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Tim Cook discussion thread [merged]
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I can't bemoan too loudly my apple holdings, but according to yahoo the adjusted close is double that of 2011, but down in a year...but the whole market is a bit off.
Yeah well did he introduce them at every possible keynote ?Coz it really annoys me when Cook introduces them at every keynote and there is applause as if it's something out of this world
That's something Jobs wouldn't approve of
The world has spoken.Sales of iPad continue to tank. iPhone sales to continue their decline .Apple Watch Sales reportedly subpart.Yup Outstanding job Timmy
Nice deflection, however you didn't answer the question and forgot to add the most valuable and admired company in the world. Outstanding job Timmy. The world has spoken.
Where are you getting that from, the shares are currently trading 85% higher than they were 5 years ago.
Where are you getting that from, the shares are currently trading 85% higher than they were 5 years ago.
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You conveniently start your chart midway through 2011.
The shares reached $100.50 earlier in 2011 compared to $95 today.
I conveniently clicked the 5 years button to show the share price from 5 years ago.
I conveniently clicked the 5 years button to show the share price from 5 years ago.
Fair enough.
It just goes to show how much the shares have fallen from their all-time highs, as they went so much higher than their current price.
Edit: my mistake.
You are correct; Apple are up 86% on 2011. It was 2012 that they reached 100.1$, not 2012.
So yes, five year performance is excellent—up 86%. Four year, poor—down 5%.
All I'm saying is that I don't see the logic behind Apple "playing their entire hand at once". I think smartphones are quickly becoming like PCs in terms of innovation, where just about everything that can be done has already been done, and most people are happy with the tech in their current phone.
I think that when Apple finally comes out with waterproofing, OLED, etc, it's going to be a big deal FOR THEM and a lot of their customers are going to consider upgrading that year (whereas they likely wouldn't have).
It'll be interesting to see what Samsung, LG, etc pull out of their hats in the upcoming years to make folks want to upgrade.
So he introduces something that people actually seem excited about, and you complain? You're a tough crowd, man. lol
I haven't seen the financial pundits clamoring about Apple's performance in a good while. Used to be any ebb would set off a storm in the financial blogosphere. Seems like it's been crickets for awhile.
Yes, the quietness is odd, considering the poor share performance.
One could interpret it as ominous or nothing. I lean to the former.
This is quite true. But one of the reasons I ditched iPhone was the lack of water/dustproofing. Not even Sony's Sales Prevention Team could stop me from buying two Xperias, and S7 is going to be my next. I work in a very dusty environment and ruined my iPhone 4's back camera just by using it there. And having been spoilt by Android goodies I can't see myself returning to iPhone unless they slash the price by half and finally introduce on-screen widgets (which, when Apple adds them, will be Revolutionary(TM) of course).
Isn't the next earnings call coming up? I'm not expecting anything more or less than the last earning call, but it will be like Apple is on its last breath if records weren't broken.
What deflection?Factually sales have decreased.World's most admired company is because of Jobs products .Lets list out CEO accomplishments
Tim-Watch and Watch Bands,Emojis,
Jobs-iPad iPhone and iPod
Cook is doing a brilliant job filling Job's shoes
It will be another decline which you will attempt to downplay as usual
Ha, talk about how the world is ending and apple is on it's last legs. You will give it more importance than it deserves; totally ignoring the record breaking quarters that preceded it.
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Cook. 10 consecutive record breaking quarters. 1 down quarter. New products, new directions. Most admired company. Most valuable company. Most imitated company in terms of culture of innovation. Ipad pro, best screaming tablet on the market. Touchid, most imitated finger-print eco-system.
Seems you left a few accomplishments out of cooks' resume.
Samsung OLEDs always gain burn marks, it's kind of a tabu, bit they are there.
If it were Apple, it would be front page news. In fact, I bet that if iPhone adopts OLED, the next day after commercialization, there will be a burngate.
10 record breaking quarters are a thing of the past.Now it a downward spiral from hereon in according to Cook himself.And it will continue to go down until they listen to what their customers want.
10 records-Thank you Jobs for providing Cook with a organisation filled with cash and innovative products to maintain momentum
2 down quarters-I think we can agree that the next quarter is also a down quarter
Most admired company-Not for long if they keep this up.Alphabet is closing in
Most imitated-early years?Yes.Now?Nope Competition is coming out with sleeker and better products.The Macbook Air looks like a 1980 laptop compared to the bezel less XPS 13
iPad Pro-So easy to be the best on the market when you have no one to compete against as competitors aren't interested in a declining market
TouchID-Motorola did it first
So wrong on all counts. The iPhone 7 will be a block buster. Alphabet is no where as admired as Apple, rich yes, admired no. Competition has a long way to go, look at the sheer number of phones sold for your answer and the revenue of phones. Better is not bloat hardware. Don't kid yourself, android(Google) wants the tablet market but Apple owns it. Finally it's never about first with Apple it's about best. Haven't you been paying attention? And now Apple Pay integration in websites; innovation galore.
Don't forget the creation and growth of services under his tenure.
iCloud Storage (driven by iCloud Photo Library, IMO)
Apple Music
ApplePay
Apple service revenue outstrips Macs, iPads; seen as key growth driver
The only CEO I can think of at the moment that is Jobs like is Elon Musk. But he is busy saving the planet.