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HiDEF

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Yes. Gestures to return to the home screen, the gesture for the control panel, gestures for spotlight, gestures to quickly go/navigate between opened apps, etc.



Touch ID is one. Then iOS software is what makes the camera become the best camera. etc.


Gestures are the same across the board--you tap on the home button to return to home. But perhaps android being slightly better cause of launchers like Nova that give you ability to add extra on-screen gestures.

IOS is the only one to offer a spotlight search unless you download a third party app.

I prefer multitasking and switching between apps on pure Android. Not that ios is bad, but I just prefer android.
 

azhurvadal

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Sep 21, 2014
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Almost everybody says that it looks bad, is choppy and basically useless and a few steps below stock Android. Samsung phones are the slowest flagships you can get.

BTW, iOS has many more useful features and gestures than touchwiz.


Almost everybody you know, which is not equal to almost everybody who bought samsung phones.

Open your mind and try to think globally. Millions bought iphones from the 1st gen till now & millions bought Samsung as well. If the majority hates touchwiz, they will buy other phones. The fact that S5 sales are still millions indicated that most of samsung buyers like touchwiz, or at least do not hate it.

Btw, please do enlighten me which features and gestures iOS has which touchwiz (or android in general) doesn't.
 

pedromcm.pm

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Mar 23, 2014
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Gestures are the same across the board--you tap on the home button to return to home. But perhaps android being slightly better cause of launchers like Nova that give you ability to add extra on-screen gestures.

IOS is the only one to offer a spotlight search unless you download a third party app.

I prefer multitasking and switching between apps on pure Android. Not that ios is bad, but I just prefer android.

And that's fair. I use Android myself. My only problem is with the supposed high end devices and skins. They charge the same as Apple for the iPhone . For me, that's insane.
 

Oohara

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Yes. Gestures to return to the home screen, the gesture for the control panel, gestures for spotlight, gestures to quickly go/navigate between opened apps, etc.

Touch ID is one. Then iOS software is what makes the camera become the best camera. etc.

When it comes to gestures, any Android skin or version is quite objectively more versatile than iOS. Using Nova Prime (or several other apps/launchers) you can have a whole range of home screen or even system wide gestures that you connect with functionality to your heart's content.

With Nova for instance, I can swipe down anywhere on my home screen to pull down the notifications shade. Or swipe up from any app icon to launch a secondary function. Or do a two finger swipe down to turn the screen off. And much more. These things have had a significant effect on my workflow feeling smoother on Android.

If you prefer double-press on the home button or long-press/hitting the multitasking button to bring up the app switcher, that is of course subjective. For me personally I found during over 2 years with the 4S that the double tap on the home button often failed and gave unwanted results, i.e. returning to the home screen or bringing up Siri instead.

Control Center is one point where iOS definitely has the advantage though. That is one thing I'd love it if Android copied. (Although it would be better if you could choose for yourself which functions were available in it.)
 

pedromcm.pm

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Please elaborate.

Are you saying Samsung, HTC, LG, etc, shouldn't be charging the same as Apple?

No. Their devices are slower, take worse pictures, have an worse ecosystem that they didn't spend a penny developing, OS updates and support end quickly, etc.

Apple not only makes the device, but also the best tools for devs, the OS, services, etc. Then you have things as designing the 2 best SoC on the market right now (a7 and a8). You might argue that Samsung also designs the exynos, but not only are they disappointing and useless, they are just basic ARM blueprints.

So there's that.nPhones like the Nexus, Moto devices and so on make all the sense to me. The others? No way in hell. But OEMs don't even sell high end devices, just Samsung. That's the problem I have.

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When it comes to gestures, any Android skin or version is quite objectively more versatile than iOS. Using Nova Prime (or several other apps/launchers) you can have a whole range of home screen or even system wide gestures that you connect with functionality to your heart's content.

With Nova for instance, I can swipe down anywhere on my home screen to pull down the notifications shade. Or swipe up from any app icon to launch a secondary function. Or do a two finger swipe down to turn the screen off. And much more. These things have had a significant effect on my workflow feeling smoother on Android.

If you prefer double-press on the home button or long-press/hitting the multitasking button to bring up the app switcher, that is of course subjective. For me personally I found during over 2 years with the 4S that the double tap on the home button often failed and gave unwanted results, i.e. returning to the home screen or bringing up Siri instead.

Control Center is one point where iOS definitely has the advantage though. That is one thing I'd love it if Android copied. (Although it would be better if you could choose for yourself which functions were available in it.)

I bought Nova prime, so I know what you are talking about. Despite that, I still use Google Now Launcher.
 

HiDEF

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No. Their devices are slower, take worse pictures, have an worse ecosystem that they didn't spend a penny developing, OS updates and support end quickly, etc.



Apple not only makes the device, but also the best tools for devs, the OS, services, etc. Then you have things as designing the 2 best SoC on the market right now (a7 and a8). You might argue that Samsung also designs the exynos, but not only are they disappointing and useless, they are just basic ARM blueprints.



So there's that.nPhones like the Nexus, Moto devices and so on make all the sense to me. The others? No way in hell. But OEMs don't even sell high end devices, just Samsung. That's the problem I have.

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I bought Nova prime, so I know what you are talking about. Despite that, I still use Google Now Launcher.


To HTC defense, with the m8 they did a good job with their Sense skin. But the rest need work.
 

Shanghaichica

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Gestures are the same across the board--you tap on the home button to return to home. But perhaps android being slightly better cause of launchers like Nova that give you ability to add extra on-screen gestures.

IOS is the only one to offer a spotlight search unless you download a third party app.

I prefer multitasking and switching between apps on pure Android. Not that ios is bad, but I just prefer android.

What about s - finder. It has similar features to the spotlight search. There is also the Google search bar.
 

bkends35

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Feb 24, 2013
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It's not slow on my N3, although I don't particularly like it as an app.

It's not on my devices :rolleyes:

Don't agree. It seems fast considering all that it searches. Can even search handwritten notes, which is quite handy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBCOO3y188Q

It's terribly slow in the way you access it and when you start typing it takes a few seconds for anything to come up. Compared to spotlight it's very slow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QD_OqsEGOY8

Notice how things come up near instant in spotlight?
 

Markyboy81

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBCOO3y188Q

It's terribly slow in the way you access it and when you start typing it takes a few seconds for anything to come up. Compared to spotlight it's very slow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QD_OqsEGOY8

Notice how things come up near instant in spotlight?
That video shows that it's quick IMO. He mistypes at first - types 'conc' which brings up no results. When he types 'cont' it then immediately brings up contacts and all the other info. Doesn't seem slow at all.
 

spinedoc77

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBCOO3y188Q

It's terribly slow in the way you access it and when you start typing it takes a few seconds for anything to come up. Compared to spotlight it's very slow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QD_OqsEGOY8

Notice how things come up near instant in spotlight?

Seems fairly quick to me, I just tried it. It's NOT instant though, spotlight looks nicer there, although that half a millisecond delay wouldn't bother me. S finder isn't an app I use at all, I think that's probably the 4th or 5th time I've ever even accessed it. I just think that "terribly slow" is the kind of exaggeration which makes these debates meaningless.

I find Google Now to be much nicer if I just want general information or searches. Google now is VERY fast, I'd say easily as instant as spotlight, it's also cooler IMO. Watching that video of a spotlight search for Dr. Dre was ok, but on my device I just say "OK Google" then with no delay say Dr. Dre, Google instantly searches for him and my phone actually starts VOICING facts about Dr. Dre, how cool is that. I used to dis Google now, and I thought apple did a much better job with siri. But Google now has grown up so much it's incredible now. I'm also curious about Cortana as I've heard a lot about it.
 

Dmaynard83

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Jul 16, 2012
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Well, not everyone agrees with that. Some people say it's choppy, other says otherwise.
So I guess it even



That's very subjective. I personally don't like it, You obviously hate it, but there are others who love touchwiz looks.




Of course it's not simple, if you compare it to ios.
Ios only consist of icons and folders on the home screen, while in touchwiz (and android ) you use icons, folders, widgets, custom gestures, live wallpapers, etc.

if you like simple things, than ios is perfect for you.
Other people want and need more features. If you don't need them it doesn't mean it's bad

Thanks for your input.

I have no problem with the UI of stock google/AOSP. But I'm sorry but samsung need to work on the aesthetic design and making it easier to use. I played around with every feature on my note 2, and I can say maybe used a couple features. I spent days and days customizing widgets and launchers, flashing different ROMs, just trying to get it how i wanted it and in the end I was never really happy with how it looked (some ROM's wiped touchwiz completely, but you would lose some actually decent apps like the TW camera app).

Multi-window
At first I thought the multi-window was a very cool feature, but I honestly never used it as much as I thought I would. I eventually gave the note 2 to my wife and she enjoyed it mainly for the battery life and screen size; but she never once used the multi-window feature even after I numerously told her how to use it.
 

jamesrick80

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Thanks for your input.

I have no problem with the UI of stock google/AOSP. But I'm sorry but samsung need to work on the aesthetic design and making it easier to use. I played around with every feature on my note 2, and I can say maybe used a couple features. I spent days and days customizing widgets and launchers, flashing different ROMs, just trying to get it how i wanted it and in the end I was never really happy with how it looked (some ROM's wiped touchwiz completely, but you would lose some actually decent apps like the TW camera app).

Multi-window
At first I thought the multi-window was a very cool feature, but I honestly never used it as much as I thought I would. I eventually gave the note 2 to my wife and she enjoyed it mainly for the battery life and screen size; but she never once used the multi-window feature even after I numerously told her how to use it.

Multi window is implemented better on both the note 3 and 4.....and is very useful.
 

spinedoc77

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Jun 11, 2009
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Multi window is implemented better on both the note 3 and 4.....and is very useful.

Multi window is awesome, I use it every day. It's kind of odd that I'm seeing many complaints about old hardware and software, touch wiz, android, etc. etc. have all changed since the note 2. Things like multi windows have also been further improved for the Note 4.

It's touches like these that make me feel like I'm productive on a big screen phablet, instead of just scaling everything up.
 

azhurvadal

macrumors newbie
Sep 21, 2014
19
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Thanks for your input.

I have no problem with the UI of stock google/AOSP. But I'm sorry but samsung need to work on the aesthetic design and making it easier to use. I played around with every feature on my note 2, and I can say maybe used a couple features. I spent days and days customizing widgets and launchers, flashing different ROMs, just trying to get it how i wanted it and in the end I was never really happy with how it looked (some ROM's wiped touchwiz completely, but you would lose some actually decent apps like the TW camera app).

Multi-window
At first I thought the multi-window was a very cool feature, but I honestly never used it as much as I thought I would. I eventually gave the note 2 to my wife and she enjoyed it mainly for the battery life and screen size; but she never once used the multi-window feature even after I numerously told her how to use it.

I bought note 2 mainly for multi window, but I rarely used it because 2 reasons :
1. I often forgot it exists
2. It was not intuitive. Long press back button to show the toggle, press the toggle, then drag the app. The toggle button was also distracting

But after a while I use it more often and the interface is continuously improved. Resizeable, minimize window, 4 windows (for tablet). Now I only need to swipe from the edge to toggle the app selection. Multi windows in present condition is very very useful.

for example, sometimes when I was browsing I found Images which contains some useful data which I need to convert to notes. I simply swipe from the right edge, drag evernote to 2nd window, then type the data . When I need to calculate anything, I use the calculator in 3rd window. If I need to compare the image to other images, I simply open Gallery or other browser in 4th window.

Without multi windows, it will take more times & efforts. Browse in Chrome, found the image, switch to evernote, type little bit of data, switch to chrome again to see image, then switch to evernote again, etc
Add S pen to that and the productivity value (at least for me) is very high.

Yes, Samsung phones sometimes lag (in my experience). But it is minor thing for me compared to the productivity value.
It's like condom. I'd rather have it but not need it, than need it but not have it
 

Chodite

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Sep 23, 2007
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Two things I LOVE about my wife's new iPhone 6:

  • 240fps slo-mo video. It's fantastic. Everything is better in slow motion!
  • Time Lapse photo mode

As much as I absolutely love my Galaxy Note 3 (and soon-to-be Note 4), I am very jealous of both features.

I actually really like the design of the iPhone 6 too. Feels great in the hand.

With that being said, iOS does nothing for me.
 

jamesrick80

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Two things I LOVE about my wife's new iPhone 6:

  • 240fps slo-mo video. It's fantastic. Everything is better in slow motion!
  • Time Lapse photo mode

As much as I absolutely love my Galaxy Note 3 (and soon-to-be Note 4), I am very jealous of both features.

I actually really like the design of the iPhone 6 too. Feels great in the hand.

With that being said, iOS does nothing for me.

I think multiwindow and actual multitasking is more useful. We probably can do slow motion with a application so no worries there. That's not on the top of my priority list. I'm glad that the mobile introduction of virtual reality gaming and headsets will be on the Note 4. Furthermore, I feel that selfies are so popular now and that Samsung actually focused on the right thing. Plus, a 16 mp rear camera with optical image stabilization and 4K video recording is awesome. Those are definitely not on the Iphone 6 Plus.
 

Chodite

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Sep 23, 2007
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Baltimore, MD
I think multiwindow and actual multitasking is more useful. We probably can do slow motion with a application so no worries there. That's not on the top of my priority list. I'm glad that the mobile introduction of virtual reality gaming and headsets will be on the Note 4. Furthermore, I feel that selfies are so popular now and that Samsung actually focused on the right thing. Plus, a 16 mp rear camera with optical image stabilization and 4K video recording is awesome. Those are definitely not on the Iphone 6 Plus.

Please find me an app on Google Play that shoots 240fps slow motion and an app on Google Play that does shoots time-lapse video.

Anyway, I actually sold the wife's iPhone 6 (64GB) for $1,100 on eBay last night.. which is paying for my Note 4 and will help pay for another iPhone 6 for her when they're back in stock.
 

jamesrick80

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Please find me an app on Google Play that shoots 240fps slow motion and an app on Google Play that does shoots time-lapse video.

Anyway, I actually sold the wife's iPhone 6 (64GB) for $1,100 on eBay last night.. which is paying for my Note 4 and will help pay for another iPhone 6 for her when they're back in stock.

The average phone user doesn't care about slow motion video...please find me the other things that iphone can do that is unique...i can name a full list on a samsung device........most of my video recording is simple just like the average user....bet you can't have fun with virtual reality gaming on ya device....now thats a no no on a 1080p screen with a low refresh rate
 

Chodite

macrumors 6502a
Sep 23, 2007
586
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Baltimore, MD
The average phone user doesn't care about slow motion video...please find me the other things that iphone can do that is unique...i can name a full list on a samsung device........most of my video recording is simple just like the average user....bet you can't have fun with virtual reality gaming on ya device....now thats a no no on a 1080p screen with a low refresh rate

I don't care what the average phone user does or doesn't care about. I care about it.

P.S: most users don't care about virtual reality gaming.
 

Oohara

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I don't care what the average phone user does or doesn't care about. I care about it.

P.S: most users don't care about virtual reality gaming.

Aye, virtual reality...talk about niche. Whereas slow mo I've already used a ton on my Note 2 and with very good results. I've always wished for really good quality slow mo though so for me at least that's a very good selling point for the iPhone. And in the reviews it's one of the things being talked about the most, really blowing people away.
 
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