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I’ve noticed even on the 26.1 beta when you take the phone out of your pocket outside it takes forever for auto brightness to get to an acceptable brightness level - Same for True Tone - very slow response.

If memory serves, this issue afflicts all new iPhones for a while until they fix it in the firmware.

I have another G9N 17 Pro now which is pretty good - Uniform, with a slight blue tint off axis. Only issue is it’s warmer than my 15 Pro Max and has the associated slightly less clear text and definition you get with that.
Woah look it's someone with the famed G9N saying their screen has off axis tint and other issues...
 
Exchange on what grounds?
Faulty display. If the display changes hue at the bottom of the display when performing minor tilting, and other displays don’t, that’s a fault. I didn’t buy a green display. Exchanging would have resulted me waiting until the end of October which in my opinion, is unacceptable.
 
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Great that your screen looks good! 😁

For many of us, for whatever reason, it is serious. Let’s try to share our views as opinions, and not present them as the norm.

For you it’s not that serious, and that’s totally fine! 👍
How is it serious? What sort of state secrets are you processing that require desktop class screen color matching? 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999% (is that enough 9's for you) don't bother to digress into this type of analysis over a phone screen. Not to mention they cannot tell the difference. I can't believe I wasted my time even replying to this.
 
How is it serious? What sort of state secrets are you processing that require desktop class screen color matching? 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999% (is that enough 9's for you) don't bother to digress into this type of analysis over a phone screen. Not to mention they cannot tell the difference. I can't believe I wasted my time even replying to this.
Are you paying out of pocket for that person’s phone?
 
Faulty display. If the display changes hue at the bottom of the display when performing minor tilting, and other displays don’t, that’s a fault. I didn’t buy a green display. Exchanging would have resulted me waiting until the end of October which in my opinion, is unacceptable.
So what are you going to do when the express replacement also has a green tint when you tilt it?
 
I am not sure. In some cases its pretty bad in my opinion too. In some cases its beyond tech OCD.

Maybe most people accept whatever apple gives them with trust.

Maybe most people don't care? What you don't know won't hurt you as much since you don't know what you're missing?

Maybe Apple has a huge propaganda machine working over time - I doubt it.

Maybe the industry has accepted some of the trade offs for OLED? Considering that some panels are objectively better and not just preference, I'm inclined to believe most people don't know what they are missing between a uniform screen, and something that's less consistent with color and viewing angles?

But we have reports about demo units getting scratched
 
So what are you going to do when the express replacement also has a green tint when you tilt it?
Exactly my thoughts too. I’ll have to assess based on the severity. I could replace it 10 times and end up in the same situation. As long as it’s somewhat better, I’ll most likely keep it. At the moment, even when I’m typing on the display the colour shifts (albeit slightly and not as much compared to tilting). With that said, it would still be disappointing compared to my 12PM display.
 
Express replacement sounds like Applecare

I would not get in an apple care loop this early on you’ll be stuck with a worse one.

IMO
Understandable and I agree, but otherwise I’d be waiting a month for a replacement. What if the next one is worse, do I wait another month? Unfortunately a physical visit to an Apple Store isn’t possible. At least with Express Replacement I can use my current phone and receive a replacement at a quicker pace.
 
I went to the Apple store to try and exchange mine, and they had no stock. I showed the tint problem to the employee, and he agreed it's noticeable. He said I could try and exchange it with the apple store online. I'll see what that is about. The other option is to find one in stock and buy it. Then I'd have to refund/exchange at the store. What a hassle.

Apple get the biggest pass in the industry on **** like this. If tint doesn't bother you, no problem keep your device. I'm done giving any company a pass on sub par quality. It's a quality issue, and it's up to you on your tolerance for it. If my replacement phone screen is just as bad, I'll return the phone and keep my 16PM. Both GH3's and one clearly better than the other.
 
Went to the Apple Store and exchanged my greenish G9P 17 Pro Max twice (first one for which I exchanged it had terrible green shift, didn’t have it long enough to see which panel make it was); very luckily, the second exchange unit is blessed with a G9N 👌 Same type I had on my 16 Pro Max and I absolutely love it… can only describe as crisp, natural, and neutral, with healthy contrast.

After the initial exchange I was beginning to regret my decision but it ended on a positive note and I’m happy ❤️
 
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Has anyone seen or received a base 17 using a Samsung g9n? Despite that supplier chart posted earlier in the thread suggesting panel share of 25% Samsung / 15% LG / 60% BOE (china only) for the 17, I have hardly seen any reports of the Samsung being used.
G9Q on my 17. My base 16 was also a G9Q.
 
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Went to the Apple Store and exchanged my greenish G9P 17 Pro Max twice (first one for which I exchanged it had terrible green shift, didn’t have it long enough to see which panel make it was); very luckily, the second exchange unit is blessed with a G9N 👌 Same type I had on my 16 Pro Max and I absolutely love it… can only describe as crisp, natural, and neutral, with healthy contrast.

After the initial exchange I was beginning to regret my decision but it ended on a positive note and I’m happy ❤️
How’s uniformity? Real test will be at night with night shift and True Tone enabled.
 
Why this screen lottery still have not made it to the usual alarmist news sites?
Honestly, when you look at the number of screens being labeled as “bad” based on pseudo-scientific photos, there’s really not much newsworthy here.

Taking photos of a phone screen is actually one of the worst ways to assess display quality.

The amount of claims and so-called “evidence” in this thread based on photos is laughable. If you really want to measure this properly, you’d need professional color calibration and display-measuring equipment.
 
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Honestly, when you look at the number of screens being labeled as “bad” based on pseudo-scientific photos, there’s really not much newsworthy here.

Taking photos of a phone screen is actually one of the worst ways to assess display quality.

The amount of claims and so-called “evidence” in this thread based on photos is laughable. If you really want to measure this properly, you’d need professional color calibration and display-measuring equipment.
Do you need a laboratory and run science experiments when the defect, green off-axis tint in this case, is obvious to the naked eye? Taking photos of the display may be tricky, and may not represent exactly what the naked eye sees, but it's enough to demonstrate that there's an issue with green shift that's blatantly noticeable in-person.
 
Do you need a laboratory and run science experiments when the defect, green off-axis tint in this case, is obvious to the naked eye? Taking photos of the display may be tricky, and may not represent exactly what the naked eye sees, but it's enough to demonstrate that there's an issue with green shift that's blatantly noticeable in-person.
It’s not a defect, it’s a characteristic.
 
1) I think an inconsistent screen tint at viewing angles is an objective defect when its not exhibited with every screen of the exact same screen model, and there are screens made by a different manufacturer that do not exhibit the characteristic. If viewing angle color distortion and fading was a trade off, and acknowledged or offset as a way to solve another issue or boost some other performance factor, then one could argue that its a feature. I have heard no discussion that screen distortion is utilized as a way to offset or boost to another performance factor. Call it a defect, for a characteristic of an inferior manufactured screen. Either way, its objectively not as good of a screen as those not exhibiting the characteristics.

2) You don't need scientific tests, when the issue is easily and objectively seen with the naked eye. For people to come into a huge thread and say "what's the big deal" and call everyone nerds or OCD is A. ignoring half of the reason the forum exists, and B. gaslighting inconsistencies with the screen quality as peoples imagination.

3) How would taking pictures of screens be the worst possible way to show the characteristics as long as you are showing them all taken with the same light, camera, next to each other etc. etc. Taking a picture of the Apple store display stand, where you can plainly see differences with all of the phones at the same brightness, on the exact same web page, taken at the same time, with the same camera, is plain as day showing screen distortions.


It may or may not bother every iPhone user. It certainly bothered me, which is why I currently have a 17 pro that doesn't have the issue at all. I haven't checked to see what screen it is, because I don't care, as it looks fin to me unlike my 17 pro max and Air which faded and greed out at the slightest angle.
 
I have another G9N 17 Pro now which is pretty good - Uniform, with a slight blue tint off axis. Only issue is it’s warmer than my 15 Pro Max and has the associated slightly less clear text and definition you get with that.
Finally, someone who acknowledges the inherent issues with Samsung panels. Warm equals less clear text. Too warm, and you start getting magenta/pink blotches.

If you’re happy with your panel, that’s what really matters. Same as my SO being happy with her Air’s GVC, even though it clearly has blue shift problems.

I’ve been trying to swap her Air for my G9N 15 Pro, but she won’t go for it. Her display is just so uniform, so neutrally white, and the text looks so crisp that I don’t think I’ll ever manage it.

Anyway, I appreciate your honesty, this thread was going off the rails with people who refuse to see the flaws in Samsung panels and only point out those in LG’s, almost like some kind of unsettling Samsung cult.
 
This thread is interesting. My Air has a GVC, my wife’s Air has a G9N.

They look really similar to me. The G9N seems to have a bit of a pink shift at an angle, where my GVC has a slight green shift at an angle. Low brightness and True Tone makes it more pronounced on both devices.

Brightness, consistency, vibrancy is similar. Gun to my head I’d say her display is a bit better but it’s really really close. Randomly, she had a 17 Pro at first (she exchanged for the Air after holding mine) with a G9N that was really excellent with zero color shift at any angle, and it seemed a bit brighter to me as well.
 
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iPhone Air 1TB launch day phone, mine has G9Q. Had no idea there were different screen qualities until reading here. Don’t believe I’d exchange mine even if there is a tint, just very happy with it so far. Upgraded from iPhone 11 128GB that I used for a couple years

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This thread is interesting. My Air has a GVC, my wife’s Air has a G9N.

They look really similar to me. The G9N seems to have a bit of a pink shift at an angle, where my GVC has a slight green shift at an angle. Low brightness and True Tone makes it more pronounced on both devices.

Brightness, consistency, vibrancy is similar. Gun to my head I’d say her display is a bit better but it’s really really close. Randomly, she had a 17 Pro at first (she exchanged for the Air after holding mine) with a G9N that was really excellent with zero color shift at any angle, and it seemed a bit brighter to me as well.
A G9N in an Air!?!?! That's a first!
 
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