I wouldn't mind if they put it in 9.1 but so far, judging by the betas, there is no improvement. Especially on their newest flagship phone.
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They should let us disable metal
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I've seen improvements in the pull down spotlight and inside the Music app (the sliding animation when going into and out of an artist) with 9.1 beta 4 vs 9.1 beta 3. Beta 3 was a dog inside the Music app, still not omg amazing but it did get a lot better between the two builds.
Yes, because the entire reason most of us are Apple fans is that we don't have a million technical settings to go through in the menus. Other companies offer that but it's not the Apple way.
Remember these good old days?
That's about the time period where I started urging family members to get Macs. I was tired of helping them with stuff like this all of the time.
Now, I'm all for the accessibility features on the iPhone that help people out who need it. But "disabling metal" crosses a line into "Disable Script Debugging" territory.
Once we start down that path I would say you've taken the Apple-ness out of the iPhone. So, yeah, I am going to push back against that concept. It does affect me.
And before we know it , Apple will have Siri making everyone's decisions for them.
You're wrong.
I want it to be tweaked for a smoother experience. I just don't see the rational of staying on 8.4.1, when my experience with iOS 9 tells me it's more stable. I understand your frustration, but try to understand that not everyone is concerned that iOS 9 fluidity isn't perfect at the moment.
Have you forgotten how not smooth iOS 8 was, when initially released? I remember. Some who are touting 8.4.1 have forgotten.
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It's extremely smooth for me, and for any iDevice I've seen running it, all the way down to the iPad Air, iPhone 5, and iPod touch 6th gen.
If you compare iOS 9 and 8.4.1 side by side, it's like night and day in terms of performance, on pretty much every device.
But not stable for me. Safari crashed multiple times a day on my 6+ and 8.4.1. On iOS 9, no crashes. Not a one. No amount of side by side comparisons could make me want to go back to an unstable Safari.
Safari is now a dream to use. It was a nightmare in iOS 8. Love iOS 9. Just love it!
How about comparing iOS 9.0 to iOS 8.0?
And there's certainly that too--a number of threads in the iOS 8 forum with people using iOS 8.4 and having performance issues at times, reboots, etc.
I don't get this whole stability thing with 8.4.1->9.0. I never had a lot of crashes or "A problem occurred" safari popups with iOS 8 but now on iOS 9 probably at least a few times a week this happens: I will open messages, quickly tap the compose new message button, and it immediately crashes. When I go back into the app, it's at the compose new message screen. Some for safari when quickly going to tab view after opening, FaceTime for quickly switching to audio tab instead of video.. Happens a few times a week on both my iPad and iPhone. Never had a crash on 8 and the "problem occurred" message would only rear its ugly head 1-2 times a month on my iPad, NEVER on my iPhone 6. Now I see it somewhat often on both. Clean installs haven't helped.
I'd say 8.0 was significantly more stable than 9.0 was when it was released, actually. At least on the 5s. Didn't see how it was on other devices.
That would be quite a bit the opposite of what many experienced when it came to
iOS 8.0 (as many threads about it around this time last year would attest to).
This is too funny. iOS 9 runs really good on my iPhone 6.
Seems like people forget quickly. This isn't even remotely close to the stuttery laggy mess we got with iOS 7.0 and 8.0.
Seems like people forget quickly. This isn't even remotely close to the stuttery laggy mess we got with iOS 7.0 and 8.0.
Unfortunately the same can be said about people having issues. Nearly all of them are absolutely not interested in finding the solution whatsoever. Apparently they just want to vent (and yes I'm being extremely diplomatic and positive by saying that). There is a complete lack of wanting to find the solution.
Neither do they care that their own is not working since they are declining any and all solutions/workarounds by flaming people trying to help/understand the issue. So if they don't care then why should I care? And that's how issues stay issues...
It won't do much because for quite a lot of things apps need to be changed to take full use of the new Metal APIs (in other words, they are still using the old way). We've had some games that implemented Metal but not ordinary apps. The same can be said for all of the other iOS9 features. It simply takes time and we see issues disappear after app updates (I'm seeing quite a big difference with some apps with the version that isn't iOS9 optimised and the one that is, also check out this topic about iOS9 compatible apps). Having the option to go back might give a little bit more performance because there probably want be a translation from OpenGL to Metal (under the assumption there is even one) but when apps have been updated to use the new APIs it won't matter any more.
Btw, this is a very good example of those people not interested in the issue or any solution:
Heaven forbid someone has a different experience than you...
It is easier to change the colour of ones car then to change the entire bodywork. Disabling some of the motions is just much simpler to do then switching to a completely different graphics render engine. You are vastly overestimating the change.
Usually they implement something and layer some kind of compatibility layer on top of that so legacy stuff still works. After a while they delete that layer. This setup is solely for legacy support because it will have a negative effect on performance. If in this case you were to disable Metal you'd switch to OpenGL which has to be translated back to Metal. In other words, it will become even slower due to the extra translation layer. There is no guarantee that Apple is doing it like this nor for any of the other possibilities due to the company still being one big blackbox.
Not interested in finding a solution? What makes you think that? IF there was a solution you don't think we would be taking advantage of it?
Thanks for the laugh. If someone is honestly using "night and day" to describe the difference between iOS 8 and iOS 9 he shouldn't have the right to post in such threads.
This time last year iOS 8 was so oh my gosh unusable and so laggy and now it's used as the holy grail of speed. Seriously?
This time last year wasn't iOS 8.4.1 we were talking about.
I also have a 6 on 9.1 beta 4. It's not smooth as silk. Maybe you think so, but compare it to an iPhone 5 and then you'll know what smooth is.
I have an iPhone 5. I handed it down to my daughter. I've compared them. It's as smooth as I told you it was.
And incidentally, I just went over to my wife's iPhone 6 running 9.0.2. No issues there either. Control Center, Notifications tab up top, flicking up for the camera from the lock screen, all as smooth as my daughter's iPhone 5.
i have a 6 on 9.0.2. just reset settings, and it does seem smoother. down side is i had to set up touch id from scratch again. plus i have to re-allow any location based services.
i'm attempting to be mindful of what i re-enable, however i wonder if once i get whatever i need turned back on, it'll be back to the way it was.
i'm attempting to be mindful of what i re-enable, however i wonder if once i get whatever i need turned back on, it'll be back to the way it was.