The Samsung Galaxy S24 / Ultra

[Technerd108]

agreed...but this person was a known tweaker that used to image his phones from XDA...he has admitted it numerous times.
Then from what I read it didn't die right away.

Then lets keep things separate...we are not talking about the average user....they don't read forums like this or buy the latest and greatest phones having multiple phones in the rotation.

You don't know developer setting is relevant or not...for the same reason you listed. It is relevant until it isn't.

But coming out with disgust that his new phone died for no reason and how he wanted to give Samsung a shot even though he doesn't like them from the past and all the derogatory names he used to call them.
Then LATER admitting he tweaked the phone...but only the battery _shrugs_.

but i am not sure the phone was bricked think it just died from running out of battery. That why it is fine now after charging overnight.

Anyway...done...talking about. it seems it has miraculously risen from the dead to be amazing....

Appreciate the context and your response. Sheds a different light on the situation I was ignorant of.

I imagine debating with ADB could cause this issue??

In any case I agree with you that an average user wouldn't get into a no boot situation from adjusting settings BUT a user who may be doing more than they are saying is a completely different story, specifically if someone has a preconceived idea or bias. I don't know enough to say and I try to give everyone the benefit of doubt until I learn otherwise.

I am done on the subject too and hope we can move forward talking about the s24 series.

 

[Dave245]

Playing with this phone today ( brought it with me to office, no SIM yet ) but this thing truly is a beast, super sharp detailed amazing display, and the rectangular sharp shape seems so chiseled and just to futuristic looking. Like what I expected a future smartphone to eventually look like, and now were here.

The smoothness of unlocking the phone to the homescreen is fluid, and everything feels snappy and fast. And OneUI 6.1 is shockingly very minimal, like it feels pretty darn close to Pixel OS, but with way more customization and tweaks available. I have to say I am very surprised in a good way here.

It's a great device for sure, there are so many features and customisation options that you can customise almost anything. Have you used the S-Pen yet? it's a great little device, especially if you take notes and or doodle/draw, also the click button on the end is oddly satisfying 😂

Will you be keeping the S24 Ultra?

 

[Technerd108]

Anyone get a Flolab screen protector??

Anyone? What screen protector are you using if you are using one and how is it?

 

[Tig Bitties]

I've explained this story on XDA they still insist I have a lemon, and should return it. XDA members saying it will die on me again soon for 2 days.

I don't know about that. I'm willing to keep it for the next 24 to 48 hrs and just see how it goes. If it doesn't suddenly die overnight again, I'm just going to stick with it.

And the settings I tweaked were not Developer settings, they were standard battery settings, that I saw a few YouTube guys recommend to change, in my opinion those are not "deep dive" [H]ardcore changes or anything.

 

[Technerd108]

I have zero clue what happened. All weekend I kept pressing the power button for 30 seconds at a time, or power button and volume key at the same time. And nothing would happen. It was the strangest thing ever.

And I'm not a newb to smartphones, I'm on XDA and used to Root and ROM my phones back in the day, I think I know what I'm doing.

Then this morning, as I'm leaving for work, and planned to box it up and RMA the phone. I tried yet again, holding the power button down just to see one last time if anything might happen. And holy cow I saw a little symbol on the screen, an image of 0% battery with an animation of a plug.

I was totally blown away. Could not believe it. So I charged it, agd it took awhile, at first the timer showed like 2h10m to fully charge. So I let it charge and turned it on and it worked just like I left it on Friday night. I have no freaking clue what happened? I'm stumped.

Well if you are a seasoned XDA member then what you experienced can happen in certain situations. Like if you try to debloat with ADB and have an issue it can render the device unbootable until it completely dies and you charge it again. It doesn't happen often but it can happen. There are any number of things that can cause a device to become unbootable. Most of the time it has to do with severe battery drain, corrupt software installation, some type of adb issue, Odin issue, etc.

So I would have thought before you get upset and go through the drama of saying you want to return, maybe you should have taken a few troubleshooting steps. Just holding the power button is useless,30 seconds or an hour. You connect the phone to a power source and try power up for 5 to 10 seconds. Go into recovery and reset and try again, or let the phone stay on in whatever state until battery dies and then plug in and wait until at least 15-30% battery and turn on. There are a ton of other steps you could have taken to be sure you actually had a hardware failure to be sure since you have the skills to do so.

I would have done this on any phone I had a similar issue you did, iPhone, Pixel, Samsung, doesn't matter.

Also you never reset the device after the issue? That would have solved your problem. Now I understand you shouldn't have to do any of it on a brand new $1500 phone but you just said you are not a newb so I don't know why you didn't take additional steps besides just pressing the power button?

 

[Tig Bitties]

I'm getting a weird feeling in this thread, people don't believe me, or think I'm making these issues up or some crap? WTF.

Why would I want to make up a headache inducing, stressed out situation like this? For what reason?

I said my first impressions were very positive Friday night. And now that it's miraculously working again, I'm still thinking it's a super nice smartphone.

 

[Technerd108]

I'm getting a weird feeling in this thread, people don't believe me, or think I'm making these issues up or some crap? WTF.

Why would I want to make up a headache inducing, stressed out situation like this? For what reason?

I said my first impressions were very positive Friday night. And now that it's miraculously working again, I'm still thinking it's a super nice smartphone.

It is just that in your story you seem like someone who just got the phone and had a problem like an average user and didn't know what to do?

From your post history you may or may not have a bias towards Samsung. You started super happy then had your issue. Okay no problem. Could happen to anyone. BUT you say you are an XDA member who has rooted devices so you should know a phone that looks doa and is new os probably not DOA. Most of the time it is a software issue. Standard first thing to do is reset the device. Charge the device to full. Then go from there. I never heard you mention any troubleshooting steps other than holding power button which in a situation where a device won't boot up won't help. You have to do something to wake the phone up. Connect to a PC a power cable then press power. Then get into recovery.

I suggested several steps earlier and I haven't seen you post that you took any of them.

Now a few days later it works. So it just feels a bit odd.

BUT life is crazy and you seem like a nice guy and I am not trying to say you did anything.

The biggest point which I have been trying to make is it shouldn't have happened in the first place as long as you just adjusted settings and that's it.

But once it did, then you could have taken several steps that might have resolved your issue earlier.

BUT this is the best resolution as you didn't have to do anything and it is working how you set it up.

All I care about is that you get the proper resolution, Samsung does the right thing. I just don't want people to get the wrong impression about a device because of an issue that might not even really be an issue.

 

[Tig Bitties]

Well if you are a seasoned XDA member then what you experienced can happen in certain situations. Like if you try to debloat with ADB and have an issue it can render the device unbootable until it completely dies and you charge it again. It doesn't happen often but it can happen. There are any number of things that can cause a device to become unbootable. Most of the time it has to do with severe battery drain, corrupt software installation, some type of adb issue, Odin issue, etc.

So I would have thought before you get upset and go through the drama of saying you want to return, maybe you should have taken a few troubleshooting steps. Just holding the power button is useless,30 seconds or an hour. You connect the phone to a power source and try power up for 5 to 10 seconds. Go into recovery and reset and try again, or let the phone stay on in whatever state until battery dies and then plug in and wait until at least 15-30% battery and turn on. There are a ton of other steps you could have taken to be sure you actually had a hardware failure to be sure since you have the skills to do so.

I would have done this on any phone I had a similar issue you did, iPhone, Pixel, Samsung, doesn't matter.

Also you never reset the device after the issue? That would have solved your problem. Now I understand you shouldn't have to do any of it on a brand new $1500 phone but you just said you are not a newb so I don't know why you didn't take additional steps besides just pressing the power button?

I did all of that on Saturday, I know what I'm doing here. I spent like 2 hours all morning trying every thing I've known of 15 years of rooting and ROM'ing phones. If you read my earlier posts from the weekend, I went through all of that. Plugged the phone in for an hour, then pressed the power button + vol down key to get into Recovery, but nothing turned on. I then put it on the wireless charger for an hour, and tried again, and nothing happened. I then plugged it into my PC for 45 minutes, to maybe charge, and then tried the pwr btn + vl down, and again nothing was turning on.

I plugged the phone into my PC, it did not even recognize or see it in the system. I held the power button + vol down key for the 10 to 15 seconds to get into Recovery mode ( I'm very familiar with that ) and nothing was happening.

I never used ADB or debloated the phone, not at all, I only tweaked some standard settings, I did not even go into Developer settings.

What happened is something I have never seen before, and I've owned approx. 30 different Android phones over the years. And know the ins and outs of rebooting, and recovery mode and safe mode, etc... But as of Saturday morning this phone was dead dead. And I went through the typical laundry list of steps of getting it to turn on, and NOTHING worked.

Today Monday, was a total shock, I pressed the button almost in frustration or just think, what the hell I'll try for the 20th time, see what happens, and out of the blue it lit up showing that animation the phone needs to charge.

Look at my post #1355 from Saturday

 

[Technerd108]

I did all of that on Saturday, I know what I'm doing here. I spent like 2 hours all morning trying every thing I've known of 15 years of rooting and ROM'ing phones. If you read my earlier posts from the weekend, I went through all of that. Plugged the phone in for an hour, then pressed the power button + vol down key to get into Recovery, but nothing turned on. I then put it on the wireless charger for an hour, and tried again, and nothing happened. I then plugged it into my PC for 45 minutes, to maybe charge, and then tried the pwr btn + vl down, and again nothing was turning on.

I plugged the phone into my PC, it did not even recognize or see it in the system. I held the power button + vol down key for the 10 to 15 seconds to get into Recovery mode ( I'm very familiar with that ) and nothing was happening.

I never used ADB or debloated the phone, not at all, I only tweaked some standard settings, I did not even go into Developer settings.

What happened is something I have never seen before, and I've owned approx. 30 different Android phones over the years. And know the ins and outs of rebooting, and recovery mode and safe mode, etc... But as of Saturday morning this phone was dead dead. And I went through the typical laundry list of steps of getting it to turn on, and NOTHING worked.

Today Monday, was a total shock, I pressed the button almost in frustration or just think, what the hell I'll try for the 20th time, see what happens, and out of the blue it lit up showing that animation the phone needs to charge.

Honestly, I just want you to be happy with your phone of you decide to keep it. It sucked what you wrnt through and I hope you never have to go through it again. At the end of the day shift happens and no one is to blame.

If you decide to return and get something else then I hope you get a great device and are happy.

I am just a nerd talking tech. Not trying to be a jerk even if I can't help it sometimes.

 

[Bkdodger]

That really sucks. Glad you got a refund. You have to be really careful when purchasing a used device within a year or two after release as a lot of people will sell before they pay they device off and then just let whomever disable the device due to non payments. Almost had the sane situation but just barely made it though by harping on the seller. But it is a really crappy scam if you are on the losing end. Luckily you got a refund!

Wish there was a way to revive it. You could sell it on ebay for parts. At least you could put whatever you get towards a new phone? Bet you could get $150-200 easily.

Yes that's why I like to use PayPal with the buyer's protection.. I bought the phone brand new in the box unlocked.. and I got it in March which was right around the time the phone was released.. The person that sold it to me had a good rating on Swappa but unfortunately he bought it from someone on the Facebook marketplace.. he changed his mind and got an iPhone and sold the Ultra on Swappa ...

 

[Ludatyk]

Have you used the S-Pen yet? it's a great little device, especially if you take notes and or doodle/draw, also the click button on the end is oddly satisfying 😂

I know some users tend to use the S-Pen for notes or drawing… I mostly use it to navigate around the OS.

Since it has a hover feature… it helps in scenarios when selecting text or small touch targets.

 

[Technerd108]

Yes that's why I like to use PayPal with the buyer's protection.. I bought the phone brand new in the box unlocked.. and I got it in March which was right around the time the phone was released.. The person that sold it to me had a good rating on Swappa but unfortunately he bought it from someone on the Facebook marketplace.. he changed his mind and got an iPhone and sold the Ultra on Swappa ...

This is why I never take the risk of buying used. Thank God for those that do but I just don't want the risk. And there is more risk than just the phone nit being fully paid for.

 

[rhinosrcool]

I did all of that on Saturday, I know what I'm doing here. I spent like 2 hours all morning trying every thing I've known of 15 years of rooting and ROM'ing phones. If you read my earlier posts from the weekend, I went through all of that. Plugged the phone in for an hour, then pressed the power button + vol down key to get into Recovery, but nothing turned on. I then put it on the wireless charger for an hour, and tried again, and nothing happened. I then plugged it into my PC for 45 minutes, to maybe charge, and then tried the pwr btn + vl down, and again nothing was turning on.

I plugged the phone into my PC, it did not even recognize or see it in the system. I held the power button + vol down key for the 10 to 15 seconds to get into Recovery mode ( I'm very familiar with that ) and nothing was happening.

I never used ADB or debloated the phone, not at all, I only tweaked some standard settings, I did not even go into Developer settings.

What happened is something I have never seen before, and I've owned approx. 30 different Android phones over the years. And know the ins and outs of rebooting, and recovery mode and safe mode, etc... But as of Saturday morning this phone was dead dead. And I went through the typical laundry list of steps of getting it to turn on, and NOTHING worked.

Today Monday, was a total shock, I pressed the button almost in frustration or just think, what the hell I'll try for the 20th time, see what happens, and out of the blue it lit up showing that animation the phone needs to charge.

Look at my post #1355 from Saturday

Who knows what happened? Now, it's working and I think you should just keep it (I realize you may not care what I have to say). It's a great phone and, with your knowledge, it will be even better. But, it's a lot of money so think it through.

 

[Technerd108]

I know some users tend to use the S-Pen for notes or drawing… I mostly use it to navigate around the OS.

Since it has a hover feature… it helps in scenarios when selecting text or small touch targets.

The a pen has saved me in important emergency situations where I had to sign a bunch of paperwork on the fly at the hospital to admit a family member into care. There have been other situations where I needed to sign important documents and I can do it within the PDF and send it right back without having to print and sign anything.

It doesn't happen often but when it does the s pen comes in very handy. Not to mention all of the other stuff it can do.

 

[Dave245]

I know some users tend to use the S-Pen for notes or drawing… I mostly use it to navigate around the OS.

Since it has a hover feature… it helps in scenarios when selecting text or small touch targets.

Yea it's very versatile, I hope Samsung continue to include the S-Pen. I've just seen on Twitter that there is a software update coming this month, hopefully it will one that solves camera issues as well as the display not being as vibrant.

 

[Bkdodger]

This is why I never take the risk of buying used. Thank God for those that do but I just don't want the risk. And there is more risk than just the phone nit being fully paid for.

I've only bought on Swappa a few times with great results ...but always a risk ..usually I go by user rating and time history on the selling site ...some quality sellers including myself

 

[Technerd108]

Yea it's very versatile, I hope Samsung continue to include the S-Pen. I've just seen on Twitter that there is a software update coming this month, hopefully it will one that solves camera issues as well as the display not being as vibrant.

From what I have read and seen there is a GPU driver error that causes colors to not be 100 true. Some other colors are being activated. It could be a feature to improve brightness but either way it is creating a different color than what the driver is being asked to display.

This was identified using a microscope and viewing certain static colors on the screen.

If its true then it can be fixed by a software update that might arrive in the middle of the month. Same with color banding yet Samsung has officially said nothing.

 

[Technerd108]

Who knows what happened? Now, it's working and I think you should just keep it (I realize you may not care what I have to say). It's a great phone and, with your knowledge, it will be even better. But, it's a lot of money so think it through.

Look we all say things and have different opinions. As long as you aren't purposely trying to inflame a situation then I say just move on. I didn't get from your posts that you were trying to be argumentative or mean on purpose you just said something counter to popular opinion and maybe not as appropriate as some would like.

But I felt your posts are contributing to the thread overall but I am not the person whom was offended. Just my 2 cents no one asked for. Lol 😆

 

[Harthag]

Swappa can be hit or miss for sellers too. Someone bought my 15PM, paid for it, just seemed sketchy and did not bother to read my listing. They paid for the phone and then wanted me to cancel the sale if it was not paid off (I paid retail and unlocked from Apple and stated so in my description). No response to messages after doing some digging into their shipping address, they are likely an international forwarding service that has bought 2500 devices since 2016. Swappa CS is awesome, canceled the sale for me and refunded fees. PayPal also refunded my PayPal fee as a courtesy, which is nice.

 

[Technerd108]

I've only bought on Swappa a few times with great results ...but always a risk ..usually I go by user rating and time history on the selling site ...some quality sellers including myself

Yup. Me too. People get stuff that was babied and looks exactly like new fir a great deal. Generally though I sell right when warranty ends so they assume more risk than me?

Swappa is great but is expensive since you have to include shipping in the price and the fees hit hard. But it is mostly a safe space and you can find the best used stuff on there as opposed to ebay.

 

[fjd726]

Who knows what happened? Now, it's working and I think you should just keep it (I realize you may not care what I have to say). It's a great phone and, with your knowledge, it will be even better. But, it's a lot of money so think it through.

Stop apologizing for providing your views here on a topic. This is just a forum. Stick by your guns....

 

[Bkdodger]

@Technerd108 @Harthag Agree and as a seller sometimes paying that fee although we hate it pays off with the service provided though Swappa and PayPal

 

[Tig Bitties]

Now I see why GrumpyMom left this forum. I'm out too.

It's appalling and actually shocking some members here think I'm almost making my story up, or like I'm some dummy that doesn't know how to reboot or fix a phone. WTF? Why would I make up some stressful super aggravating situation? Like why would I do that? Makes zero sense.

How about I got a phone that had some serious hardware issue, but I also actually really like the phone a lot, but there was something wrong with it. And now it's fixed itself somehow.

People on XDA said sometimes a phone issue like mine needs to drain down to 0% on its own before I'd be able to charge and reboot it. And that seems to be what happened, it took from Friday evening to Monday to drain to 0, and then I was able to press the power button and see the animation it needs a charge. I have no idea how or why that happens, but it did.

Most of the people here are friendly nice helpful good people, I like the vast of majority of you guys and gals . But a few are not, and they can go F themselves.

 

[jamezr]

I know some users tend to use the S-Pen for notes or drawing… I mostly use it to navigate around the OS.

Since it has a hover feature… it helps in scenarios when selecting text or small touch targets.

I use it to take photos all the time. It is very handy to use a remote for the camera.

 

[Ludatyk]

I use it to take photos all the time. It is very handy to use a remote for the camera.

That's a dope feature too! However, my S-Pen doesn't have that capability... I use the S-Pen Fold Edition (not S-Pen Pro).

But I do use the remote feature on my Galaxy Watch.