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mi7chy

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Samsung browser is based on Chromium. It's pretty much Chrome with some additional features like built-in ad block extension, QR code scanner, jump to top shortcut, new tab appearing on top instead of behind, etc. Both use Blink rendering engine which has surpassed Safari Webkit for years in compliance, stability, scrolling speed, etc.

https://html5test.com/results/desktop.html

Interchangeably use both but Samsung browser with Adguard browser only ad blocking is less resource hungry than Chrome with Adguard system wide ad blocking. All my apps are purchased so there's no need for system wide ad blocking. Both perform equivalently so any difference is probably due to having an ad blocker on one but not the other.

Another thing you can't do on iPhone is use a desktop browser on Google Play store to centrally manage and install apps selectively to any device. Convenient if you own several devices and don't have to physically touch each device.
 
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Zaft

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jamezr

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Just wondering, if you are so dissatisfied with apple why are you even on this website? I don’t get it. All you do is bash apple.

That didn’t seem like bashing to me. That was more reporting the facts. Apple has done exactly what he said. Then do you remember last couple years when everyone wanted the TSMC chips in their iPhone 7 over the Samsung ones because they benchmarked faster? People were returning their iPhones so they could have the faster models.
This is the same thing. This time Apple got out in front of it and disabled some functionality so they would benchmark close to the same.
This has been reported here in MR and on a ton of sites.
 

mi7chy

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Apologizing doesn't do anybody any good except for big corporations. On the other hand, it's the pro-consumer activists that are forcing Apple to improve their products. We know Apple are reading these forums because every time we discuss a weak point they leak a response such as for bigger display, more DRAM, OLED, pen support, stronger quality aluminum, HEVC hardware decoding, wireless charging, etc. For example, we just recently discussed Apple using tricks like limiting background multitasking to skimp on smaller more profitable batteries that hurt screen-on time then this comes out.

http://appleinsider.com/articles/17...ed-battery-design-all-models-to-bump-capacity

Lets push them to adopt better Qualcomm radios across the board and enable gigabit LTE. And, add VP9 hardware decoding for YouTube so it doesn't drain battery because any smart consumer should expect more for their money.
 
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LovingTeddy

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Just wondering, if you are so dissatisfied with apple why are you even on this website? I don’t get it. All you do is bash apple.

The whole reason Apple wanted to source parts from different sources so that Apple can squeeze supplier as much as they can. This result difference in quality and sometimes even difference in technology.

Why would someone pay upwarda of 1500 dollars on iPhone should use inferior parts. Even worse, Apple purposely make superior part inferior, just to make parts artificially same? Why should consumer pay for Apple's greed.
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I see this a lot here and it's weird.

Apple is greedy. More people are waking up from Apple's greed. Internet is open and Apple deserve criticism as much as other companies.
 

Klyster

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I've been on this site for a few years as I find the alternative section is better than most Android sites as full-on trolling isn't allowed.

The mods here do a stellar job, thanks mods :)
They've certainly put me in my place a few times.

I first came here for answers when I owned an iPod touch, when Apple charged me for firmware, I ditched the iPod. (it was rubbish anyway..id3 tags were a disaster), no good for the car, I went back to mp3 CD's.
I lurked for years, this was when I was still using feature phones so I wasn't much interested in these subforums rather than the computer side of things and such.

So it's not really weird that people would stay here, it's like a community rather than an Apple sycophant retreat.
If that's your thing, you can always pop on over to Apple insider and worship alongside Bishop DED and co, where anything critical of Apple is shot down immediately, now that place is what I'd call weird.
That and people who should know by now, who will type what but still seemed surprised, even after years of reading the said person...... Weird...
 
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convergent

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I see this a lot here and it's weird.
If it's so weird and you are bothered by it then why are you on the "alternative to iPhones" forum so much? Some of us aren't so blinded by a single company that we are able to talk about pros and cons of different products. If MR didn't want that to happen then they wouldn't have this forum.
 

Zaft

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If it's so weird and you are bothered by it then why are you on the "alternative to iPhones" forum so much? Some of us aren't so blinded by a single company that we are able to talk about pros and cons of different products. If MR didn't want that to happen then they wouldn't have this forum.
There is a difference between having good discussions compared to just stating negatives and spinning anything remotely positive as a negative.
 
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Michael Goff

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That didn’t seem like bashing to me. That was more reporting the facts. Apple has done exactly what he said. Then do you remember last couple years when everyone wanted the TSMC chips in their iPhone 7 over the Samsung ones because they benchmarked faster? People were returning their iPhones so they could have the faster models.
This is the same thing. This time Apple got out in front of it and disabled some functionality so they would benchmark close to the same.
This has been reported here in MR and on a ton of sites.

I thought people were returning them because of battery life issues, which were fixed with a firmware update.
 

LIVEFRMNYC

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Another thing you can't do on iPhone is use a desktop browser on Google Play store to centrally manage and install apps selectively to any device. Convenient if you own several devices and don't have to physically touch each device.

This is an underrated advantage.


I've been on this site for a few years as I find the alternative section is better than most Android sites as full-on trolling isn't allowed.

The mods here do a stellar job, thanks mods :)
They've certainly put me in my place a few times.

I first came here for answers when I owned an iPod touch, when Apple charged me for firmware, I ditched the iPod. (it was rubbish anyway..id3 tags were a disaster), no good for the car, I went back to mp3 CD's.
I lurked for years, this was when I was still using feature phones so I wasn't much interested in these subforums rather than the computer side of things and such.

So it's not really weird that people would stay here, it's like a community rather than an Apple sycophant retreat.
If that's your thing, you can always pop on over to Apple insider and worship alongside Bishop DED and co, where anything critical of Apple is shot down immediately, now that place is what I'd call weird.
That and people who should know by now, who will type what but still seemed surprised, even after years of reading the said person...... Weird...


Yup, I find most Android sites either too messy or too inactive. Plus a lot of Android forums don't allow any threads that are based on comparisons to iOS or iPhone.
 

jamezr

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I thought people were returning them because of battery life issues, which were fixed with a firmware update.
maybe some were for battery issues. But there were whole threads in the iphone section where people were returning iphones that had Samsung chips because the TMSC chips bench marked faster.
 

Zaft

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maybe some were for battery issues. But there were whole threads in the iphone section where people were returning iphones that had Samsung chips because the TMSC chips bench marked faster.
i had the TMSC chip but in general, the 6S 4.7" version had some of the worst battery life. I regret getting that phone.
 

widgeteer

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If it's so weird and you are bothered by it then why are you on the "alternative to iPhones" forum so much? Some of us aren't so blinded by a single company that we are able to talk about pros and cons of different products. If MR didn't want that to happen then they wouldn't have this forum.

If you were legitimately interested in the type of conversation you claim you want, you wouldn’t label those who disagree with you as “blinded” by a single company. You’re using ad hominem attacks to make your point.

Here’s another example:

“So it's not really weird that people would stay here, it's like a community rather than an Apple sycophant retreat.”

Some of you can’t seem to accept people purchase Apple products for the same reasons you purchase whatever your purchase: they work for you in the way you need them to. And it seems you’re insecure in your selections due to spending so much time obsessing over devices you don’t like.

On a forum discussing smartphones, that’s the definition of weird.
 

Klyster

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Well seeing as I was quoted, I can tell you now I'm not insecure in the slightest, I don't obsess over Apple products.
I don't know how you came to such a conclusion but you're totally wrong, in my case anyway.
My response was more about comments that inferred if anyone had anything negative to say about Apple products and they don't own Apple products, why are they even here?
You're not worthy, you're opinion is invalid?
In the alternative to iOS and iOS devices section? Really?

If I thought a thread was setup as a bash/troll thread, I'd probably just ignore it.
If someone kept making posts or replies I deemed troll worthy, I report them to the mods and put them on ignore if I thought that was all they had to offer, it's not hard.

In the meantime, there's some serious derailing going on here.
 
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PPCmike

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  • Downloading apps from the app store over a cellular connection and not getting a notification that a download is too large. I have unlimited data 150 MBps LTE, why do I need to connect to WiFi on my iPad Pro again?
This!!! Apple has to really get rid of that and have it not forced on every phone this really drives me nuts.
 

Tsepz

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Jan 24, 2013
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Let's see...

- Transferring data via WiFi Direct (Photos, Videos and Documents)
- Using the phones as a Mass Storage device to plug into any PC I need to plug in to.
- Expanding Memory when I need to with a Memory Card
- Fast wireless Charging
- Plugging into my TV and BT Keyboard with DeX to get a desktop UI and workspace
- SPen to annotate creatives, grab content from images, Videos and Documents, Translate words and paragraphs
- Multiwindow Multitasking comes in quite handy when using Google Maps and Playing Music
- USB OTG when I needed to transfer over 90GB of Media between my Note8 and S7 Egde
- Home screen Widgets (not just endless app icons) with my Today Screen Setup with Calender, News and Weather always ready
- Batched notifications - truly appreciated as I get at least 150 emails a day just on my work email, and it helps that the android notification bar batches them, truly frustrating to deal with in iOS.
- Proper File System access from all apps


I really could go on, iOS is still severely limited for me, especially for productivity, it still feels like a glorified Feature Phone experience, much like the Sony Ericsson Java phones e.g. the Sony Ericsson Aino, that was a great phone with great PIM features, but it was still limited, iPhone reminds me of this, and this is not a bad thing as it is fantastic for people who simply want to do the basics e.g. phone calls, Web browsing, look at a few emails, text take pictures and watch video.

I still happily recommend iPhone to people who do not expect too much out of a smartphone, which is the majority.

Threads like this is why this forum has become awful. It’s just speed test YouTube videos and people obsessed with telling everyone how much they hate the iPhone.

This thread was actually very objective and insightful until you came in with this.

What exactly is wrong with people talking about what they use in their Androids that they couldn't in the iPhones they have/had?

Or is it a bad thread because it's exposing where iPhones are lacking?
 
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Tsepz

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It looks to me like the threads intent is negative and some of the things listed aren't aspects of Android they're aspects of Samsung and Touch-wiz. This thread also reinforces on this board that Samsung = Android which isn't the case in the slightest. Of all the things listed none are deal breakers to me unless I needed to SSH from my phone, yet Samsung itself is a deal breaker to me. We lost MRU because of this spy vs spy stuff let's not lose anymore contributers because of it.
Errmm,what exactly is Samsung, all I saw was the SPen part that was Samsung, other than that the rest can be attribd to other Androids.

I talk from the Standpoint of having a Galaxy Note8 and a Huawei Mate10 Pro.
 

LIVEFRMNYC

macrumors G3
Oct 27, 2009
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This!!! Apple has to really get rid of that and have it not forced on every phone this really drives me nuts.

Especially when you want to play a game, and you can't without updating first.

Also, not being able to manually set Youtube resolution unless on wifi.
 

PPCmike

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Feb 9, 2012
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Especially when you want to play a game, and you can't without updating first.

Also, not being able to manually set Youtube resolution unless on wifi.
That too what I don't get is why is it still baked in the iOS this day in age? It's like keeping a legacy option around when everything around it is brand new.
 

convergent

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If you were legitimately interested in the type of conversation you claim you want, you wouldn’t label those who disagree with you as “blinded” by a single company. You’re using ad hominem attacks to make your point.

Here’s another example:

“So it's not really weird that people would stay here, it's like a community rather than an Apple sycophant retreat.”

Some of you can’t seem to accept people purchase Apple products for the same reasons you purchase whatever your purchase: they work for you in the way you need them to. And it seems you’re insecure in your selections due to spending so much time obsessing over devices you don’t like.

On a forum discussing smartphones, that’s the definition of weird.
Some of you implies me. I not only accept others buy Apple products. I buy them. Everyone in my family except me has iPhones, most which I bought. I just bought an iPad Pro and Pencil for my daughter.

I just keep running into the same people showing up disrupting discussions about anything else.
 
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Dodgeman

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Question for any Note 8 users.
I keep my phone on vibrate. While I am on a phone call and get a text I get no vibration alert , anyone know a way to turn this on?
 

widgeteer

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I would not mind downloading any ringtone you want. Thats something I enjoyed on Android.

I used to do likewise but now my phone is on vibrate just about all the time, so I couldn't care less. Also I'm older and having a personalized noise for each action just isn't that interesting to me anymore.
 
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