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The Vega RX Thread (Rumors and Info)
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From what I've read it's just the standard response they're giving to the press/media/bloggers. Since your Finnish/Swedish clearly isn't up to scratch, hothardware.com claim to have received this same bit of blurb from AMD directly.
Disclaimer: I have no idea how reliable a source the folks at hothardware are. Information provided is solely for the use of the Finnish-inept.
Oh come on now... Either you have a comprehension problem or you're acting in bad faith.
AMD announced the card at Siggraph for $499 and after the reviews are out they're selling it for $599.
That $499 was a bait and switch.
The fact that this discussion is going back in forth like this just proves this is not an ideal launch for AMD. I think AMD knew for a while they couldn't beat PASCAL based GPU's from NVIDIA and where just waiting as long as they could, but they couldn't avoid the inevitable. Maybe less prerelease hype?? After this long of a wait AMD should have figured out their plan of attack. This just feels sloppy. The only thing I can assume is that this is an expensive card to build and the margins are very very slim. 31MH/s to 35MH/s for mining doesn't seem high enough to clean out the supply.. Maybe something more sinister is afoot I'm not saying it's aliens... but it's aliens.
I'm not saying it's aliens... but it's aliens.
About the price (08:16):
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Well, now NVidia isn't in any rush to release Volta since they don't really have any competition and demand/sales of pascal based gpus have picked up after vega's lukewarm reviews. This gives a chance to nvidia to take a bit more time and release an even better optimized product, one which AMD may have an even harder task to compete with it.
Well, now NVidia isn't in any rush to release Volta since they don't really have any competition and demand/sales of pascal based gpus have picked up after vega's lukewarm reviews. This gives a chance to nvidia to take a bit more time and release an even better optimized product, one which AMD may have an even harder task to compete with it.
Unless, of course, ATI quoted low prices just to get "launch buzz" even though they planned to raise them immediately after launch.
There have been so many ATI fans touting "TFLOPs per dollar" and "FPS per dollar" and "watts per dollar" that ATI could have hoped to get some mindshare about performance per dollar before launch - and then move the goalposts after launch.
ATI is playing you all for chumps....
Couldn't help but laugh at the ad placement....
I'm pretty sure that ATI cards have been pushed as lower priced than Pascal cards around here.
I think Apple over estimates the demand for the iMac Pro just because the word "Pro" is slapped on the computer. I work in Film and TV and I represent the exact demographic that Apple is trying to win back. Not one person I work with or I talk tech with in this industry thinks the iMac Pro is worth investing in. Everyone in my industry is pretty unimpressed and will wait to see what this modular MacPro is all about.
CG, Animation, VFX and High End Post moved to PC/Linux and I don't see an iMac Pro brining vendors and freelancers back to MacOS in droves.
NOW for the guy that walks into the Apple store and says
"Hello Apple Genius Bar, I have million dollar bills in my account, I want to make Hollywood Movie Film. I see add on TV box. Sell me Hollywood Make Movie stuff.."
The Apple Employee will point to their Hollywood Movie Package. An iMac Pro with a "Red Raven" Bundle. I think that is the demographic they are shooting for.
Also the "Red Raven" bundle is a pretty good deal if you are buying Red new, their are better deals for EPIC in the used market, but maybe someone buying the "Red Raven" bundle will just toss some iMac Pro's on top for fun.
Who knows... I feel like Apple is just winging it.. Apples attention to the Pro market represents about 5%-10% of the company R&D. 90% of the company R&D is still Social Media and Emoji Professionals.
AMD does not have enough R&D to produce good drivers. Primitive Shaders for gaming and High Bandwidth Cache Controller as a general feature are still "off" in drivers, tho, HBCC can be turned on in Crimson settings, but it is still limited to maximum 64 GB.
In current state of drivers the GPU is massively bottlenecked by drivers. Its unfinished product. For me, it is unfortunately for AMD, not worth a pennie, in current state. Vega 56 can be considered good value, but IMO, AMD did huge mistake with pushing the voltages and frequency out of process and design comfort zone.
However. There are at least signs that there is future in GCN5.
This is with AA off. Look at minimum framerates. Almost at the same level as averages for 1080. Everything tanks when you push AA, and other features that rely on high geometry throughut. This case shows true potential in Vega GPUs. When this situation we will see in other games? I suppose god only knows at this point.
Today this is AMD's statement regarding the prices:
Radeon RX Vega 64 demand continues to exceed expectations. AMD is working closely with its partners to address this demand. Our initial launch quantities included standalone Radeon RX Vega 64 at SEP of $499, Radeon RX Vega 64 Black Packs at SEP of $599, and Radeon RX Vega 64 Aqua Packs at SEP of $699. We are working with our partners to restock all SKUs of Radeon RX Vega 64 including the standalone cards and Gamer Packs over the next few weeks, and you should expect quantities of Vega to start arriving in the coming days.
I think this end any discussion about prices.
In current state of drivers the GPU is massively bottlenecked by drivers. Its unfinished product. For me, it is unfortunately for AMD, not worth a pennie, in current state. Vega 56 can be considered good value, but IMO, AMD did huge mistake with pushing the voltages and frequency out of process and design comfort zone.
However. There are at least signs that there is future in GCN5.
This is with AA off. Look at minimum framerates. Almost at the same level as averages for 1080. Everything tanks when you push AA, and other features that rely on high geometry throughut. This case shows true potential in Vega GPUs. When this situation we will see in other games? I suppose god only knows at this point.
Today this is AMD's statement regarding the prices:
Radeon RX Vega 64 demand continues to exceed expectations. AMD is working closely with its partners to address this demand. Our initial launch quantities included standalone Radeon RX Vega 64 at SEP of $499, Radeon RX Vega 64 Black Packs at SEP of $599, and Radeon RX Vega 64 Aqua Packs at SEP of $699. We are working with our partners to restock all SKUs of Radeon RX Vega 64 including the standalone cards and Gamer Packs over the next few weeks, and you should expect quantities of Vega to start arriving in the coming days.
I think this end any discussion about prices.
AMD just quotes specs of DX12, and Vulkan. When Nvidia will start hyping it up, with Volta, Im sure suddenly the view for this will change.
It is not with AA off, it is with CMAA, which is an image-based method (trick). These are much lighter than scene-based ones.
Depends where you are looking. If you are aiming for GTX 1080/107- levels of performance - sure.
AMD does not have enough R&D to produce good drivers. Primitive Shaders for gaming and High Bandwidth Cache Controller as a general feature are still "off" in drivers, tho, HBCC can be turned on in Crimson settings, but it is still limited to maximum 64 GB.
In current state of drivers the GPU is massively bottlenecked by drivers. Its unfinished product. For me, it is unfortunately for AMD, not worth a pennie, in current state. Vega 56 can be considered good value, but IMO, AMD did huge mistake with pushing the voltages and frequency out of process and design comfort zone.
However. There are at least signs that there is future in GCN5.
This is with AA off. Look at minimum framerates. Almost at the same level as averages for 1080. Everything tanks when you push AA, and other features that rely on high geometry throughut. This case shows true potential in Vega GPUs. When this situation we will see in other games? I suppose god only knows at this point.
Today this is AMD's statement regarding the prices:
Radeon RX Vega 64 demand continues to exceed expectations. AMD is working closely with its partners to address this demand. Our initial launch quantities included standalone Radeon RX Vega 64 at SEP of $499, Radeon RX Vega 64 Black Packs at SEP of $599, and Radeon RX Vega 64 Aqua Packs at SEP of $699. We are working with our partners to restock all SKUs of Radeon RX Vega 64 including the standalone cards and Gamer Packs over the next few weeks, and you should expect quantities of Vega to start arriving in the coming days.
I think this end any discussion about prices.
AMD just quotes specs of DX12, and Vulkan. When Nvidia will start hyping it up, with Volta, Im sure suddenly the view for this will change.
That's one game, not a trend.