Tim Cook discussion thread [merged]

[Michaelgtrusa]

Apple needs a Chief Innovation Officer - not a team that focusses on creating a new set of dongles for every barely revised product.

I agree and someone who's focus on his nation first.

 

[That70sGAdawg]

I think the "Auburn grad" spends too much time in politics instead of leading a tech company......

 

[AidenShaw]

I think the "Auburn grad" spends too much time in politics instead of leading a tech company......

I will wager that a poll would show that a majority of Apple's employees would be happy with the fact that Apple stands for something.

This is leadership:

According to Cook's memo, Apple will be making two separate $1 million donations to both the Southern Poverty Law Center and the Anti-Defamation League. The company will also match employee donations to these and other groups two-for-one until September 30. Cook also said that Apple would soon offer its users a way to contribute to the Southern Poverty Law Center through iTunes.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/charliewar...mployees-about?utm_term=.mqYabQMOm#.ynEjar0DK

 

[I7guy]

I will wager that a poll would show that a majority of Apple's employees would be happy with the fact that Apple stands for something.

This is leadership:

I think most employees are would have a positive outlook when the company they work for takes a stand for various social causes.

 

[titrau]

Today is a day of Tim Cook

Tim will introduce new iphone at ( Jobs ) biggest shadow and it also the perfect place to get
rid of the sucess of his predecessor, ( best friend )

Tim have a chance to today show everyone different product than the statistic on increasing sales
day assert itself

Today the moment apple eventually became apple Tim Cook in the theater name >>> steve jobs

Tim not gotta used a word = 1 more thing again
he must doing something special to show he also Apple Tim Cook



I try my best english ....

thank all -

 

[KGB7]

So much passive aggressiveness in your post.

 

[titrau]

Event today give me exited and show out what i want to say

 

[I7guy]

I thought 2013 was the most important year.

 

[oplix]

I'm not sure if he has his employees in some kind of trance. Tim Cook holds no specific special talents and if you research his performance as CEO you would be surprised to find out he isn't managing too well. Apple with Cook as CEO is going to be facing an onslaught in 2018 that Cook does not seem to be ready for. As evidenced by the prototype iPhone X being rushed to market, now 2 months behind due to engineering schedule. Certainly Cook could lead his political crusades on his own time and someone else should focus on running a company worth almost a trillion dollars.

 

[DeltaMac]

I expect that when (if) Apple starts losing money, and stockholders become disenchanted with Cook, he will be gone pretty quickly.
So far, none of that appears to be happening.

I guess that you will need to convince Apple's board that a few hundred billion dollars on hand is just not enough to sustain the company through the coming "downturn", if in fact that happens.

("rushed to market"? I appreciate that bit of whimsy! "Rushed to market" --- oh,yes, that sounds about right, in a satirical sort of way.)

Even if that happens, a two month delay is not likely to affect Apple's bottom line much, if at all, and I suspect that Apple's stockholders will continue to be just fine with Tim Cook.

Curious about how you would have access to Apple's "engineering schedule" to verify that they are actually 2 months behind. Maybe it's just these rumor sites that throw you off track. It's why they call them "rumors"

 

[0388631]

Curious about how you would have access to Apple's "engineering schedule" to verify

Take a gander at a few of the hardware sections. We have many official testers who are just so keen on sharing their thoughts on currently upcoming hardware they've played with first-hand.

 

[kazmac]

With the price hikes, once again I am souring on Tim's Apple. I appreciate them coming to bat for me when I needed it (or you know, the loss of a long time user and lots of cha-ching, let's be real), but I realize my iPhone and iPad purchases this year were not suitable for my needs and usage.

That Cook says Apple is not a company catering to the rich, and then the prices mysteriously rise on iDevices and Apple Care + the next day . The consumer should not be made to pay for shortage of parts, innovation, or your itch to get into Hollywood when you just blew 5 billion dollars on a fancy HQ.

I will be cross platform here going forward. Kind of looking forward to it actually.

 

[576316]

Well said. I own a lot of Apple stock, been buying since the 90s. I like the ROI I am seeing and think Cook is doing a good job.

I remember in the 90s when Apple had to lease space at 1 Infinite Loop to a bookstore to keep afloat, and beg Microsoft for money and to continue making Office for the Mac.

Does this make you really rich?

 

[Beachguy]

It's hard to find a single quote to reflect the wide-ranging nature of this article, but the author makes many excellent points about Apple. I found the title to be misleading, but that is hardly unusual with news stories these days. The crux of the article is that Apple seems to be rushing into dangerous waters, especially by becoming such a political company. Just a few years ago, near the end of Jobs life, I spent a considerable amount of money on Apple products. Since Cook took over, I have spent MUCH MUCH less- as in, only 1 iPhone, and 1 low-end iPad. The reason for that is that Apple has lost its vision, and Cook spends a considerable amount of time and money promoting positions I strongly disagree with. I'm not going to argue the validity of those positions, but, rather, to hopefully get some to think without political glasses on. If you like what his political views are, consider this- how would you feel if he came out wearing a MAGA cap, pressing to send DACA kids back to their country of origin, etc. In other words, divorce yourself from a political perspective, and assume the role of unbiased analyst.

I have long held that companies should remain outside the political arena. When you take a stand- a political stand- you risk alienating a large portion of your customer base. I do not believe that the stagnation we have seen in Apple products only happened for basic reasons such as slow Intel product cycles. I believe Cook's political efforts are taking his time, energy, and corporate money away from what the company is there to do, and moves into distractions and ventures into areas that Apple should not visit.

I have made a living for many years from IBM's products- hardly (outside their research arm) an exciting, cutting edge area. Even so, they are continually updated and you don't see their CEO running all over pressing his political agenda. The same applies to Dell and HP, to GM and Ford, etc. etc.

Apple has become soulless and visionless. There's not much time left. Meanwhile, I'm learning Linux. Apple has become boring.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-09/are-tim-cooks-days-ceo-numbered

 

[DaveOP]

I think you overestimate how much the average consumer cares. I would guess a VERY large majority of iPhone users could not name the Apple CEO. Of those that could, I bet most of them don't know his political views. These things are really only noted by enthusiasts that follow Apple closely. They are selling more now than when Steve was CEO, so your lack of purchasing is clearly not mainstream.

 

[Beachguy]

I would point out the article I posted is not from enthusiasts, but from outside the industry. What got me to notice this in the first place was a coworker who sent me the link (I'm on vacation this week) and she is an accounting department supervisor, not a tech sort like me.

 

[DaveOP]

I would point out the article I posted is not from enthusiasts, but from outside the industry. What got me to notice this in the first place was a coworker who sent me the link (I'm on vacation this week) and she is an accounting department supervisor, not a tech sort like me.

It's probably on a website she frequents. None of my extended family takes Tim Cook into account when buying an iPhone every few years. MANY of Apples customers are outside the US, and have little interest in his political views (I would bet). I think it's very overblown in tech circles, and something that gets shared when your favorite news site writes an article, but forgotten quickly after.

 

[0989383]

I think Tim Cook is doing great. He's no Steve Jobs, but he's not trying to be.

The company is performing amongst the best in the world, period.

The products are even better - the iPhone X is a masterpiece as are the latest Macs and iOS 11 is finally giving iPad users what they wanted for a long time. Sure, iPods are near dead but we all saw that coming with the rise of the iPhone and it didn't happen overnight. iTunes has moved on to a newer model as the competition has. And Apple's even having a go at recapturing some past fails with the HomePod etc. Whilst I'm probably never going to buy the Watch and thought Apple shouldn't have made.. it's in it's third generation with the sale and success to support it - regardless of what I think.

As for 'innovation', that can only happen at the pace of technological advancements and economic factors on the whole being ready to give the engineers something to work with when coming up with an entirely new type of device. We got the iPhone - amazing. iPad? Nice. Apple Watch? Handy. What more can we ask for in less than a decade of what I'd say is pretty decent.

 

[AidenShaw]

The products are even better - the iPhone X is a masterpiece as are the latest Macs.

Yes - everyone I know who has an Iphone X loves it.

 

[Macintoshrumors]

Tim is perfect for apple. its late 2017 and things turned out A-Okay. Have new iMacs, 10.5 iPad Pro, upgraded MacBook pros with the newest 7th Intel processors with rumors of upgraded 8th gen processors in 2019. We have a glass back iPhone 8 and (the money shot) iPhone X both with wireless charging. AirPods will also be able to charge wirelessly via the case. Apple Watch with lte is taking the world by storm. Also apples answer to Alexa named home pod hitting shelves in December. News of a reviivng Mac mini hit the interweebs today. things are looking goooood

 

[everythingapplerainbow]

that's showing Tim Cook's silly vision of Apple, is that the company just fired the man who made the Automator and other pro tools.

who is the guy that you mentioned? Chris Lattner? Scott Forstall?

 

[KhunJay]

I am angry that I have allowed myself to be cornered into a situation where I have only learned to use use apple computers and phones.

Guess I have to suck it up and just make my older apple products (that were great) last as long as possible.

Hopefully by then Tim Cook has found his mojo.

 

[hawkeye_a]

I am angry that I have allowed myself to be cornered into a situation where I have only learned to use use apple computers and phones.

Guess I have to suck it up and just make my older apple products (that were great) last as long as possible.

Hopefully by then Tim Cook has found his mojo.

I'm currently listening to music on my 2009 iPhone 3GS which has a great Music app, and a headphone port.

 

[Hanson Eigilson]

who is the guy that you mentioned? Chris Lattner? Scott Forstall?

he is called Sal Soghoian, when interviewed about the fireing he said:

Q. I hear you no longer work for Apple; is that true?

A. Correct. I joined Apple in January of 1997, almost twenty years ago, because of my profound belief that “the power of the computer should reside in the hands of the one using it.” That credo remains my truth to this day. Recently, I was informed that my position as Product Manager of Automation Technologies was eliminated for business reasons. Consequently, I am no longer employed by Apple Inc. But, I still believe my credo to be as true today as ever.

I think he was a interesting character, and personally i applaud him for his convictions even if they may not be ideal for everyone i think that the healthy way to handle IT is to put as much power in the hands of the users as possible. But that is probably not the direction Apple is going, more closed cloud services, more sandboxing everything and less control over your own data, media and hardware.
Or maybe it was a last ditch effort to secure enough resources for emoji development.

For me it seems like Apple for me like the gulf between what Apple say and what they do grows wider and wider ever since jobs, Tim Cook put's in a lot of time to seem like a nice person with the things he say's, and use some fraction of a fraction of a fraction of their marketing budget on good causes. He understands marketing, and he understands the power of a computer and maybe he just wants us on ipads to make sure we don't make too many mistakes with actual computers. Or maybe he needs that free goodwill to make actual business practices seem less unpalatable

 

[mazdamiata210]

All he sees is $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$