These are my concerns as an iPhone user. I want my communications to be more secure when messaging from my phone. I currently use a third party app for this, but I expect Apple, who never shut up about how much they value privacy and encryption and blah blah blah, to take this more seriously right out of the box.
Apple's platform is already secure. And the reason they blah, blah, blah is because it is so. Why should Apple take a non-neutral solution and adapt their ecosystem to it? Seems like legitimate arguments both ways.
If you don't control the device or service on the other end how is that possible? Nothing about RCS as a standard makes sending messages to Android devices more secure, in contrast, supporting RCS on iPhone opens Apple's users to privacy invasive tracking and targeted advertising from Google or any of the other RCS brokering services in the future that may not even be as sensitive to privacy as Google. At least with SMS, it's a government regulated service in many countries that allows legal recourse if it's abused. RCS is not regulated.
I’m not saying it has to be RCS specifically, I’m saying Cook’s answer of making everyone in my life buy an iPhone isn’t good enough.
Because it’s something that affects their own customers and could improve the experience of using an iPhone? Call me crazy, but that feels like enough of a reason to me.
Its one of those things I don’t care about. So while people will have different thoughts on this, i understand apples supposed rational.
Try getting a photo or a video from someone on the opposite platform. You'll instantly understand what's the issue. Plus the whole privacy thing...
People are too hung up ion the protocol and don't understand the moment you have two endpoints on two different services the idea of security and privacy goes out the window. It doesn't matter if the messages themselves are encrypted, if you know who is talking to who and when, you can make all kinds of very accurate privacy invasive conclusions.
Or group chats. Someone in a multiplatform group text thread I’m in changed their number recently and we had to nuke the entire thread and start again to remove their old number from the group. I even tried Apple support to see if there was another way around it and they acted like this was a totally reasonable thing to do.
It’s also not just about security though. It’s about sending better quality images and videos, and having better control over things like group chats. See this post from me as to why that’s important to me as an iPhone user:
Ah. I learned something today. Thank you for the explanation.
And now you have moved the goalposts from Apple should secure everyone's messaging regardless of platform to Apple should give everyone the same user experience regardless of platform.
These are the wants of iPhone users as well.
This was never a goal post AT ALL. We literally aren't even discussing this. Security it NOT the issue. Sending to Android is ALREADY insecure and we are not at all arguing that Apple fix that.
The poster I was responding to specifically said they wanted the messaging to Android be more secure. So maybe you should poll the members of your “We” club before you speak on their behalf.
Nope, I’ve been pretty consistent about wanting a better experience the whole way through this thread. Apologies for not copy and pasting a detailed list of demands into every message.
LoL, Google doesn't control RCS which is indeed a standard.
If google is first to market with all the infrastructure, installed-base of users, and add-on features to RCS that people actually want, the actual standard is irrelevant. HTML 4 was the standard but that didn't stop Microsoft and its bastardization of the features set offered to their overwhelming user base from making Internet Explorer the de facto standard.
Right and it would be the users who can use encrypted RCS if they had it in the messages app.
Apple doesn't own SMS. All the carriers have it implemented so all phone manufacturers have to support it.
