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DeltaMac

macrumors G5
Jul 30, 2003
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I continue to be disappointed at each new release.
Apple still refuses to add a french press option to ANY iMac.
I don't know who to blame for what any right-thinking person must class as an injustice.
I think it is unfair to the coffee-drinking community.
mumble-mumble - who ya gonna call?
 
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Deacon-Blues

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Aug 15, 2012
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I would love to see Tim Cook leave as well. Apple has always been a company with liberal sensibilities but under Jobs Apple stayed out of politics. With Cook Apple has become an activist company. It's getting tiresome; he'd better serve the company if he just gave the politics a rest and concentrated on products.
 
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Macalway

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Aug 7, 2013
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Always good to start the day with a nasty remark. :D

Anyways, who's to say the replacement is better? Look at today's politics for an example.
 
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Dave245

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Sep 15, 2013
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I disagree Apple is doing great, are they perfect no of course not no company is, but just because they don't produce a product when you want it doesn't mean they are a bad company. Yes it has been a while since we saw iMac (and other Mac) updates but who knows what they are working on. The Apple Watch is great, the iPhone 7 Plus is the best smartphone on the market (in my opinion) the iPad Pro is a great tablet that can do a lot more than what the iPad use to be able to do. I think Apple is heading in the right direction, maybe not as fast as people would like but as long as they keep producing products i enjoy and love using i don't mind how long it takes them.
 

aristobrat

macrumors G5
Oct 14, 2005
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I guess I should add one "Waiting for" thread about waiting for Tim Cook to leave Apple as he is the only keeping the wheels from spinning and turning Apple into a phone focused company.
Can you really say "only" when he reports to a Board of Directors that can replace him at any time?

There are people above him that he's accountable too.
 

44267547

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Jul 12, 2016
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I see many long threads on "waiting for" such and such Apple computers to be announced. I guess I should add one "Waiting for" thread about waiting for Tim Cook to leave Apple as he is the only keeping the wheels from spinning and turning Apple into a phone focused company.

Considering Apple's net revenue is 70% from the iPhone market and their stock/financially is flourishing.
 

ZapNZs

macrumors 68020
Jan 23, 2017
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I doubt anyone who owns Apple stock feels this way, unless they hate money.

Apple IS a phone company that makes good computers. If Apple was not a phone company, it would be the stupidest financial decision in ages. Priority goes to where profit is. That doesn't always work out well for smaller User bases, but those smaller User bases aren't the primary funders of the company (even if at one point they accounted for virtually all of the company's revenue.)

I'm not as confident of the Mac's future as I once was, and wished Apple was more aggressive with their Mac product releases, but the truth is that my personal opinion really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of income. Mr. Cook is making big money for many people, and ensuring hundreds of thousands of people have jobs.
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Considering Apple's net revenue is 70% from the iPhone market and their stock/financially is flourishing.

Further, think about how much less effort is required to develop that highly profitable product. Two very similar hardware devices with only several variations among individual specimens bring in several times the income of 7+ hardware products with considerable variation among each (with each individual variation requiring their own R&D/testing, equating to the equivalence of several hundred hardware products that, when combined, still only bring in about 1/5th the product of the iPhone.)

Someone would be out of their mind if they gave anything the same level of priority as the iPhone, and shareholders would (rightfully so) be furious if anything was allowed to stand in conflict with iPhone. I've not seen the most recent trends, but most forecasting of the PC market versus the smartphone market shows the smartphone's future as much more certain than the PC.
 
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jerryk

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Nov 3, 2011
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I doubt anyone who owns Apple stock feels this way, unless they hate money.

Well said. I own a lot of Apple stock, been buying since the 90s. I like the ROI I am seeing and think Cook is doing a good job.

I remember in the 90s when Apple had to lease space at 1 Infinite Loop to a bookstore to keep afloat, and beg Microsoft for money and to continue making Office for the Mac.
 

imanidiot

macrumors 6502a
May 1, 2011
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Denver, CO
Tim Cook has one job and one job only: to please the shareholders. Apple is making money in unimaginable amounts, the stock is at a record high, therefore the shareholders are happy and Tim Cook is doing his job. People like me grouse and complain about the absence of new Macs, but the fact of the matter is that what people like me think or want matters not at all. What matters is whether the shareholders are pleased, and they don't care whether Apple makes computers at all or anything but the iPhone, which is of course the cash cow. The shareholders do not care WHAT Apple makes as long as the stock remains high and the cash flows into the coffers. It's that simple. I don't like it, but it is not about what I like. Apple is a company and it's about money. Period. Those whose opinion alone matters don't care whether Apple makes computers or toilet paper or manure, as long as the financial imperatives are addressed and met in a desireable way. Given the way things are going, Tim Cook is not going anywhere unless Tim Cook wants to, and all this nonsense about how he's ruining Apple is just that, nonsense. Apple is a company. They exist to make money. No other reason. People like me have to learn to accept that, and stop all the But Apple Is Special crap. They are just another company. And, yes, I'm talking to myself as much as to anyone else.
 
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navaira

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May 28, 2015
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Yes it has been a while since we saw iMac (and other Mac) updates but who knows what they are working on.
The pipeline. The pipeline knows everything but it ain't tellin'.

I applaud the activism, efforts to be green, promote diversity and focus on health. Well done. I approve 100%. I don't think that this has anything to do with what Apple actually release – can't see Tim Cook going "soz Jony, can't look at your new purdy thinner iMac designs that have been ready to go for last 6 months, gotta go raise awareness now". What I do NOT like is reading that iOS and macOS teams have been joined and iOS has priority. I find it hard to believe that Apple can't possibly have two separate teams who communicate well enough and have to merge them, then prioritise one side of the coin all the time. Tim Cook is making a brave bet that people will eschew the laptops/desktops for iPads. Maybe. But why make the bet? A company with so much cash and so many employees should be able to regularly update three products at once – no? (as in iPad, iPhone, Mac)

I don't want to be the armchair CEO. I just don't get it. Where most companies would attempt to diversify their product line – and I am not talking about offering 2359 models of iPhone – Apple seems to be dropping more and more products instead. AirPort and displays are dead. Mac Pro and Mini are practically dead. iPod – well, not Apple's fault really. But why neglect Macs that bring billions in revenue every quarter? I can see why they don't have a dedicated iPod team, but really, no time and/or manpower to update Mac Pro for over three years? I am not saying it is Cook's fault, same as I roll my eyes slightly when I read "it's all about politics" – Tim Cook isn't doing all this himself. What he does do, however, is prioritise; divide tasks among management; keep Eddy Cue in employment. Yes, Apple's shares are riding super high. Well done. Steve Ballmer is proud. But what if One Plus Fourteen or Galaxy S27 is a success at such scale that iPhone sales drop MySpace style? What if iPad is not the future of computing?

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message NOT sent from my new iMac
 

hajime

macrumors 604
Jul 23, 2007
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Tim Cook has one job and one job only: to please the shareholders. Apple is making money in unimaginable amounts, the stock is at a record high, therefore the shareholders are happy and Tim Cook is doing his job. People like me grouse and complain about the absence of new Macs, but the fact of the matter is that what people like me think or want matters not at all. What matters is whether the shareholders are pleased, and they don't care whether Apple makes computers at all or anything but the iPhone, which is of course the cash cow. The shareholders do not care WHAT Apple makes as long as the stock remains high and the cash flows into the coffers. It's that simple. I don't like it, but it is not about what I like. Apple is a company and it's about money. Period. Those whose opinion alone matters don't care whether Apple makes computers or toilet paper or manure, as long as the financial imperatives are addressed and met in a desireable way. Given the way things are going, Tim Cook is not going anywhere unless Tim Cook wants to, and all this nonsense about how he's ruining Apple is just that, nonsense. Apple is a company. They exist to make money. No other reason. People like me have to learn to accept that, and stop all the But Apple Is Special crap. They are just another company. And, yes, I'm talking to myself as much as to anyone else.

Unfortunately Apple has become a rotten apple.
 

Marshall73

macrumors 68030
Apr 20, 2015
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Generation 'next!' Just can't handle the fact that Apple doesn't release new shiny stuff every quarter. They also forget that Apple has never been fast at creating new stuff, it's here is new product x then years of tiny incremental changes. What has made this more obvious is the switch to annual updates instead of every 2 years. To truly compare Apple of today to Apple of old you have to take 2 years of OS updates and compare that to the updates of old. This is unlikely to change as long as Apple is selling millions of phones and making tonnes of money.

People crying about no new iMacs etc but when they arrive they will barely be faster than the current models so what's the great rush?
 

kazmac

macrumors G4
Mar 24, 2010
10,103
8,658
Any place but here or there....
I would hope the constructive criticisms lobbed at Apple last Fall and the thoughtfulness of their competitors insofar as innovative tech made some kind of dent in Apple exec land. I would love them to knock folks socks off in the Mac department and perhaps rethink the keyboard design of the MBPs etc.

I may not agree with many of Tim Cook's practices and other things Apple are doing/not doing now, but they constantly stand by this long in the tooth customer. I know my requests for assistance will be answered. I can only go forward with my particular experiences with their products and customer service. As long as I can continue to create with their products, I will do so.

I know what I'd love them to do Mac-wise and I can easily shut off the hype machine, so I move onward and not lament things I cannot change. I just cannot hold onto negativity and anger when things have been done right by me.
 

Solomani

macrumors 601
Sep 25, 2012
4,785
10,478
Slapfish, North Carolina
Tim Cook has one job and one job only: to please the shareholders. Apple is making money in unimaginable amounts, the stock is at a record high, therefore the shareholders are happy and Tim Cook is doing his job. People like me grouse and complain about the absence of new Macs, but the fact of the matter is that what people like me think or want matters not at all. What matters is whether the shareholders are pleased, and they don't care whether Apple makes computers at all or anything but the iPhone, which is of course the cash cow. The shareholders do not care WHAT Apple makes as long as the stock remains high and the cash flows into the coffers. It's that simple. I don't like it, but it is not about what I like. Apple is a company and it's about money. Period. Those whose opinion alone matters don't care whether Apple makes computers or toilet paper or manure, as long as the financial imperatives are addressed and met in a desireable way. Given the way things are going, Tim Cook is not going anywhere unless Tim Cook wants to, and all this nonsense about how he's ruining Apple is just that, nonsense. Apple is a company. They exist to make money. No other reason. People like me have to learn to accept that, and stop all the But Apple Is Special crap. They are just another company. And, yes, I'm talking to myself as much as to anyone else.

The sad fact is….. you don't have to be an Apple Consumer to be an AAP Stockholder. I'm one of the few?

I'm a veteran Apple ecosystem consumer, plus I own some handful of AAPL shares. So I'm of the belief that by focusing on "insanely great products", the company will remain a healthy investment for years to come. But guess what? The other thousands of shareholders don't give a rats poop about Macs, they probably have never touched one. They don't care about how to make the AppleTV better, because they have no plans to ever use one. They are your typical Windows-using Wall Street corporate business suits. And so understandably, their interests in Apple is purely for the ROI point of view.
 

pika2000

Suspended
Jun 22, 2007
5,587
4,903
IF I have to point at someone, it's because of the tech bloggers. These group of people make money by click baits and SEO, so they will continue pounding at Apple because it creates news for them. Imo this is separate than Wall Street, which although rotten, at least they're upfront about their priorities.

As for Tim Cook, imo he's fine. He's leading the company with his vision, and it still aligns with Apple's /job's. But you cannot just expect him to be a carbon copy of Jobs. At least unlike other companies who talked big, Apple put their values in practice (environment, etc).
 
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