RCS doesn’t fix the problem about actually being able to be used with the largest number of phones out there. Currently, SMS does. Once you limit yourself to JUST smartphones… well, WhatsApp fixes the problem then. The only problem Google RCS fixes is the lack of a messaging client produced by Google.
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Tim Cook Shoots Down Idea of iOS Adopting RCS Messages: 'Buy Your Mom an iPhone'
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And think about this… WhatsApp was two years before that in 2009. Apple and Google both looked at what WhatsApp was doing, Apple did their thing and it’s still around today only being used between Apple phones, and Google… I don’t know, maybe that was around the time when they wouldn’t sell vectorized map data to Apple? Being shortsighted?
Because if Google had done on Android what Apple did on iOS, WhatsApp wouldn’t have had a chance. Oh and if they’d allowed Apple to use the vector map data, every iPhone in use now could be sending data to Google’s back end instead of Apple’s.
Why haven’t they shared their social media contact information with you? That’s how millions around the world share decent quality media with their frien… oh. Nevermind.
So, uh, both my wife and I have iPhones and I never actually consdered how the green bubble would affect certain things until your post. I think I understand a fair chunk of this frustration for some folks a lot better than I did a few minutes ago
I think you should. A lot of people that buy products from companies they actually don’t like find their feeling about life improved when they stop dealing with those companies.
The Google "universal profile" is encrypted and carrier support is irrelevant as it is built in to the Google Messages app.
You're sharing basically 4 year old information. RCS is an entirely different animal today.
I did actually but I'll state again, it's not Apple's obligation to make things easier for it's competition nor is it their obligation to adopt a standard that is in essence a Google Fork.
I get that you want the messages you send & receive to non-iOS users. I do as well sometimes when a picture I send doesn't go through.
Could Apple adopt RCS? Of course they could.
Does is make sense for them to adopt a competitor's (Google) "standard" when that competitor has a history of abandoning its messages apps/protocols? Absolutely not.
Apple isn’t keeping SMS around. The carriers are. Right now, if TMobile was to adopt RCS and send those messages to the iPhone just like it does SMS messages, they would show up on the iPhone. Apple wouldn’t have to do anything. Same with any other carriers.
Thing is, carriers aren’t going to support RCS in that way as they see no benefit to adopting it. There’s just no market need for a worldwide, all phones, carrier based solution that’s higher fidelity than MMS is currently.
It doesn’t have to be RCS specifically. I never said it had to be RCS specifically. That’s just the option that Apple is being handed because they’re dragging their feet to the detriment of their own customers’ experience.
Apple could invent their own standard that works the way they want it to, or work with Google to create a fork of the RCS or whatever that they deem is acceptable, all we as users want is a better experience.
I shouldn’t have to hawk iPhones to friends, family, and acquaintances just to send high quality media. Apple can and should do better.
RCS is hard to understand by the organization that created it (so much so that they don’t even mention it anymore on the GSMA website). Expecting Cook to try to explain to an audience at the Code Conference (which, I mean, if one is attending a Code Conference, one SHOULD already know the answer to that question).
I believe that would be a good idea for those that find the statement troubling. The sooner they can remove devices from that company from their purview, the better it would be for their mental well-being.
I actually hope they might be working on developing something to better facilitate communication between messaging platforms, regardless of what they might be because you are right - Apple can and should do better
Wow, this is such a BS entitled thing to say. Reporter should've responded with "great, I'll send you the bill".
Corporate execs live in a different world where there is unlimited money to throw at any problem, and forget their company's customers do not.
"I also have friends that use Android" "Buy them all iPhones too"
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I think he’s making fun of someone coming to a Code Conference and asking a “How can I send pictures and video to my mom” question.
Was this a high schooler that asked the question? Actually, I’d have to guess “no”, at their age, they’re already using their social media/messaging platform of choice and have already set up an account for their mom.Why has this person not set up a social media account or instant messaging client for their mom to share media? There’s a deeper question in there somewhere.
There’s already a uniform consistent protocol, SMS/MMS, that the carriers already support. I guess the government could set up their own brokerage servers to send non-carrier based messages from one network to another. People seem to be 100% ok with the government in the middle of all their messaging, don’t they? /s
To be clear, the carriers didn’t “adopt” it. Adopting it would have been the outcome from the CCMI initiative, where it’s supported by the carriers and those signals get sent to iPhones and either get degraded to SMS or get sent as RCS. What the carriers did is give up on it and told Google they could do whatever they want. I wouldn’t doubt that some decent amount of money changed hands in order for Google to say “So-and-so supports Google RCS!”
There’s nothing preventing Google from releasing an RCS client on the iPhone. I find it interesting that they haven’t.
"I don't hear our users asking that we put a lot of energy in on that at this point" you don't hear your users at all you pill! Apple is a big deaf ear and that pisses me off even though I love their hardware. Their software sucks.
My statement is 100% correct. The RCS standard has no encryption as part of the standard. Google added encryption on top of RCS, so right now the only way to use RCS and have encryption is to use google implementation.
I mean there are apps for that. iMessage is really only still a big deal in the USA, because we’re as stubborn as Apple is about simply installing another app—we’ll install apps like TikTok (well, I won’t) but an App that universally works? Nah.
Lol. I have tried ridiculously hard pre-me having an iPhone to get people to download WhatsApp. They have 50048484 game apps on their phone but wouldn’t do it.
Carriers don't support RCS at all anymore. They all gave up on it because Google was willing to carry the mantle with their universal profile.
I don't know what you mean when you say T-Mobile could send an RCS message to an iPhone. iPhones don't support the RCS protocol at this time.