The "PS3Media Server" Thread (program)

[DoFoT9]

So it's got plenty of power left over but it still doesn't transcode far enough ahead to not stutter on the PS3? Or does it play fine?

its a very odd scenario. and ive yet to figure out what it is yet, but there are a lot of other factors. CPU rank, RAM usage, I/O rate etc.. it all comes into play

Lets just say it's ripped from a BR. Why don't they play? Does the ps3 just refuse the format or does ps3ms not like how you encoded it?

in my experience, all the online BDs i have downloaded (from legit and other sources) have been converted into a format suitable for the PS3 to play. (normally into h264+AC3)

its my direct rips that present the problem - they are mostly VC-1 + DTS/DD. and PS3MS just doesnt seem to be able to transcode it into something usable. apparently its the audio, but VC-1 isnt supported by the PS3 either..

 

[sammich]

in my experience, all the online BDs i have downloaded (from legit and other sources) have been converted into a format suitable for the PS3 to play. (normally into h264+AC3)

Hmm, my files are untouched, so whatever they are in (DTS/AC3, always H.264). They work no problem. I only convert to AC3 when I want to copy the video onto the PS3's drive. MS converts all audio to AC3 anyway.

its my direct rips that present the problem - they are mostly VC-1 + DTS/DD. and PS3MS just doesnt seem to be able to transcode it into something usable. apparently its the audio, but VC-1 isnt supported by the PS3 either..

Why don't you convert the video to H.264 from the beginning?

 

[MecPro]

I think there are a large amount of people in this thread who say they "rip their on BR" when they really mean they download it, so re-encoding it is a bitch!



Not me of course

 

[sammich]

I think there are a large amount of people in this thread who say they "rip their on BR" when they really mean they download it, so re-encoding it is a bitch!



Not me of course

Hey, I don't have the bandwidth to download these huge movies in Australia. Ripping it is the best way to get your content without having to get up and put the disc in yourself. See? Totally legit.

You *never* re-encode something, unless it's from the source, or the quality isn't of importance. Ie: you have the BR, re-encode is fine. Re-encode rip of BR, not good, unless it's for something like your iPhone, something smaller.

 

[MecPro]

Man, I do hope that the PS3 gets native .mkv support though

 

[DoFoT9]

Hmm, my files are untouched, so whatever they are in (DTS/AC3, always H.264). They work no problem. I only convert to AC3 when I want to copy the video onto the PS3's drive. MS converts all audio to AC3 anyway.

hmmmmm ok.

Why don't you convert the video to H.264 from the beginning?

because i dont to lose quality

I think there are a large amount of people in this thread who say they "rip their on BR" when they really mean they download it, so re-encoding it is a bitch!

i have both.

You *never* re-encode something, unless it's from the source, or the quality isn't of importance. Ie: you have the BR, re-encode is fine. Re-encode rip of BR, not good, unless it's for something like your iPhone, something smaller.

quality is of high importance to me, thus why i have the uncompressed BD rips. i could easily convert them into m4v files, but that defeats the purpose of having high quality. for me anyway..

yea MecPro - its more the formats inside of the containers though

 

[MecPro]

Hey, I don't have the bandwidth to download these huge movies in Australia. Ripping it is the best way to get your content without having to get up and put the disc in yourself. See? Totally legit.

You *never* re-encode something, unless it's from the source, or the quality isn't of importance. Ie: you have the BR, re-encode is fine. Re-encode rip of BR, not good, unless it's for something like your iPhone, something smaller.

Nah dude, don't get me wrong I wasn't aiming it at just you, but it's just a statement!

 

[sammich]

hmmmmm ok.

I think I may have contradicted myself somewhere here...

because i dont to lose quality

quality is of high importance to me, thus why i have the uncompressed BD rips. i could easily convert them into m4v files, but that defeats the purpose of having high quality. for me anyway..

Fair enough about wanting the quality, but I'm curious, what is the quality worth if you say 90% of the rips don't even play?

Nah dude, don't get me wrong I wasn't aiming it at just you, but it's just a statement!

I was hoping the would signify my reply as being tongue in cheek

 

[DoFoT9]

I think I may have contradicted myself somewhere here...

yes lol you def have e.g. acquiring

Fair enough about wanting the quality, but I'm curious, what is the quality worth if you say 90% of the rips don't even play?

thats a good question! i dont know.

its just the family missing out of watching them, idc i just watch them on my imac. i just need to figure out how to convert the movies losslessly! gr

 

[sammich]

yes lol you def have e.g. acquiring

Totally legit, all good BR's come in H.264, only the lazy studio's make a VC-1 release. I only buy the good movies, hence all in H.264. Follow?

thats a good question! i dont know.

its just the family missing out of watching them, idc i just watch them on my imac. i just need to figure out how to convert the movies losslessly! gr

FWIW, *my* 1/2 rips (ie 1/2 bit rate) are close enough to the actual quality that I can barely tell the difference, and I can still completely appreciate how detailed the scenes are. There is a distinct diminishing value here beyond 1/2+ rips.

Just try it, your i7 could crank out a proper rip in like 5 minutes.

 

[DoFoT9]

Totally legit, all good BR's come in H.264, only the lazy studio's make a VC-1 release. I only buy the good movies, hence all in H.264. Follow?

didnt know breaking encryption on BDs was legal

FWIW, *my* 1/2 rips (ie 1/2 bit rate) are close enough to the actual quality that I can barely tell the difference, and I can still completely appreciate how detailed the scenes are. There is a distinct diminishing value here beyond 1/2+ rips.

tbh - i get ripped BDs for the same reason as i get FLACs, because i can tell the difference and because i guess im OCD

Just try it, your i7 could crank out a proper rip in like 5 minutes.

to convert back down it takes roughly 2.5hrs per movie. and that would double up on storage size etc.

 

[GFLPraxis]

Hm. Can PS3 Media Server be used with the iPad in any way?

I've been using it with my PS3 so far, excellent performance.

 

[sammich]

Hm. Can PS3 Media Server be used with the iPad in any way?

I've been using it with my PS3 so far, excellent performance.

Nope. It's specifically designed to communicate with the PS3.

[app]Air Video[/app] is all you need. Brilliant interface too.

 

[sammich]

Hmm, I really need to post a pic of my HT setup. See how I enjoy my apparently lossy Full HD movies.

didnt know breaking encryption on BDs was legal

It was the computer doing all the naughty stuff. I swear it wasn't me!

tbh - i get ripped BDs for the same reason as i get FLACs, because i can tell the difference and because i guess im OCD

Ah. If you can appreciate the difference, then kudo's. I just found out the other day that I can't tell the diff between a 128kbps streamed pop song from a 256 bought copy (bandit.fm). It makes me sad.

to convert back down it takes roughly 2.5hrs per movie. and that would double up on storage size etc.

Just convert it 1/1 bit rate then. Set it to profile 5.1 n-pass, all the pro arguments, and just let your i7 nut away at it forever. VC-1 is bad.

 

[DoFoT9]

Hmm, I really need to post a pic of my HT setup. See how I enjoy my apparently lossy Full HD movies.

yea yea do it!

It was the computer doing all the naughty stuff. I swear it wasn't me!

it was the gun that killed him! it wasnt me! lol

Ah. If you can appreciate the difference, then kudo's. I just found out the other day that I can't tell the diff between a 128kbps streamed pop song from a 256 bought copy (bandit.fm). It makes me sad.

being a drummer has turned me all fussy about audio.. same has happened for visual things! when compressing audio, drums are the first thing to go (basically)

Just convert it 1/1 bit rate then. Set it to profile 5.1 n-pass, all the pro arguments, and just let your i7 nut away at it forever. VC-1 is bad.

its hard though. BDs use variable bitrates. they can go >100mb! ill give it a go, just for you

 

[OasisNYK]

Just found this program and started streaming to my PS3 - absolutely awesome.

I did notice m4v files stutter though - and I am streaming from an i7 iMac w/ 8 GB of RAM. Not sure what the deal is, maybe its my wireless but I was a little surprised since the mkv file that I streamed worked fine and it was 720p.

Anyone have the best settings for the i7 iMac?

 

[DoFoT9]

Just found this program and started streaming to my PS3 - absolutely awesome.

I did notice m4v files stutter though - and I am streaming from an i7 iMac w/ 8 GB of RAM. Not sure what the deal is, maybe its my wireless but I was a little surprised since the mkv file that I streamed worked fine and it was 720p.

Anyone have the best settings for the i7 iMac?

its not the imac, my i7 w 4GB RAM streams everything perfectly fine. i use the "uncompressed" setting over gigabit ethernet.

what wireless do you use precisely?

 

[MecPro]

Finally got it all working excellently over a gigabit switch , thanks for the help..

But ONE problem

My videocasts in iTunes do not work as I can't open the folder, but when I move the file from that folder to the Movies folder, it works just fine..WEIRD! When I use MediaLink it plays just fine also. I was thinking of making an automator script to for moving the files across when they come in from iTunes, but why should I do that if I know it play just fine, I just can't open the folder

Try it for yourselves of you have video podcasts. Navigate to Music>iTunes Music>Podcasts then try and watch a video, the folder won't open.

*edit* I restarted the MediaServer and it now works fine

 

[DoFoT9]

Finally got it all working excellently over a gigabit switch , thanks for the help..

But ONE problem

My videocasts in iTunes do not work as I can't open the folder, but when I move the file from that folder to the Movies folder, it works just fine..WEIRD! When I use MediaLink it plays just fine also. I was thinking of making an automator script to for moving the files across when they come in from iTunes, but why should I do that if I know it play just fine, I just can't open the folder

Try it for yourselves of you have video podcasts. Navigate to Music>iTunes Music>Podcasts then try and watch a video, the folder won't open.

*edit* I restarted the MediaServer and it now works fine

BAHAHA. was about to test then saw your edit glad that its all working man

that reset button is your best friend.

 

[MecPro]

BAHAHA. was about to test then saw your edit glad that its all working man

that reset button is your best friend.

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I just hope he/she/they keep up development of the program. Luckily it's Java too so it can be used natively on any system. This is a truly amazing piece of software

A question though, what is the "Enable Media Library" option? What media library is it?

 

[DoFoT9]

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glad its working! I think the 'enable media option' is related to sharing the itunes/ iphoto library etc. I think it shares the playlists etc

 

[OasisNYK]

its not the imac, my i7 w 4GB RAM streams everything perfectly fine. i use the "uncompressed" setting over gigabit ethernet.

what wireless do you use precisely?

I am using a linksys wireless g router - the PS3 is connected to the router with a cat5 cable and the iMac is connected through the wifi.

The interesting thing is that mkv and vob files seem to stream with no problem, it is only the m4v files I am having issues with.

 

[DoFoT9]

I am using a linksys wireless g router - the PS3 is connected to the router with a cat5 cable and the iMac is connected through the wifi.

The interesting thing is that mkv and vob files seem to stream with no problem, it is only the m4v files I am having issues with.

maybe it adds more overhead for the m4v files meaning that there is too much over head for g to handle. you are only realistically going to have a max of 3-5MB/s depending on your environment. its not that fast really..

 

[OasisNYK]

maybe it adds more overhead for the m4v files meaning that there is too much over head for g to handle. you are only realistically going to have a max of 3-5MB/s depending on your environment. its not that fast really..

So will an N connection fix this or wifi is a lost cause? I cant run cable to my computer unfortunately.

 

[DoFoT9]

So will an N connection fix this or wifi is a lost cause? I cant run cable to my computer unfortunately.

sorry for the late reply, mothers day and all

well it ultimetely depends on your environment, if there is lots of interference, etc. maybe its just a simple case of changing what channel your wifi uses (from 1-11 i think). maybe all your neighbours use the same channel, which causes interference even though you arent on the same network (CSMA/CA comes into play).

@5GHz wireless n can hit roughly 37.5MB/s, about 8x faster then what ripped BD bitrates are. @2.4GHz wireless n can get roughly 18MB/s.

when streaming the m4v movies to your ps3, can you take a look at the network activity being transmitted from (outgoing) your computer? you can use istat pro, activity monitor or whatever. if the outgoing rate is less then what 802.11g can do, then the problem isnt with the wireless.