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Do you think it’s time for Tim Cook to move on? He’s a #’s guy not a Visionary


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MacWorld78

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Having a Visionary mindset are not easy to get it & Steve Jobs is very rare and unique mindset than rest of the population. Tim Cook is very good business leader to keep thing stall for long as possible while significantly hardware/software tweak.

Apple firm will never let him go because of the shareholders make too much money out of him.

We all love revolutionary design of the hardware/software, this is not going to happened with Apple products for while, because we all expecting too much based on rumours design concept.

Learn to accept what Apple is offering in this lifetime, don't believe too much from rumours sources.
 

Alpha God Vonn

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Yeah, it’s also very sad that the angle of view is unchanged since they first introduced it in 2017, The touch ID with iPhone 6s received a major upgrade after two years. Still impossible to use it close to the face or on the table
This is my whole Point of this post. Under A Visionary leader the Face ID tec would of been updated by now. It’s been 4 years now
 
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pshufd

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Having a Visionary mindset are not easy to get it & Steve Jobs is very rare and unique mindset than rest of the population. Tim Cook is very good business leader to keep thing stall for long as possible while significantly hardware/software tweak.

Apple firm will never let him go because of the shareholders make too much money out of him.

We all love revolutionary design of the hardware/software, this is not going to happened with Apple products for while, because we all expecting too much based on rumours design concept.

Learn to accept what Apple is offering in this lifetime, don't believe too much from rumours sources.

I think that the M1 is revolutionary. It's the culmination of a considerable amount of work.
 

Serban55

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$$$ and some rich board members don’t = success to me. We aren’t the Same. $$ don’t move me.
It doesnt move you because you are not an $$ , when you will have your own company, you will understand
Tim Cook just made the perfect smartphone, realible, best battery/ performance in the industry, so the mac with apple silicon is going in tge perfect direction
Apple watch still saves lives and keep a lot of people healthy, airpods changed the industry and so on
Yea, Tim needs to stay, until car segment its released under his authority, after that who knows, maybe his age will make him leave
This topic can be close, its just not helping anyone in everything
 

Alpha God Vonn

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Having a Visionary mindset are not easy to get it & Steve Jobs is very rare and unique mindset than rest of the population. Tim Cook is very good business leader to keep thing stall for long as possible while significantly hardware/software tweak.

Apple firm will never let him go because of the shareholders make too much money out of him.

We all love revolutionary design of the hardware/software, this is not going to happened with Apple products for while, because we all expecting too much based on rumours design concept.

Learn to accept what Apple is offering in this lifetime, don't believe too much from rumours sources.
Excellent Post & Point. Without the rumors I would of been Highly Disappointed in the iPhone 13 Vs knowing what to expect. I’m a truth seeker I like to know what’s go happen or at least get and idea
 
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Alpha God Vonn

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It doesnt move you because you are not an $$ , when you will have your own company, you will understand
Tim Cook just made the perfect smartphone, realible, best battery/ performance in the industry, so the mac with apple silicon is going in tge perfect direction
Apple watch still saves lives and keep a lot of people healthy, airpods changed the industry and so on
Yea, Tim needs to stay, until car segment its released under his authority, after that who knows, maybe his age will make him leave
In my own Business I refuse to put anything out with my name on it unless it’s different and it’s the best product at that time. I don’t care about the $$. The $$ & women lol will follow after the Vision & Great product is put into place. RIP Steve Jobs
 

Alpha God Vonn

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I think you must have had just luck. Voiding the warranty has never been a free pass at Apple.
Naw time after time I would break my charger port on my phone to get a new one. Under Tim Cook I did it once they guy took his lil flashlight and said oh no these ports have been destroyed. That will be $200
 
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Rob198612

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Apple needs a “Visionary” person in its leadership position one who has a passion for technology & also has a backbone like Steve Jobs and is not afraid of saying No and calling people out. Steve Jobs in my opinion would of never released the current iPhone 13 Pro. It would of been much much better. Tim Cook is a logistic & a numbers guy. Not a leader that should be charged and not one that others inspire to be & look up to.

I get what you are saying but under Steve Jobs we also have had Meh phone years for example

the iPhone 3G was released and wow game changer

then iPhone 3GS basically same phone

the iPhone 4 then the iPhone 4S basically same phone like the 4.

and those were under Jobs report say Steve Jobs also worked on the 5 and on the 5S
 
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ApplesAreSweet&Sour

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I wouldn't want to place all blame on a single person.

However, the thing that increasingly sours my perception of Apple is the ever-increasing number of products in every iPhone line-up and the overtly calculated and greedy ways that Apple cuts and alters both hardware and software features from the lower spec'ed models, and sometimes even higher spec'd models that still aren't as capable as the most expensive ones in the line-up in a given year.

My biggest gripe with the confusing line-up is not the price, but first and foremost how much fine-print you need to go through and how, almost every year, the media has to put out various charts and explainers for consumers to grasp exactly what you gain or lose from buying one iPhone over the other despite them carrying the same model number and being released the same year.

And what adds to this confusion, is how many of the key features don't always align with the specs of the models.

Like, why on Earth would you even put out a 128GB iPhone 13 Pro a "Pro" model in the year you're promoting iPhone as this "Hollywood ready" video recording beast if it, unlike the other storage tiers, can only do ProRes at 1080p/30 fps. ProRes fills it up too fast at 128GB? Then cut the 128GB model from line-up altogether and start the 13 Pros at 256GB. Or just don't give any of the Pro models ProRes@4k this year.

Promoting the 13 Pros as tools for high-end amateur filmmaking and then putting out a model with the "Pro" moniker that is missing a pro feature just doesn't align with anything else than making more money.

There are far too many products in the iPhone lineup and they are too different on too many parameters.
 

RRC

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This is my whole Point of this post. Under A Visionary leader the Face ID tec would of been updated by now. It’s been 4 years now

Yet it’s still the most secure in the industry, and no one can even get close?!

What does that say about the revolutionary visionary rivals?
 
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MacWorld78

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I think that the M1 is revolutionary. It's the culmination of a considerable amount of work.
ARM-based chipset been around since 1985, Apple use hardware tweak based on their own requirement, just clever marketing that make M1 chipset look revolutionary.
 
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seth556

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Naw time after time I would break my charger port on my phone to get a new one. Under Tim Cook I did it once they guy took his lil flashlight and said oh no these ports have been destroyed. That will be $200

Sounds like Tim Cook has been highly successful. Tough to say that this wouldn’t have happened under SJ’s leadership though, you weren’t the only one to do this.

It’s also funny that you’re saying Tim Cook needs to go because the Apple stores under his leadership won’t give you free phones.
 

The Game 161

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And yet what exactly should apple be doing instead? They are adding good improvements while not in massive amounts it’s still there. apple are never going to give you massive upgrades year on year but ones that fit their level of user experience.

foldables will be here likely in a few years. while the foldable markets are doing well it still has flaws from a software point of view which will take time to develop. When apple makes a foldable for one they will have the software nailed down.
 

pshufd

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ARM-based chipset been around since 1985, Apple use hardware tweak based on their own requirement, just clever marketing that make M1 chipset look revolutionary.

If it is so easy, then why hasn't anyone else been successful at it?

I think that the software effort was more than the hardware effort and the software effort is still ongoing. If it were easy, Microsoft would have beaten Apple to it given that they started back around 2010 on WARM. Or you could even argue that they started in the 1990s with WinCE.

If you think that it's so easy, why haven't you started your own company to make a revolutionary ARM PC?
 

Lioness~

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As I said in: https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...eo.2309888/page-7?post=30302157#post-30302157

Regarding concerns that Apple employees have raised, they don’t felt he listen to them.
Not more then ~5 yrs with this guy as CEO I hope and guess as well.
If he makes himself unpopular by employees it doesn’t go in the right direction for him.

At one point the board might listen to employees if that escalates, hopefully.
 

pshufd

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As I said in: https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...eo.2309888/page-7?post=30302157#post-30302157

Regarding concerns that Apple employees have raised, they don’t felt he listen to them.
Not more then ~5 yrs with this guy as CEO I hope and guess as well.
If he makes himself unpopular by employees it doesn’t go in the right direction for him.

At one point the board might listen to employees if that escalates, hopefully.

Their issues are across tech these days. Employees have not been used to the amount of leverage that they have today and are making it known because they can.
 

Oridus

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Apple needs a “Visionary” person in its leadership position one who has a passion for technology & also has a backbone like Steve Jobs and is not afraid of saying No and calling people out. Steve Jobs in my opinion would of never released the current iPhone 13 Pro. It would of been much much better. Tim Cook is a logistic & a numbers guy. Not a leader that should be charged and not one that others inspire to be & look up to.

A few people say this every single year, yet every single year people still buy the product en masse… seems to me like the majority is speaking with their wallets as opposed to being upset that Tim Cook is not Steve Jobs (shocker) on a message board.
 
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pshufd

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More power to the people ❤️‍🔥


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