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Lets see. The iPhone X has 2,740,500 pixels. All Plus screens have 2,073,600 pixels.

The areas of the left and right of the notch are 22,410 pixels each. So 2,740,500 - 44,820

So ignoring the notch the iPhone X has 2,695,680 ixels. Thats 622,080 more pixels than any Plus sized iPhone.

If you want the screen size on the diagonal. It is probably around 1.65-1.7" ignoring the notch

ok. thanks.
but still i suspect in real time landscape usage many apps will appear smaller thus more equivalent to the smaller Iphone size.
and i do not accept the "mostly portrait" usage. either you use the whole real estate or you don't.
most scenarios cripple the x's landscape screen real estate.
a phone that benefits mostly portrait at 1000$+ is very frustrating, not only for me.
 
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There's been a lot of discussion about if the screen really is bigger than a Plus screen or not. This video sums it up pretty well.


THe only problem is that the "truth" of that video is wrong... the iphone X has a wider screen than the 4.7. It has the equivalent width of a 5 inch 16:9 screen
 
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It’s confusing when Apple deliberately claim 5.8 screen, which is bigger than 5.5,
But actually it’s smaller. Many people simply understand it’s bigger. Which it isn’t.
So there.
It’s only confusing for people that may not understand screen size is a measure of the diagonal. It is standard practice by any company selling something with a display to list the diagonal as the size.
 
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ok. thanks.
but still i suspect in real time landscape usage many apps will appear smaller thus more equivalent to the smaller Iphone size.
and i do not accept the "mostly portrait" usage. either you use the whole real estate or you don't.
most scenarios cripple the x's landscape screen real estate.
a phone that benefits mostly portrait at 1000$+ is very frustrating, not only for me.

The whole point of Apples Developer tools is to make sure all users get the best viewing experience possible.

Here is an iPhone 6/7/8 Compared to an iPhone X for web browsing

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Here is a Plus compared to an iPhone X

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As you can see the page rendering of the iPhone X is practically identical to that of the Plus if only marginally smaller. And still significantly larger over the standard 6/7/8.
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THe only problem is that the "truth" of that video is wrong... the iphone X has a wider screen than the 4.7. It has the equivalent width of a 5 inch 16:9 screen

Yeah she's confusing points with pixels and is obviously not a developer.
 
The whole point of Apples Developer tools is to make sure all users get the best viewing experience possible.

Here is an iPhone 6/7/8 Compared to an iPhone X for web browsing


Here is a Plus compared to an iPhone X


As you can see the page rendering of the iPhone X is practically identical to that of the Plus if only marginally smaller. And still significantly larger over the standard 6/7/8.
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Yeah she's confusing points with pixels and is obviously not a developer.

ok, but look at the white bars! lots of wasted space on the X.
how do you suppose they fix that?
 
THe only problem is that the "truth" of that video is wrong... the iphone X has a wider screen than the 4.7. It has the equivalent width of a 5 inch 16:9 screen
You are mistaken. On their developer site, Apple specifically states the screen width of the X matches the screen width of the 6, 7, and 8.

This is their exact statement—“In portrait orientation, the width of the display on iPhone X matches the width of the 4.7" displays of iPhone 6, iPhone 7, and iPhone 8.”
-https://developer.apple.com/ios/human-interface-guidelines/overview/iphone-x/

Edit—many are referencing how Apple measure in points on the developer page. I am not ruling out their argument, but the specific statement above makes no mention of points. This makes it a bit confusing.
 
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ok, but look at the white bars! lots of wasted space on the X.
how do you suppose they fix that?

Theres still a lot we don't know. If the white bars are eliminated the X would surpass the Plus. Other apps will likely not incorporate these bars. Again, Watching Videos is one applications and browsing the internet is Another. Perhaps Chrome, or Puffin won't have these bars? Maybe Safari will have a zoom mode? We can't say for sure. What we do know is that even with the pars the X is holding its own JUST FINE
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You are mistaken. On their developer site, Apple specifically states the screen width of the X matches the screen width of the 6, 7, and 8.

This is their exact statement—“In portrait orientation, the width of the display on iPhone X matches the width of the 4.7" displays of iPhone 6, iPhone 7, and iPhone 8.”
-https://developer.apple.com/ios/human-interface-guidelines/overview/iphone-x/

That page is misleading. That page is specifically talking about the human interface guidelines which for an intents and purposes the iPhone X/6/7/8 all have the same point width. However this doesn't directly convert into screen dimensions.

Here are the actual dimensions

iPhone X vs iPhone 8 vs iPhone 8 Plus Total Size & Weight
Width: 2.79 inches (70.9 mm) | 2.65 inches (67.3 mm) | 3.07 inches (78.1 mm).
Height: 5.65 inches (143.6 mm) | 5.45 inches (138.4 mm) | 6.24 inches (158.4 mm).
Depth: 0.30 inch (7.7 mm) | 0.29 inch (7.3 mm) | 0.30 inch (7.5 mm).
Weight: 6.14 ounces (174 grams) | 5.22 ounces (148 grams) | Weight: 7.13 ounces (202 grams).

iPhone X vs iPhone 8 vs iPhone 8 Plus Screen Size
Width: 2.46 inches (62.4 mm) | 2.30 inches (58.44 mm) | 2.69 inches (68.41 mm).
Height: 5.32 inches (135.1 mm) | 4.09 inches (103.94 mm) | 4.79 inches (121.62 mm).

iPhone X vs iPhone 8 vs iPhone 8 Plus Resolution
Width: 1125 | 750 | 1080.
Height: 2436 | 1334 | 1920.
Pixel Density: 458 ppi | 326 ppi | 401 ppi.
 
I have a feeling that a lot of these people moaning about the white bars in landscape probably don’t even use their phone in landscape a lot anyways. It’s more a reason for them to hate on the “notch”.

Based on the points people have made, if they truely care about screen real estate, they would be viewing things like web browsing in portrait anyways. The vast majority of content on a phone is meant to be viewed/scrolled from the top to bottom. Portrait is the most efficient viewing method for this. The iPhone X gives more real estate than a Plus in this regard.

And the argument that a 1080p video is larger on a Plus than an iPhone X. Well duh! The iPhone X is barely larger than a non Plus iPhone. You’re also “trying” to compare two completely different screen aspect ratios directly to each other. A 16:9 video needs to size down to fit properly on an X due to the longer ratio of the screen. A Plus does not, because it’s screen is natively 16:9.
 
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Based on the points people have made, if they truely care about screen real estate, they would be viewing things like web browsing in portrait anyways. The vast majority of content on a phone is meant to be viewed/scrolled from the top to bottom.

I agree for the most part. To play devils advocate I would say when web browsing in portrait mode is the only time the plus truly has an advantage because it has nearly 1/4 inch more screen width (on the narrow end.) This is important for me because small text is hard (of me and my bad eyes) to read and thats exaggerated when using portrait mode.
 
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I agree for the most part. To play devils advocate I would say when web browsing in portrait mode is the only time the plus truly has an advantage because it has nearly 1/4 inch more screen width (on the narrow end.) This is important for me because small text is hard (of me and my bad eyes) to read and thats exaggerated when using portrait mode.

True on the width, but gains that and more in height. Which in turn means less scrolling.
 
You are mistaken. On their developer site, Apple specifically states the screen width of the X matches the screen width of the 6, 7, and 8.

This is their exact statement—“In portrait orientation, the width of the display on iPhone X matches the width of the 4.7" displays of iPhone 6, iPhone 7, and iPhone 8.”
-https://developer.apple.com/ios/human-interface-guidelines/overview/iphone-x/

No I'm not, that's developer guidelines. The iphone X HAS a wider screen than the iphone 8, period, stop spreading misleading information
 
I have a feeling that a lot of these people moaning about the white bars in landscape probably don’t even use their phone in landscape a lot anyways. It’s more a reason for them to hate on the “notch”.

Based on the points people have made, if they truely care about screen real estate, they would be viewing things like web browsing in portrait anyways. The vast majority of content on a phone is meant to be viewed/scrolled from the top to bottom. Portrait is the most efficient viewing method for this. The iPhone X gives more real estate than a Plus in this regard.

And the argument that a 1080p video is larger on a Plus than an iPhone X. Well duh! The iPhone X is barely larger than a non Plus iPhone. You’re also “trying” to compare two completely different screen aspect ratios directly to each other. A 16:9 video needs to size down to fit properly on an X due to the longer ratio of the screen. A Plus does not, because it’s screen is natively 16:9.

Oh so now you assume us people dont use landscape and complain over petty nonsense.
A joy to read.
 
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lol @ all the people who act like they knew this all along. No, you did not. You didn't know until articles like this came out.

I'm fairly technologically literate, and I was totally fooled by the 5.8'' screen size, thinking it would be larger than the 5.5'' screen on the Plus models. I did not know it all along, and was quite surprised to learn of the actual usable size, not even taking the notch into account.
 
Oh so now you assume us people dont use landscape and complain over petty nonsense.
A joy to read.

It wouldn’t surprise me one bit on these forums. Complaining over petty nonsense is quite the norm around here.
 
lol @ all the people who act like they knew this all along. No, you did not. You didn't know until articles like this came out.

I'm fairly technologically literate, and I was totally fooled by the 5.8'' screen size, thinking it would be larger than the 5.5'' screen on the Plus models. I did not know it all along, and was quite surprised to learn of the actual usable size, not even taking the notch into account.

I call them justifiers..
It wouldn’t surprise me one bit on these forums. Complaining over petty nonsense is quite the norm around here.

You might as well stop reading many forums on the internet then.
 
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lol @ all the people who act like they knew this all along. No, you did not. You didn't know until articles like this came out.

I'm fairly technologically literate, and I was totally fooled by the 5.8'' screen size, thinking it would be larger than the 5.5'' screen on the Plus models. I did not know it all along, and was quite surprised to learn of the actual usable size, not even taking the notch into account.

It was fairly obvious if you bothered to look at any of the photos even once. Apple supplied plenty of documentation day one.
 
ok. thanks.
but still i suspect in real time landscape usage many apps will appear smaller thus more equivalent to the smaller Iphone size.
and i do not accept the "mostly portrait" usage. either you use the whole real estate or you don't.
most scenarios cripple the x's landscape screen real estate.
a phone that benefits mostly portrait at 1000$+ is very frustrating, not only for me.

the only time i use the phone in landscape is for watching some youtube video. really don't use it for anything else. but even that is rare. i usually watch it on the macbook.

and i don't want a wider phone. and since apple can't magically make the screen wider than the device itself, this is the limit. (well almost, there is still a small bezel on both sides)

the X is an advanced version of the 4.7'' phone and you'll just have to wait for next year. you just want it to be something it can't be.
 
the only time i use the phone in landscape is for watching some youtube video. really don't use it for anything else. but even that is rare. i usually watch it on the macbook.

and i don't want a wider phone. and since apple can't magically make the screen wider than the device itself, this is the limit. (well almost, there is still a small bezel on both sides)

the X is an advanced version of the 4.7'' phone and you'll just have to wait for next year. you just want it to be something it can't be.

well you are another example within millions upon millions of users. so?
i use my phone for many readings and enjoy landscape a lot.

anyway, of course my best option is to wait it out till a bigger model.
but it is very annoying that the notch business, white bars, etc, prevent me from considering this as an option,
because still, i DID think i could compromise for a slightly smaller screen, with the new bezel less design, UHD screen, camera.

i DO need a better camera these days. but upgrading to an 8+ is really a pointless waste of money atm (+ no OIS on tele)
 
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lol @ all the people who act like they knew this all along. No, you did not. You didn't know until articles like this came out.

I'm fairly technologically literate, and I was totally fooled by the 5.8'' screen size, thinking it would be larger than the 5.5'' screen on the Plus models. I did not know it all along, and was quite surprised to learn of the actual usable size, not even taking the notch into account.

It was always pretty obvious that the screen is narrower than a Plus. The dimensions and aspect ratio were known from leaks before the keynote even happened. It’s definitely something that’s caused a lot of confusion, but this is not actually new information. I just posted this video because, as usual, Lisa explains it very well.
 
I do like the Plus size, so I hope it doesn't "feel" too much smaller, but it may because of the bezels too.

The HEIGHT is a big deal, I use my phone that way most of the time. Horizontal video will be a tad smaller, but again, that is less use case for me than portrait scrolling.
 
The video explained it for those having a hard time of it.

The loss of TouchID, the notch, etc...ruled out the new phone for the get-go (for me). The fact that the screen is bigger than the 4.7" is just as important.

I want my phone to be easy to use as possible one-handed.

The most gorgeous screen in the world slapped on the iPhone isn't going to be do me much good if my fingers struggle to reach all parts of the screen or the on-screen keyboard. Same goes for typing accuracy.

One-handed use ranks right up there as a priority with any phone...ignore it if you wish.
 
Why are people confused??

It's true, 16:9 video will look bigger on the 8+.

But anything in Portrait orientation, most of the things people do on a phone, there is more real estate for scrolling lists on the X. (Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, News, Reddit, websites, banking apps, App Store etc etc)
Removing scrolling is worthless though. It’s scrolling, it’s the easiest possible navigation on the device and 99.9% of the time you’ll scroll long before you read an entire page, and in fact the vast majority of people probably keep their eyes largely stationary and scroll content into the same area when reading, as opposed to scanning down the page.

In order for the increased height to be useful, new elements must be placed in apps which otherwise were impossible to place there because the main content would’ve become too small. For example, buttons where they otherwise would’ve been elsewhere or on another page, etc.
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I do like the Plus size, so I hope it doesn't "feel" too much smaller, but it may because of the bezels too.

The HEIGHT is a big deal, I use my phone that way most of the time. Horizontal video will be a tad smaller, but again, that is less use case for me than portrait scrolling.
Portrait scrolling being removed negligibly is the absolute worst way to justify and use the increased height. If that’s all developers do then there was no reason to reduce the top and bottom bezels.
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lol @ all the people who act like they knew this all along. No, you did not. You didn't know until articles like this came out.

I'm fairly technologically literate, and I was totally fooled by the 5.8'' screen size, thinking it would be larger than the 5.5'' screen on the Plus models. I did not know it all along, and was quite surprised to learn of the actual usable size, not even taking the notch into account.
You’re not very technologically literate if you don’t know that a much narrower device (and therefore screen), results in a smaller 16:9 display area.
 
The most important difference is that the keyboard on a Plus device is significantly larger than on the X. The keys on the Plus are wider and taller and therefore so much easier to hit. People who have been used to the wider screen of the Plus are going to have a hard time going back to a narrower screen.

And yes, apps with a scrollable view will show you more content, but the content will be smaller. If you use Instagram as an example, photos look bigger on the wide Plus screen than on the narrow X screen. Again, most Plus users will not be happy with the X.
 
The only people that should be fooled are those who went out and bought a 37" HDTV replacing their 32" boob tube and were left scratching their head trying to figure out why it's so much smaller.
 
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