you could just use whatsapp/telegram/signal basically anything else
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Tim Cook Shoots Down Idea of iOS Adopting RCS Messages: 'Buy Your Mom an iPhone'
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rcs is not encrypted by default, also if its not supported by a carrier its worthless
It really is. Outside the US, no one wants to use or cares to use SMS for ANYTHING. Businesses use it to communicate with other businesses, clients, customers because it’s a broadly accepted non-verbal low cost communication standard.
If all the US carriers got together and starting charging big fees for SMS, Americans would move on to whatever Instant Messaging app fits their need and this wouldn’t be a conversation anymore. That’s why Google is trying to push their solution only in the US, because it’d fall on deaf ears everywhere else.
other than its a hodgepodge not everyone even supports the entire thing and its not even supported by more than 20 carriers outside the US
Yeah, standing in front of a crowd anywhere and saying, “I don’t know how to send a picture between Apple devices and Android devices” is indicating a lack of basic technical ability. Or, at LEAST, they’re indicating they don’t know how to use a search engine.
My deepest sympathies to all the android users that hang out here but you’re not going to get iMessage or RCS on iPhone. If you want to blue bubble your friends by an iPhone. 😂
Someone give him a raise because that alone deserves it! 😎
Sure, I can use those apps and have them - but most Android users I know just use SMS and then I get a really crappy image or video. It's just extra annoying to have to ask that things be sent twice especially when Apple could easily solve this issue for their users. There are many, many upsides to using Apple devices but their insular attitude sure isn't one of them.
WhatsApp is End to End Encrypted using Signal's open source encryption protocol they do not have access any data
WhatsApp‘s End to End Encryption, How does it work?
You must have heard about WhatsApp using end to end encryption.
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you'll find that only 20 carriers actually support RCS outside the USA, anything else is using googles implementation which only works over when you have a data connection.
That's a non-sequitur -- by that standard delivering messages in person is "better" for reasons that I alone quantify. And you're not wrong, but that's just not the argument here.
So let me rephrase to further quantify this for you and others -- Within the realm of the telco control, SMS is the lowest-common denominator messaging. And all the major telcos support RCS which is the evolution. It should be used where available.
Putting your argument back on its head, Apple et al should never support even SMS because "all of the Instant Messaging apps available are better options". You see? It's not appropriate either way.
I've said it before, it's like using HTTPS where available instead of HTTP. Both are available. One is more secure. It's opportunistic. RCS, like HTTPS, doesn't have to be universal, it doesn't need to be omnipresent, it increases the security for both APPLE CUSTOMERS as well as others, because anything sent using old-SMS is not secure.
Well, Verge Reporter’s mum should upgrade to the gold class standard in smart phones. There is a new iPhone tomorrow, I believe.
rcs isn't a standard and outside of america it barely even exists
WhatsApp is owned by Meta/Facebook. That alone is reason enough that I'd never use it. If there's anybody more egregious than Google about mining personal data, it's Meta/Facebook. I trust them for privacy about like I'd trust an alcoholic to guard my liquor cabinet.WhatsApp is End to End Encrypted using Signal's open source encryption protocol they do not have access any data
Yours is the right answer, of course. If a user’s requirement is to use text messaging through the carrier as their “social media” (not an Apple requirement, but the user will only accept that as a solution), Tim’s actually right, it’d be better if they both are using iPhones if one is using an iPhone.
However, if the user is in ANY way interested in relaxing their requirements such they can instead use the right tool for the job, they will find there are a great number of solutions out there, WhatsApp being only one.
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only 20 carriers outside the usa support rcs hardly an evolution.
Google even has a Messages app for iOS. BUT… doesn’t support RCS.
Honestly nobody outside the US cares less.
Children bullying one another because of the colour of a text message is very much a US thing. It's a strangely polarised country.
Everywhere else people just use WhatsApp and nobody really cares about blue or green bubbles.
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Google needs to just release an Google Messages app on the iPhone, one that integrates with the default messenger app on Android.
Wonder how ole Tim Cook will feel once he sees a bunch of iPhone users have group chats on the Google Messenger app in order to be more inclusive towards Android friends.
Wonder how ole Tim Cook will feel once he sees a bunch of iPhone users have group chats on the Google Messenger app in order to be more inclusive towards Android friends.
They have Google Voice on iOS and it doesn't support RCS for text messaging either. Only SMS.
or the people just use ANY of the existing (telegram/whatsapp/signal/messenger) apps available on both platforms
Again, it's not the point! Non-sequitur!
A huge chunk of the internet WWW sites don't have HTTPS, should we abandon that?
USB4 was just released, with maybe 2 vendors adopting it so far, should we drop it? Hell, there are vendors who haven't even adopted USB 2.
The quantity of vendors does not mean anything. It isn't an all-or-nothing deal. It is using RCS where it is available, for greater security ON BOTH SIDES.