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Shirasaki

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Shirasaki

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My M1 Pro screen still looks great… Sure oled is nice but not worth it just to upgrade for that… It’s still just an iPad plus the new pros have worse speakers compared to the M1 and M2 pros.
Probably because of the iPad being thinner. If I want to listen to something serious with speaker tho, I just use my MacBook Pro. Better speaker than iPad every day.
 

aakshey

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Have had it for two days and there's really no understating how great the screen looks like.

Spouse and I have been joking it feels like "the opposite of a 3D screen" cause you feel like you could literally jump or fall into the screen as if it were a portal.

It's worth it for the display alone, never mind the form factor, weight or new M4 chip.

My first iPad was the og iPad 2 and haven't had one at all since pre-pandemic, but so glad I jumped back in. I love the new iPad Pro.
True story
The M1 to M4 doesn’t even make a difference in regular everyday usage since the M1 is also super snappy, unless you’re using high end apps or gaming, then of course M4 is M4

But the display is the real deal for sure
 
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aakshey

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Which means Apple has an even harder time to convince you to upgrade to later models.
Not really, Apple has never failed to disappoint so far

The only Pro that wasn’t huge was A12X to A12Z, and yes also the transition from M1 to M2
Buy 2 and let’s play Portal together. 😛

Will Apple have the courage to triple the iPad mini price so OLED can be fitted in? I am not sure.
When was Portal launched on iOS?
 
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aakshey

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Probably because of the iPad being thinner. If I want to listen to something serious with speaker tho, I just use my MacBook Pro. Better speaker than iPad every day.
For what’s it’s worth I have the MBA M1, and all my iPad Pros and now my iPhone Pro Max have much better in built speakers than my MBA, also louder in fact
 

Zest28

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The OLED was the reason I upgraded from M1 11 inch to 13inch M4. It’s really something spectacular. For watching and reading media, it cant be beaten.

How is the 13" coming from an 11"?

I got a M1 12.9 iPad Pro (mini-LED) and thinking of buying the 11" M4 iPad Pro.
 

ApplesAreSweet&Sour

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Not really, Apple has never failed to disappoint so far

The only Pro that wasn’t huge was A12X to A12Z, and yes also the transition from M1 to M2

When was Portal launched on iOS?
Without the amazing display, iPads Pro M4 would be no more an upgrade that your average new iPad.

As always, it's genuinely very impressive on the surface level. But really doesn't add much to any part of the user experience than those that concern content consumption.

iPadOS still doesn't get the basics right despite Apple comparing it to Windows laptops and giving it several of its famous and beloved pro-level applications.


If iPad was no more than a consumption device then Apple should have kept its pro apps off it, no thunderbolt port, no fancy keyboards, no high-end SoCs, and lowered the price.

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Reading marketing like this from Apple, I refuse this "don't like iPadOS? want macOS on it? then iPad is not for you!" argument that I keep hearing from iPad's biggest defenders.

Apple in no uncertain terms has marketed iPad Pro as this multi-functional device that ads tools and versatility to any professional's workflow.

But have you used apps like "Files"? Tried to setup complex audio workflows that are a breeze on even the cheapest M1 or Intel Mac mini? Tried Stage Manager? Used Safari? Used Shortcuts?

All of it senselessly limited on iPadOS by comparison to what you get on macOS.

No, I'm not talking about putting macOS on iPad. That's never going to happen. Completely hypothetical.

I'm just talking about having the few things Apple does let us do on iPad not be huge compromises by comparison to how you'd do them on a Mac.

With a device so limited, at least let it do the few things it does so well that the user doesn't have to weight the pros and cons on doing a given task on Mac or on iPad.

Don't give us something like Final Cut on both Mac and iPad if they are not equivalents in every way and synced 1/1 at all times.

The disparity between what iPadOS and its made by Apple apps offer and what macOS and its made by Apple apps offer is not what I pay Apple taxes for.
 
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nikikaly21

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True story
The M1 to M4 doesn’t even make a difference in regular everyday usage since the M1 is also super snappy, unless you’re using high end apps or gaming, then of course M4 is M4

But the display is the real deal for sure
I love the M4 cause now I can play Divinity 2 Original Sin on the road with the OLED!
 

Shirasaki

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Totally incredible to be able to play such a vast RPG with my fingers in a top tier OLED screen. Supreme experience indeed.
All of those praises on this iPad’s OLED entices me more and more.
My wallet is crying for help lol, despite I am already using M1 iPad Pro.
 

jazz1

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Just got back from store with 13” 512gb silver to upgrade from 2018 12.9. Wow I didn’t know what I was missing watching those demos videos. Everything is so smooth navigating around. 👍
While I didn't really feel my M1 12.9" iPad Pro's screen was lacking, I have to say after several days I'm glad I purchase the M4 with the screen upgrade. I did give it several days to make sure I wasn't imagining what IMHO is an improvement. I might add the other "improvements" both technical and physical (new thinner body and Magic Keyboard) were worth it for me.

On the other hand I do know I could have easily kept the M1, and spent a lot loose money on a MacBook Air. Unfortunately for me my spouse accompanied me to the Apple Store for pick up and got the low down on the cost of the M4 with Magic Keyboard!:eek: Well I surmise 4 days in with the M4, it was worth the brow beating!!!
 

AdamSeen

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How is the 13" coming from an 11"?

I got a M1 12.9 iPad Pro (mini-LED) and thinking of buying the 11" M4 iPad Pro.

I really like the 13, prefer it for my use case. Which is hybrid laptop for writing, reading (online/newspaper), sketching, and consuming media.

The main disadvantage I’ve found to the 13inch has compared to the 11, is portrait mode is far more natural on the 11 inch. It just works a lot better, whereas the 13 inch landscape feels like the most natural orientation for it, with a keyboard attached.
 

NeonNights

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Just saw the new OLED IPP 13 in person and it was very hard to notice any marked improvement over my M1 IPP 12.9. I don't know what people are smoking when they claim significant improvement over MiniLED. To me, it was not night and day and I had to look hard to spot differences.

Side-by-side, with full brightness on both iPads, the OLED had very slightly better saturation. The OLED did look crisper in some scenes and I think that's due to the faster response time as the M1 12.9 would blur slightly in comparison.

At first the weight reduction felt impressive for the M4 IPP 13, but then I took my M1 12.9 out of its cover and the weight difference wasn't substantial.

At least I saw for myself it wasn't worth the upgrade. I ended up trading in my M1 12.9 and a 2015 MBP 13 for some gift cards towards future tech I'll want/need.

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Surfsalot

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What made you change your mind?
I am still flip flopping lol

Honestly everything about it is better except the speakers on the 11" v my M1
colours
text
lighter
speed

If do will just get the folio case and return the keyboard, it's chipped anyway.
 
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