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Cool. So where was your post before the keynote again? I keep seeing people post links to articles about Androids, and general leaks about the notch from the home pod, but not a single one of you, even with perfect hindsight, has posted an article regarding the X and it's specific screen dimensions. Or even better yet to prove your point, since this was so obvious, link to your personal post about the screen dimensions/size.

Get over yourselves.
No idea, I doubt I posted anything about it. Maybe I didn’t think about it either, but just because you and I didn’t think about it, doesn’t mean others who were more keen on aspect ratios, didn’t.
 
No idea, I doubt I posted anything about it. Maybe I didn’t think about it either, but just because you and I didn’t think about it, doesn’t mean others who were more keen on aspect ratios, didn’t.

You didn't post anything because you didn't know anything. Again, quit fronting and using the information you know now to pretend like you knew all along.

Same with a bunch of other insecure people here.

And I am not sure what the problem with reading comprehension is, but my whole point is that other people knew before I did. There is no issue with this point. In fact, I even said, I learned this from articles released after the keynote, and from twitter posts from developers and people retweeting from developers.

Let me rehash this whole argument for you:

people discussing the narrower screen and safe areas killing screen real estate

a handful of insecure people going off on everyone: "how could you guys not know? this was obvious. we knew since before the keynote."

Me: "You didn't know since before the keynote. Stop trying to use hindsight and put people down for not knowing. I didn't know, and I am pretty technologically literate."

some people: "You aren't technologically literate, because if you were, it would be obvious. We knew because we knew. It was obvious because here are the specs. Look at these articles on Android, and on the home pod leaks that show the general shape of the screen with the notch."
 
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You didn't post anything because you didn't know anything. Again, quit fronting and using the information you know now to pretend like you knew all along.

Same with a bunch of other insecure people here.

And I am not sure what the problem with reading comprehension is, but my whole point is that other people knew before I did. There is no issue with this point. In fact, I even said, I learned this from articles released after the keynote, and from twitter posts from developers and people retweeting from developers.

I don't understand what you're being so disagreeable about. The keynote didn't actually provide any new information about the screen dimensions, just confirmed what people had been reporting since the summer. I'm not trying to claim that I did the math and figured this out prior to the keynote, but others did so enough to at least suspect this. I don't get why this is hard to accept. o_O
 
I don't understand what you're being so disagreeable about. The keynote didn't actually provide any new information about the screen dimensions, just confirmed what people had been reporting since the summer. I'm not trying to claim that I did the math and figured this out prior to the keynote, but others did so enough to at least suspect this. I don't get why this is hard to accept. o_O
The guy is highly insecure about being wrong hahaha, and he’s projecting that onto others. Common psychological protection mechanism. It’s cool though, that’s just being human.
 
The guy is highly insecure about being wrong hahaha, and he’s projecting that onto others. Common psychological protection mechanism. It’s cool though, that’s just being human.

lol. You do know where this whole "insecure" thing came from right?

So I say you are insecure because you have to be smug and rub it in peoples' faces when they didn't know about the screen issue, and the best you can do is use the same word to say we are insecure because we didn't know?

What am I wrong about? I said I didn't know that the 5.8'' screen was going to be narrower than the Plus models. I didn't know until the articles and tweets came out after the Keynote. I openly admitted that. In fact, that was my point. I could care less.

My security and self worth doesn't rely on rubbing hindsight in peoples' faces. Sorry, bud.

But, please do, again, link us to your post detailing the screen info....or are you just taking other peoples' knowledge and passing it off as your own.
 
Cool. So where was your post before the keynote again? I keep seeing people post links to articles about Androids, and general leaks about the notch from the home pod, but not a single one of you, even with perfect hindsight, has posted an article regarding the X and it's specific screen dimensions. Or even better yet to prove your point, since this was so obvious, link to your personal post about the screen dimensions/size.

Get over yourselves.

Your reasoning is completely circular: "it's obvious because it's obvious. These are the specs because we know these are the specs."

Yeah, we know now. After the keynote. After developers commented. After articles were written.

Show me YOUR post before any of the releases about how this was obvious.
I guess your argument is that because Apple hadn’t specifically stated what the device is, no one could have known?

False. We knew what the device would be because evidence led us to a >95% confidence level in what it would be. That’s what science is. It’s collecting evidence to gain a statistical likelihood that an event will repeat or an event will occur, or will not.

We knew the device was slightly larger than the 4.7” physical size, while having a 5.8” Display, with a massive reduction in the top and bottom bezels. And that right there is all the information needed.
 
I guess your argument is that because Apple hadn’t specifically stated what the device is, no one could have known?

False. We knew what the device would be because evidence led us to a >95% confidence level in what it would be. That’s what science is. It’s collecting evidence to gain a statistical likelihood that an event will repeat or an event will occur, or will not.

We knew the device was slightly larger than the 4.7” physical size, while having a 5.8” Display, with a massive reduction in the top and bottom bezels.

https://imgur.com/aCtarZB

Ok, Dwight. lol

But no, my point is not that no one could have known. My point is that you, and a handful of smug people here didn't. It is that you are being obnoxious by taking information you got from developers, just like the rest of us, and pass it off as your own saying that you knew all along.

You did not. If you did, link to your post.

That is my whole point: how insecure must you be to take information you got from another person/source, pass it off as your own or that it was obvious, and then rub it in other peoples' faces.
 
Let me rehash this whole argument for you:

Please don’t. It was a dumb argument the first time through. Some people knew before you did, some after. Some knew or guessed before the keynote. To some it’s obvious and some will need pictures and still not get it.

Let it go. Most of us don’t really care who knew what when. That’s not why we clicked on the thread. I’m trying to learn new stuff here and I’m tired of reading about various folks insecurities. If you have an issue with a poster, take it to a private message.
 
Please don’t. It was a dumb argument the first time through. Some people knew before you did, some after. Some knew or guessed before the keynote. To some it’s obvious and some will need pictures and still not get it.

Let it go. Most of us don’t really care who knew what when. That’s not why we clicked on the thread. I’m trying to learn new stuff here and I’m tired of reading about various folks insecurities. If you have an issue with a poster, take it to a private message.

I think you got the wrong guy, because was coming to the defense of people discussing the screen.

It's the other guys you want saying that this thread is unnecessary because this information is obvious and we knew this all along.

Also really starting to regret using the word insecure, because people can't seem to stop using it. But I guess that's what happens with people who love passing something they read off as their own.
 
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Please don’t. It was a dumb argument the first time through. Some people knew before you did, some after. Some knew or guessed before the keynote. To some it’s obvious and some will need pictures and still not get it.

Let it go. Most of us don’t really care who knew what when. That’s not why we clicked on the thread. I’m trying to learn new stuff here and I’m tired of reading about various folks insecurities. If you have an issue with a poster, take it to a private message.

Can I like this more than once? I don't get what's going on here.
 
Hope you know you are supporting your own detractors, and trying to passively insult the guy who was supporting your thread including the discussion of the screen.

What are you even talking about? I didn't try to insult anyone, passively or otherwise. And I wasn't aware that I had detractors here. I honestly don't understand what people are even arguing about.
 
The UI will have the same spacing/width as the standard 8 (375 points). But the screen itself is physically a bit wider (by 7%) which means everything will appear slightly larger and easier to read due to the increase in scaling. The height increase is obvious. Landscape is the main issue, but it's not used anywhere near as often as portrait orientation..
 
One of the main reasons I will purchase the X is because it gives me the screen size of an iPhone 7 Plus in the size of the iPhone 7.

No, it won't. The X size is in between the 7 and 7+ and the viewable screen will be smaller than the 7+. (5.0") That was kind of the point of this thread, to let you know that the 5.8" screen size is misleading.
 

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No, it won't. The X size is in between the 7 and 7+ and the viewable screen will be smaller than the 7+. (5.0") That was kind of the point of this thread, to let you know that the 5.8" screen size is misleading.

What it gains in height over the Plus out weights the width the Plus IMO. Most content is viewed in portrait. They both are bigger than each other, but it depends on what and how you’re viewing it.

Portrait - iPhone X will overall show more content.

Landscape - Plus will have a larger view and use the full screen (especially videos)
 
What it gains in height over the Plus out weights the width the Plus IMO. Most content is viewed in portrait. They both are bigger than each other, but it depends on what and how you’re viewing it.

Portrait - iPhone X will overall show more content.

Landscape - Plus will have a larger view and use the full screen (especially videos)

In portrait it has ears and the notch at the top and at the bottom it will have the bar to swipe to home. The devs will have to place icons above the swipe bar, which will mean less content space in portrait
 
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In portrait it has ears and the notch at the top and at the bottom it will have the bar to swipe to home. The devs will have to place icons above the swipe bar, which will mean less content space in portrait

The ears will contain the status bar info, therefore removing that from the existing screen space can use. Giving a little extra space up top. And for the bottom. The space used for the “home bar” is significantly smaller than the space gained of removing the entire bottom chin bezel. Therefore most space is gain on the bottom too. Mockups have already shown that more content (for example a website) will be shown vertically before having to scroll on a 10 vs a Plus.
 
The ears will contain the status bar info, therefore removing that from the existing screen space can use. Giving a little extra space up top. And for the bottom. The space used for the “home bar” is significantly smaller than the space gained of removing the entire bottom chin bezel. Therefore most space is gain on the bottom too. Mockups have already shown that more content (for example a website) will be shown vertically before having to scroll on a 10 vs a Plus.

More vertical space will indeed allow for less scrolling on websites, but the whole reason why mobile sites exist is because most web pages are actually better viewed on a wider screen. ie. think about how wide a laptop or desktop monitor is compared to its height, or even the 4:3 ratio of an iPad, which most of the formerly taller narrower Android tablets have now adopted. Less scrolling or not, most web pages make use of width in their design. This, and other productivity apps, is why the iPad Pro, Surface Pro, and other “productivity” tablets are designed to be used in landscape for most tasks.
 
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More vertical space will indeed allow for less scrolling on websites, but the whole reason why mobile sites exist is because most web pages are actually better viewed on a wider screen. ie. think about how wide a laptop or desktop monitor is compared to its height, or even the 4:3 ratio of an iPad, which most of the formerly taller narrower Android tablets have now adopted. Less scrolling or not, most web pages make use of width in their design. This, and other productivity apps, is why the iPad Pro, Surface Pro, and other “productivity” tablets are designed to be used in landscape for most tasks.

Most website are built to natively change to any and all screen size/shapes (it’s called responsive design.) So saying websites are built for widescreen primarily is somewhat false. Go ahead and load up a website on your computer and with the mouse move the size and shape of the browser window and watch it shift and change to the screen size/shape.

A phone is not a iPad. A phone is mainly meant to be used in portrait orientation.
 
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The ears will contain the status bar info, therefore removing that from the existing screen space can use. Giving a little extra space up top. And for the bottom. The space used for the “home bar” is significantly smaller than the space gained of removing the entire bottom chin bezel. Therefore most space is gain on the bottom too. Mockups have already shown that more content (for example a website) will be shown vertically before having to scroll on a 10 vs a Plus.

I see your point, but this is what I was referring too. I just meant that you would still not have use of the whole 5.8" screen in portrait or landscape since the diagnal measurements are to the top of the ears
 

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No it doesn’t because of the iOS dash st the bottom of the screen.


Why are chosing to ignore everybody who is disagreeing with you with logic?

The screen on the X IS Bigger, it IS Taller, it IS a higher resolution, it DOES allow longer scrollable lists, it WILL allow more usuable space on apps like Facebook, Twitter, News, Instagram, Safari (in Portrait), Reddit, (and many more pretty popular apps) etc etc

Sure 16:9 video will look smaller, buts thats 1 application.

Movies in 2.39:1 will looks bigger by the way. Just another application.
 
Screen width is at a premium on smart phones, which are primarily used in portrait orientation. More width equals better browsing experience and a larger keyboard, among other things.

I admit that after getting on the hype train with regards to X having a larger screen than the plus, I was quite shocked to realize that the keyboard would be only 7 percent larger on the X as on my 6.

Screen height has never been a problem and I'm disappointed that most of the additional space in X is in fact in height.

I do wonder if it would be better to wait for the X plus.
 
Here are the actual dimensions

iPhone X vs iPhone 8 vs iPhone 8 Plus Total Size & Weight
Width: 2.79 inches (70.9 mm) | 2.65 inches (67.3 mm) | 3.07 inches (78.1 mm).
Height: 5.65 inches (143.6 mm) | 5.45 inches (138.4 mm) | 6.24 inches (158.4 mm).
Depth: 0.30 inch (7.7 mm) | 0.29 inch (7.3 mm) | 0.30 inch (7.5 mm).
Weight: 6.14 ounces (174 grams) | 5.22 ounces (148 grams) | Weight: 7.13 ounces (202 grams).

iPhone X vs iPhone 8 vs iPhone 8 Plus Screen Size
Width: 2.46 inches (62.4 mm) | 2.30 inches (58.44 mm) | 2.69 inches (68.41 mm).
Height: 5.32 inches (135.1 mm) | 4.09 inches (103.94 mm) | 4.79 inches (121.62 mm).

iPhone X vs iPhone 8 vs iPhone 8 Plus Resolution
Width: 1125 | 750 | 1080.
Height: 2436 | 1334 | 1920.
Pixel Density: 458 ppi | 326 ppi | 401 ppi.
Could you please provide the source of this information?
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I did not know the X's screen was narrower than the 6/7/8
I think you meant to say Plus models because the X’s screen is at least the same width of the non-plus models
 
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