the reason Samsung ditched SD cards in gs6

[Shanghaichica]

Lol at everyone claiming apple copied android design, the iPhone 6/6s looks like apples iPod touch.

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Notice the headphone jack at the bottom?

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I agree that the iphone 6/6 plus was inspired by the iPod touch 5th gen released in 2012. Samsung have borrowed some design elements from the iPhone 6, the bottom and the sides look similar. Eveything else though is different. From the front and the back the two phones look nothing alike. You couldn't mistake an iPhone 6 for a galaxy S6 or vice versa. Also what did you really expect them to do with the fingerprint scanner. The swiping motion isn't very accurate. They had to improve it.

 

[FFR]

the reason Samsung ditched SD cards in gs6

Your agenda is really showing now. As other have pointed out Apple takes design cues from Android.

Android has led the smartphone worldwide. Apple has slowly copied the market leader. Even with larger display phones. Look how vehement SJ was on how the 3.5 display was perfect then Apple is not only in the large screens but in phablets as well. Then the whole never going to make a 7 inch tablet? C'mon.....Apple marketing does exactly what you say Samsung is doing and you know it.

If 2GB ram is a natural hardware progression...then so is the headphone jack on the bottom. So is the speaker grill and little round holes to let the sound through. I mean what shape were they supposed to be? Samsung was criticized for the speaker on the back. So they moved it to the bottom. Geesz.



I don't recall seeing anyone make fun of the headphone on the bottom. Just no SD card and removable battery. Then they have produced phones like that for years. So you're still coming up empty.....



LOL at the protruding camera claim....man you are really reaching now.....

Was Apple the first to EVER have a protruding camera? Did they patent that?



Then as others have pointed out in other threads Apple blatantly copies others. Like the HTC M7 that won phone of the year in 2013. Before this Apple had not made a phone that looked like this. They even went on to take Beats!!!





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No they made iPods.

Sorry the iPod touch 5th generation predates the htc by about 6 months.

Htc copied the iPod/iPad designs, not the other way around.

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My Samsung galaxy nexus has the headphones on the bottom.



Did apple copy that phone? It also has a 4.7in screen!

No, apple had headphone jacks at the bottom of iPods for years.

The apple Newton had a 5 + inch screen and a stylus back in the 90's, did Samsung copy apple with the note?

 

[spinedoc77]

Your not the only person the copying is quite obvious.
Especially from the bottom

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They even ripped the speaker port from the iPhone 5/5s
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Not especially from the bottom, rather ONLY from the bottom. At any other angle they look nothing alike.

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QR8A3T6sPzU

On the protruding camera I take it back then.
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I see that in addition to the fingerprint sensor now and the new headphones that look like EarPods.

I get it they all borrow from each other. Samsung spending all those years bashing iPhone then turning around and adopting them while dropping their own is especially ironic. I'm sure the s6 is a good phone. It'll sell. But the Apple influence is evident, both in design and business principle.

I think Samsung copied Apple when they axed removable battery and external memory. The memory at least was to make more money on upgrades, the battery was to get the aesthetics right. The speaker position is already the best balance of function and aesthetics. When placed on the rear the sound sucks, and when placed in the front you have to add bezel, so the bottom is the natural position. There are only so many ways you can drill holes into metal. A person can be a total moron and say "hey they both have screens, look Samsung copied Apple", in fact I'm quite surprised someone hasn't said that already, it's about the same thing.

 

[jamezr]

No they made iPods.

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Sorry the iPod touch 5th generation predates the htc by about 6 months.

Htc copied the iPod/iPad designs, not the other way around.

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No, apple had headphone jacks at the bottom of iPods for years.
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The apple Newton had a 5 + inch screen and a stylus back in the 90's, did Samsung copy apple with the note?

The Newton was consider a huge FAILURE for Apple.
It was a direct rip off of the Palm products at the time! But thanks for showing us another example of how Apple copies others.....

http://www.wired.com/2013/08/remembering-the-apple-newtons-prophetic-failure-and-lasting-ideals/



not exactly.......the Samsung galaxy nexus (2012) had a headphone jack on the bottom and no SD card.

http://www.techradar.com/us/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/samsung-galaxy-nexus-1039209/review


You can post all the ipod pictures you want. HTC beat Apple to the market with a PHONE!! Apple thought it was sooo good they even bought Beats the company HTC was using for their boom sound!

 

[sracer]

Agree to disagree. I'm not gonna re type everything again. I'm not the only person who sees this, amongst multiple websites and sources. But hey we all have opinions so be it.

It's all part of the marketing hype machine. Tech blogs, manufacturers, etc. all have a vested interest in orchestrating scenarios where customers make an emotional investment in "choosing a camp".

It's clear that not everyone sees that. Your pointing to other websites and sources as "proof" that your belief is correct is evident of that.

From a consumer standpoint, what is the purpose of engaging in this whole Samsung copied Apple, Apple copied Android, argument? Trying to attribute some moral high ground to a corporation? It's silly.

 

[FFR]

The Newton was consider a huge FAILURE for Apple.

It was a direct rip off of the Palm products at the time! But thanks for showing us another example of how Apple copies others.....



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Failure or not it does look as if Samsung stole the stylus and the large screen off of it.

Was it?
The Newton MessagePad was released in 1993.
The Palm was released in 1996, I should know I owned both.

It's apparent you hate apple no need to make up stuff.

not exactly.......the Samsung galaxy nexus (2012) had a headphone jack on the bottom and no SD card.





You can post all the ipod pictures you want. HTC beat Apple to the market with a PHONE!! Apple thought it was sooo good they even bought Beats the company HTC was using for their boom sound!



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Again apple had the headphone jack on the bottom of the iPhone touch back in 2007, Samsung did it once on the Galaxy nexus at Google request and hasn't done so since the iPhone 5 was released not only did Samsung copy the the headphone port but they copied the speaker port aswell.
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Lol ok.
Htc was the first with a smartphone that copied apples iPod touch design, but that doesn't count to you because it didn't have a SIM card.
Whatever floats your boat.

Ps the Galaxy nexus was 2011 not 2012, but according to your previous posts, your not one to care about facts very much.

 

[gotluck]

Imo the ip6 looks more like the htc one than the iPod 5th gen

 

[spinedoc77]

Failure or not it does look as if Samsung stole the stylus and the large screen off of it.

Was it?
The Newton MessagePad was released in 1993.
The Palm was released in 1996, I should know I owned both.

It's apparent you hate apple no need to make up stuff.




Again apple had the headphone jack on the bottom of the iPhone touch back in 2007, Samsung did it once on the Galaxy nexus at Google request and hasn't done so since the iPhone 5 was released not only did Samsung copy the the headphone port but they copied the speaker port aswell.
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Lol ok.
Htc was the first with a smartphone that copied apples iPod touch design, but that doesn't count to you because it didn't have a SIM card.
Whatever floats your boat.

Ps the Galaxy nexus was 2011 not 2012, but according to your previous posts, your not one to care about facts very much.

So Apple copied the stylus from the Mesopotamians, lol yes that's how utterly stupid the entire concept is. Although if we want to be grounded more in reality companies did use the stylus BEFORE the Newton, well before like the 80s. Pencept, GO corp, etc. Did Apple copy them ?!?!

 

[gotluck]

I wonder what completely original car, or whatever other completely original products these users use

Nothing is original

 

[spinedoc77]

It's all part of the marketing hype machine. Tech blogs, manufacturers, etc. all have a vested interest in orchestrating scenarios where customers make an emotional investment in "choosing a camp".

It's clear that not everyone sees that. Your pointing to other websites and sources as "proof" that your belief is correct is evident of that.

From a consumer standpoint, what is the purpose of engaging in this whole Samsung copied Apple, Apple copied Android, argument? Trying to attribute some moral high ground to a corporation? It's silly.

I think it's beyond understanding why someone clings so desperately to nothing. Anyone with an iota of common sense looking at the side by side pictures would not say they look alike. What I've never understood though is that even if they were identical copies WHO CARES? Seriously, what difference does it make? Apple has ripped off virtually every product it has, but I don't care, I still buy what makes the most sense for me.

 

[FFR]

So Apple copied the stylus from the Mesopotamians, lol yes that's how utterly stupid the entire concept is. Although if we want to be grounded more in reality companies did use the stylus BEFORE the Newton, well before like the 80s. Pencept, GO corp, etc. Did Apple copy them ?!?!

Sure if the mesopotamians or the other companies you mentioned were producing smartphones today.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Some of you guys are taking this way too seriously lol. These devices have similar qualities but a blind man riding a galloping horse past the Tower of London could tell them apart aesthetically. The HTC One has antenna lines and the iPhone 6 introduced them after HTC, so Apple clearly took inspiration. Do they look at all alike other than a couple of lines on the back? No I would say they don't. The Galaxy S6 has a chassis that looks like an iPhone 6 from the bottom and side views. Do they look alike other than that, no they don't. Who cares? All this bickering trying to make others look like fanboy's while ironically looking like one yourselves just makes for dull reading.

Samsung have introduced a phone that has a built in battery and fixed storage because it introduces a price structure and has potential to increase profit. Apple have done this for years to much success, but funnily enough were not the first company to do it. Who copied who? I don't care and to be honest I think it is a smart move by Samsung.

 

[gotluck]

Sure if the mesopotamians or the other companies you mentioned were producing smartphones today.

Why would that matter? Copying is copying

 

[spinedoc77]

Sure if the mesopotamians or the other companies you mentioned were producing smartphones today.

Survey says...EHHHHHHHHHHHHH. Changing the parameters of the argument doesn't make your point valid. The stylus was used in electronic devices before there Newton was released, just because those companies are not around anymore doesn't mean Apple didn't copy them. Now that the x company copied Apple stylus argument has been invalidated we should move on.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

Some of you guys are taking this way too seriously lol. These devices have similar qualities but a blind man riding a galloping horse past the Tower of London could tell them apart aesthetically. The HTC One has antenna lines and the iPhone 6 introduced them after HTC, so Apple clearly took inspiration. Do they look at all alike other than a couple of lines on the back? No I would say they don't. The Galaxy S6 has a chassis that looks like an iPhone 6 from the bottom and side views. Do they look alike other than that, no they don't. Who cares? All this bickering trying to make others look like fanboy's while ironically looking like one yourselves just makes for dull reading.

Samsung have introduced a phone that has a built in battery and fixed storage because it introduces a price structure and has potential to increase profit. Apple have done this for years to much success, but funnily enough were not the first company to do it. Who copied who? I don't care and to be honest I think it is a smart move by Samsung.

You copied my thoughts.

 

[spinedoc77]

By the way while we are invalidating inane arguments, Sony had a bottom headphone jack on their A810 in 2007. Did Apple copy them? Can we just move on?

 

[skratch77]

Rumor has it the 32gb is same price as the 16gb gs5.if that is true you can toss the idea of Samsung ditching the SD card for margins out the window.

 

[spinedoc77]

Rumor has it the 32gb is same price as the 16gb gs5.if that is true you can toss the idea of Samsung ditching the SD card for margins out the window.

Interesting. I think that would mean Samsung is catering a bit more to the high end market which doesn't mind paying more for specs. I know when I buy an iPhone I always get at least the 64gb model. I don't think I'd throw out the internal profit margin out at all, profit is profit. Specs have to advance somewhat and having 16gb as your base model isn't a good idea. Plus memory prices come down every year, especially for Samsung which manufactures it.

 

[skratch77]

Interesting. I think that would mean Samsung is catering a bit more to the high end market which doesn't mind paying more for specs. I know when I buy an iPhone I always get at least the 64gb model. I don't think I'd throw out the internal profit margin out at all, profit is profit. Specs have to advance somewhat and having 16gb as your base model isn't a good idea. Plus memory prices come down every year, especially for Samsung which manufactures it.

I think I read Samsung invested almost 10billion to make this memory and soc.

It's not old school memory and is first to use it and on the flip side first to actually make it.

They should be charging a premium to get back there research and development.

Memory prices going down? Who else is making usf 2.0 memory at 14nm?

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

You copied my thoughts.

I'll see you in court

 

[BlueGoldAce]

Are you people really arguing about who did what, first, with a headphone jack? Are you kidding me? Its a darn headphone jack...who gives a rip?

Actually, who cares who copied who...both have copied each other, and to say otherwise is a demonstration of ignorance.

Companies copy companies. The only reason it is talked about in phones is because Apple keeps taking samsung to court....there is biggest competitor. Apple can claim self-righteous outrage, but if samsung wasn't selling so many phones, they wouldn't care.

Samsung has copied Apple (as Apple as copied other people)...and for them to deny it is laughable as well.

Its all a symptom of a broken patent system.

Anyway....sorry for the tangent. Companies copy companies. You don't see Ford whining because everyone has copied design aspects of their F-150s. You don't see Samsung whinning (or whoever) because people make TVs that look like theirs.

These arguments are pathetic...and have gone on way to long.

The Galaxy S6 and S6 edge can stand on its own merits. It is designed better or as well as any phone on the market now. It performs better or as well. It has features that set it apart (Samsung pay is already better than Apple pay, and it hasn't even been release). The galaxies won't out sale the iPhones, because of Apple's brand power...but like all companies through history, Apple will eventually decline, and the market will equalize. It always happens.

I think Apple is a great brand, but they do gouge the customer. They overcharge for their products. Yes, the Galaxy series is similarly priced...but now it offers comparable build quality, and better hardware. iOS was always the big difference...but they is becoming less and less relevant as android surpasses iOS, and continues to evolve (with app makers treating android as an equal). Why gimp the iphone with less ram, if only for the next upgrade cycle? Don't give me the "iPhone doesn't need better specs"....these phones cost upward of $1000, they deserve to have the better specs and future proofing that it provides. I returned my iphone 6+ because of ram issues.

I owe a Macbook pro, and an ipad air 2...so I am no bias...I have given apple more money than I have given any other tech company. Due to the apps available, they still offer the best tablet experience...if not the best hardware on a tablet (the new xperia takes that crown)...but eventually android will catch up there as well, or maybe windows. Windows 10 may be a turning point for Microsoft.

I didn't plan on this post turning into a tagent, my apologies.

tl:dr The galaxy s6 are equal or better to the iphone on all fronts. Apple needs to change it's business approach.

 

[spinedoc77]

I think I read Samsung invested almost 10billion to make this memory and soc.

It's not old school memory and is first to use it and on the flip side first to actually make it.

They should be charging a premium to get back there research and development.

Memory prices going down? Who else is making usf 2.0 memory at 14nm?

I don't disagree, but your average consumer could care less. The only spec they see is 16gb versus 32gb and they are already accustomed to getting more memory for the same price every year similar to computers and cameras. I would be curious to see what Samsungs profits are, you're right maybe they are losing money on their internal memory. Does anyone have any idea what that memory costs them to manufacture, ignoring R/D and marketing for a second?

 

[vladi]

Actually iPhone 6 is the "weakest" iPhone design and it was designed with intention to blend in which is perfectly fine.

When it comes to a device that sparked imagination this is the sole benchmark

All aluminum, color touchscreen with hardware keyboard flip when Sony was at its peek.

 

[jamezr]

Actually iPhone 6 is the "weakest" iPhone design and it was designed with intention to blend in which is perfectly fine.

When it comes to a device that sparked imagination this is the sole benchmark

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All aluminum, color touchscreen with hardware keyboard flip when Sony was at its peek.

I think I had that phone!

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Failure or not it does look as if Samsung stole the stylus and the large screen off of it.

Was it?
The Newton MessagePad was released in 1993.
The Palm was released in 1996, I should know I owned both.

It's apparent you hate apple no need to make up stuff.




Again apple had the headphone jack on the bottom of the iPhone touch back in 2007, Samsung did it once on the Galaxy nexus at Google request and hasn't done so since the iPhone 5 was released not only did Samsung copy the the headphone port but they copied the speaker port aswell.
It's black and white:
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Lol ok.
Htc was the first with a smartphone that copied apples iPod touch design, but that doesn't count to you because it didn't have a SIM card.
Whatever floats your boat.

Ps the Galaxy nexus was 2011 not 2012, but according to your previous posts, your not one to care about facts very much.

sorry you still fail in your everyone copies Apple rants.
They all copy from each other. Go back and get caught up on why I was responding to the original poster. Get some context it will do you good.

I hate Apple? FAIL......I have a house full of Apple products. I just bought a MBP 15 with a 512GB SSD as a I mentioned in another thread. If I respond to fanboyism when others claim everyone copies Apple does not mean I hate them. Apple is no a victim here.

 

[tbayrgs]

I think I had that phone!

Of course you did.

It's probably tougher for both you and MRU, to identify phones you did NOT have.