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Dodgeman

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These posts always perplex me on a computer forum. Can't believe people have the nerve to tell people how to spend their own money.

Do you go to the car thread to criticize people as well?

I could buy a really nice GTI and yet I don't.

Lol, 30 huh?
You're right it's his business and his money. I just stated my opinion not facts. Congratulations you have the right to disagree. I don't know his situation and that's great if he has the means to get all those phones, but yes to me it'll be a waste to buy that many phones. Maybe he gets his for free, maybe he buys them.... didn't ask because it doesn't matter to me.
 
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Puddled

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Being an Engineer, I would like to know what your definition of the so called engineering is in fact German and your allusion that it be considered being better.


Much like "It is Apple, It just works!" When in fact it doesn't, German engineering is no better (and probably worse) than everyone else.

Certainly in car manufacture, German cars are unreliable, heavy and expensive. The exact opposite of what "Good engineering" should be.
 

Roadstar

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is it a company phone? if so, can't help. if it's yours, remove it from your IT's exchange policy and simply use OWE via a browser. works seamlessly on mine for both email and calendar. Use google for your contacts as there's no need to keep them on your company server.

It's mine, and while Smart Lock would be nice in the car occasionally (quicker to change a podcast episode while waiting for traffic lights to change), it's not such a dealbreaker that I'd like to make Exchange (which I need pretty much daily) less convenient to use. I also don't want to have to manually duplicate my work contacts to Google, I'd rather get up-to-date versions from the company server instead.
 

Tig Bitties

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One very nice thing on Android even non rooted phones, is the ability to install .APK apps like OG YouTube, which is a free app that has ZERO ads in YouTube and allows downloads of videos / music. And my fav thing is the feature to have it playing in the background, with the screen off, or while surfing a full page website, you can have YouTube playing still.

Does the iPhone have something like that for stock non JB iOS ?
 

Zaft

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One very nice thing on Android even non rooted phones, is the ability to install .APK apps like OG YouTube, which is a free app that has ZERO ads in YouTube and allows downloads of videos / music. And my fav thing is the feature to have it playing in the background, with the screen off, or while surfing a full page website, you can have YouTube playing still.

Does the iPhone have something like that for stock non JB iOS ?
It did with an App called Protube. Google asked Apple to take it down because it made their RED subscription useless.

It was not free but around $2.99, but it was worth it.
 

Tig Bitties

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It did with an App called Protube. Google asked Apple to take it down because it made their RED subscription useless.

It was not free but around $2.99, but it was worth it.

I bought ProTube when I had the iPhone 6 Plus. I loved it. The background playing was my favorite part. Sad to hear it's gone now.

I haven't been on an iPhone for awhile, can you even do something like install .apk's on iOS ?
 

Zaft

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I bought ProTube when I had the iPhone 6 Plus. I loved it. The background playing was my favorite part. Sad to hear it's gone now.

I haven't been on an iPhone for awhile, can you even do something like install .apk's on iOS ?
There was a thread open in the iPhone section about an enterprise app that had those features. Too risky security wise for me to try, I just dont trust the developer.

EDIT: here is the link https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...ium-features-of-youtube-app-for-free.2091817/
 
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convergent

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It's mine, and while Smart Lock would be nice in the car occasionally (quicker to change a podcast episode while waiting for traffic lights to change), it's not such a dealbreaker that I'd like to make Exchange (which I need pretty much daily) less convenient to use. I also don't want to have to manually duplicate my work contacts to Google, I'd rather get up-to-date versions from the company server instead.

I have the same situation. I use my phone for work all day and am not going to try and use Outlook through a browser. I was using the built in Note 8 Email client for both Google and Exchange initially, and the security profile blocked Smart Lock.

I wanted to be able to control notifications better... so that I didn't get work notifications mixed with personal ones for email. So I installed Outlook to use for Exchange, and removed Exchange from the built in email client (leaving it just for Gmail). That resulted in the security profile not being there anymore and now I can use Smart Lock. So you might want to try that. I'm not sure if its that Outlook isn't passing the security profile from Exchange; or if its that removing Exchange from one of them caused it to go away, even though Exchange is still tied to Outlook. Either way, Smart Lock is working now.
 

Radon87000

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Roadstar

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I have the same situation. I use my phone for work all day and am not going to try and use Outlook through a browser. I was using the built in Note 8 Email client for both Google and Exchange initially, and the security profile blocked Smart Lock.

I wanted to be able to control notifications better... so that I didn't get work notifications mixed with personal ones for email. So I installed Outlook to use for Exchange, and removed Exchange from the built in email client (leaving it just for Gmail). That resulted in the security profile not being there anymore and now I can use Smart Lock. So you might want to try that. I'm not sure if its that Outlook isn't passing the security profile from Exchange; or if its that removing Exchange from one of them caused it to go away, even though Exchange is still tied to Outlook. Either way, Smart Lock is working now.
What he said. Use an Exchange app like Nine that allows the company's mobile device policy to be applied to the app rather than the device. Easily worth the $15 to regain the freedom.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ninefolders.hd3
Thanks for the tips. I just didn't end up using either of the suggested apps but Samsung's Secure Folder built on top of their Knox protection. Smart Lock is once again available for me and I could also select to export contacts and calendar outside Secure Folder, so I can still see both my private and work calendar entries together in the widget. When they actually release Linux on Galaxy (https://www.androidcentral.com/linux-galaxy-allows-developers-code-right-their-samsung-phone), my S8+ will be quite a workhorse.
 
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Radon87000

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So you can install protube still on a new iPhone X that's of course not jailbroke ?
Yup. It worked flawlessly on my iPhone 7 Plus on 11.1. You need a Mac to install though. Download cydia incpsector and then download the ProTube IPA from hollr2099. Connect iPhone to Mac and open cydia inspector. Drag the IPA into the program to install.

The reason I don't use it much is that when browsing in chrome or safari, clicking on any video just defaults to Google's app. There is no way to force it to open using ProTube on iOS because of no default apps customisation so it's substantially less useful.
 
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KingslayerG5

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Read this comment from GSMArena...

https://m.gsmarena.com/newscomm-28620.php

100% agreed. iOS is the worst computer OS of any type that I have used. I simply do not understand the adulation iOS gets on this site (and many others). I use an iPhone 6s and a OnePlus 3T every single day. Based on my observation, iOS is way backward compared to Androids after Lollipop. I am simply unable to understand why:

1) iOS keyboard does not have numbers, special characters and alphabets in the same view, and why am I supposed to switch between views in order to enter my user ID and password. With my logon credentials, it takes way too many clicks to do something so basic.
2) Why does iOS require 20+ clicks to delete, say five contacts in the contacts app, when Android does it in 8?
3) Why is the scroll speed in Safari so slow compared to browsers (such as Chrome) in Android? I am a regular reader of the Washington Post website. That site has the top stories of the day at the bottom of the page. I am able to scroll to the bottom in less than half the time on the OnePlus, compared to the 6s. This is true even of iOS 11.1.2
4) Why does it require an app to display emergency contacts right on the lock-screen as a scrolling ticker in iOS? Why does iOS require navigating to Emergency / Medical menu to make it visible to someone who may find my phone in an emergency?
5) Why do I need to navigate through the menu to Wi-Fi settings to switch between the 5GHz and 2.4 GHz channels at my home, when Android enables it through a long-press of the Wi-Fi icon?
6) Why do I need to use iTunes to transfer photos and music to my phone, something I do twice a week without any additional software on my Android phone?
7) Why does my iPhone keep disconnecting the Wi-Fi hotspot after around 20 minutes, even when my laptop is actively using the connection? Never happens on my "cheap Chinese" OnePlus. The only workaround I have found is to put the iPhone on the charger and turn off Bluetooth manually.
8) Why does the iPhone not have an easy way to regain lost performance as crud accumulates with usage. I have had to factory reset the device because the phone became slow with only 17 GB of 64 GB in use. This has never happened on the OnePlus (and Androids are the ones derided as "lagdroids"?), but I know that I can use App Cache Clear + CCleaner + Boot into recovery + Wipe system cache to do this without a factory reset.
9) Why does iOS not have a "Restart" button? I can tell you that "Oh, it never needs to be restarted" is not true. That 'explanation' may fly with those who don't use an iPhone everyday.

I wish I had known this before buying the iPhone. Would never have bought it. There was no hint - not on the internet, and not from my friends who had been using it - that iOS is so unfriendly. As things stand for me:
- If making a choice between a OnePlus device and an iPhone X for $1000, I would happily choose the OnePlus (or another *Android* phone, for that matter)
- If an iPhone X is USD 1000, then paying even USD 1500 to get an Android phone makes sense to me

All iOS has is quick updates. Quite how this make users' life easy, I have never been able to figure out.
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Agree with everything said especially reason #7. Just for me to copy and paste that comment is a hassle as it's sensitive at selecting the entire page when I prefer to select only a certain part I want to copy.

I have posted screenshots of my SwiftKey for Android on here. It's unbelievable how the default iOS keyboard or the SwiftKey for it still doesn't have numbers on top. iOS is not as user-friendly as some people think.

Notice I never say I like Android and iOS. I say I like Android and iPhone. Because my feelings for iPhone's excellent hardware and iOS are on two different spectrums. It's love & hate with Apple and most of the hate is where iOS and iTunes are at.

I would have an iPhone X right now if iOS wasn't so inferior with tethering, notifications, and toggles compared to Android. It would just be disruptive to my workflow. Android with microSD slot, SD adapter, and MacBook with SD slot or hub surprisingly works well together. Faster transfers speeds than iTunes.

Is Android perfect? Of course not. Sometimes I think it's Google spyware and a wake lock OS where it becomes Whac-A-Mole every time I disable a services. Privacy and malware concerns. But for my everyday needs, it beats iOS by a country mile.
 

widgeteer

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Everyone is different. Of all those listed I would say only the keyboard bothers me.

Most people are fine with IOS and are not really techies.

He lost me with this:

Why is the scroll speed in Safari so slow compared to browsers (such as Chrome) in Android?

Chrome is a dumpster fire, especially compared to Safari on iOS. The two aren't even in the same ballpark.
 

Roadstar

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He lost me with this:

Why is the scroll speed in Safari so slow compared to browsers (such as Chrome) in Android?

Chrome is a dumpster fire, especially compared to Safari on iOS. The two aren't even in the same ballpark.
Yep, Chrome is such a lagfest on Android, that even the bookmark sync isn't enticing me to use it. I'm currently using the Samsung Browser and wondering when exactly did it become this good.
 

iFoure

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One thing that keeps me from buying an iPhone: My city has a electronic travel card that you can use on buses, trains, trams etc. You can buy (transfer) money or monthly travel time on the card. The card uses NFC. Here's the "No iPhone for me part": With an Android phone, I can use an app called "My travel card" to read the card w/ NFC and see just how much money or time I have left on my card before I head to the city. I can't do that with an iPhone. There's been countless of times when I'm with my elderly parents and specially my mom asks: "can you check my travel card with your phone, I wanna know the balance?" It's a small feature but something that I cannot give up so as long as Apple keeps their NFC locked, they lose me as a customer.
 

widgeteer

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Yep, Chrome is such a lagfest on Android, that even the bookmark sync isn't enticing me to use it. I'm currently using the Samsung Browser and wondering when exactly did it become this good.

Dude! Right!?? Same here. Samsung Browser is just straight up magic. Just about no one talks about it.
 
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