfectly fine. Couldn't care less about the new pencil or the haptic feedback.
Thinner and 1/5 of a pound lighter. = The benefit is diminished once you put a case on it. Im guessing most are going to use the M4 ipad with no case?
1000 nits standard brightness (still 1600 HDR). = This is the only benefit I see. Even then at 1000nits, it's still not usable in bright sunlight, so whats the point? Should be 2000nits minimum.
And finally the ability to charge to 80 percent to conserve battery life.= Hardly a worthwhile feature, should have been in there years ago. This is a software locked feature, not hardware.
Also, the M4 has much worse speakers, grainy screen issues as stated on here and the battery life is marginally better.
I am coming from the iPad Air 5th gen. I did a side by side comparison and most things are not that significantly better. When looking at SDR and light content, they are not that different. It is when you have blacks/dark areas and HDR quality where I really notice it. In those instances, it really is amazing. Is it worth the upgrade? Probably not but I am going to keep it because now that I have seen it, it is hard to unsee. I use my iPad to watch almost everything. I also love facetime over touchID. I also didn't expect to notice much of a difference in the screen size but it is more than I expected and is a welcome addition.
Judging from your large number of posts trashing the new iPads and the people who like them, it probably isn't the device for you.
Really great on my 11 Pro. Can use it and get to every key while holding it with low effort.
Also is assuming everyone has an immediate last-gen iPad. I haven't had one in 4+ years (which I returned after two months) and was never really impressed with 2018 and M-series Pro models.
Entry point considerations can be something people on Apple-heavy forums frequently forget, because the conversations turn solely to an "upgrade or not" focus. I bought the original iPad 2 on release 12 years ago. Never felt compelled to buy one again until this model. Not everyone is looking to upgrade from 1-year-old models!
While I agree that the screens are STUNNING, I'm going to hold off until WWDC to see what Apple does with iPadOS because a device used primarily for content consumption isn't worth $1000+ to me, especially considering the peripherals that make the device "pro" aren't even included at that already egregious price. I know artists and designers use these for much more than that, and it's definitely worth it for them, but to the average consumer like me... not so much.
But that’s also why the base iPad, mini and Air exist I suppose.
But that’s also why the base iPad, mini and Air exist I suppose.
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Most of that is just your opinion, but 2000 nits brightness? LOL, and watch it start on fire and have half an hour battery life. The iPhone does the same 1000/1600, and it's infinitely usable in the brightest sunlight. When it goes to 2000, it gets very hot, Imagine an iPad doing that.
And a case still means it's 1/5 of a pound lighter. So your point is meaningless.
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Correct, I agree. People, on this forum and many others, complain endlessly about "iterative" releases and "releasing the same product year after year" and then Apple literally releases an iPad model that's better in almost every way (screen, form, chassis design, M4 chip, upgrading everything but the speakers) and people STILL complain. You can't win.
Fact is: if you've been wanting an iPad Pro for a while, this is the release to jump in. No question. If you currently have one, the trade-in and upgrade is worth it IF you want to spend the $, that's it.
It's just pure jealousy. The new iPad Pro is phenomenal in every way, and I've already gotten a ton of use out of it, as a secondary work machine and full time fun machine. There isn't anyone anywhere that wouldn't want to use this product. Just lots that can't afford it.
Because they have highly optimized supply chains for preexisting manufacturing and parts, saving them countless $$$ than if they were to do major changes to a product line outright
The 13" Pro is 25% lighter, that can be noticable. But the 11" Pro is 11% lighter than the previous gen M1. Hardly an improvement worth buying for. Unless you carry both gens around in each hand and are looking for it, you won't notice any benefit. I guess less arm strain?
Phones are brighter than 1000nits now, how is that not possible in a much larger ipad? Unless it's an iphone, your phone won't overheat. My Samsung phone from 2018 had more than 1000nits brightness and used much more than any ipad and it never overheated. But Apple will come out with 2000nits on the 2028 model ipad pro and will be charging $2500USD for it. Groundbreaking feature!
you really are on a mission to prove to yourself you made the right decision and everyone else made a wrong decision upgrading huh?
I don't get that point. if you buy the same case model for an M2 vs an M4, you are still saving the extra .2 pounds of the iPad. And the case is also probably a hair lighter, as there is less material needed in the case, due to the iPad getting thinner.
It’s not really worth a grand and a half for those just watching YouTube videos and browsing the web on though. Those sorts of people saying it’s not worth it to them aren’t jealous, just realistic. The Pro is a productivity device and aimed at a different audience to the general iPads, but this thread asks the question in a general sense, hence why many different people contribute with their own answers. I’m willing to guess a lot of people could afford it if they saw the worth, but choose not to.
Yes it’s really noticeable . We have two of the 11 inch M1s and a 12.9 m1 and a 13 M4. You’ll see the most difference in a dark or pitch black room
The difference between the 11 inch m1 and the 12.9 miniled was already significant . The jump to Oled is an even bigger gap . I honestly think that the miniled and the Oled perform relatively similar , with the Oled edging out due to lack of any blooming a some additional brightness
Do you really need to project this sort of affluence-centered disdain on people who choose differently than you? Are you really that insecure?
True.
I have a case on all my iPads anyway. The 0.2 lbs weight savings means instead of carrying 1.7 lb 13” iPad with case, that’s now down to 1.5 lb.
I’m not upgrading since OLED is not for me. However, the weight loss is still something I appreciate. Indeed, I’m praying the FaceID and nano texture makes its way to future gen 1.36 lb 13” iPad Airs. Oh well, I can dream.
YouTube 4k looks incredible on the OLED tho. That’s the thing about this release, even the most casual of users could benefit from the higher model. This wasn’t a year where all they did was just upgrade the chip for pro users.
Not saying the Airs or older models are a bad choice, or that everyone should feel compelled to get the Pro, but even just ”emails and YouTube” folks who want and can afford the Pro could totally be making a rational choice going for the higher model.
The best case is Apple Care+ - haven’t worked at Apple Retail for three years but I still happily drink that kool aid cause cases are fugly