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chfilm

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Honestly if I could afford it I’d go with nano.. imagine the feel of holding something almost like a piece of paper in your hands.. :) (I mean reading a website).. then again I remember the struggle back then when the Pro Display XDR came out. I went to the store four times before I could decide.. in the end I got glossy - but during all those visits I met my future office co owner. Nice huh?😉
 
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DMG35

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Just went to the store today to compare. It was an easy decision once I saw them in person. Hoping to replace my remarkable and my iPad Pro with this new iPad. I Got the Nano

No you didn't. They won't be in stores until next week.
 
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Macalway

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For me this is a solution to a problem that doesn't exist. If you have a display where you are constantly noticing the reflections, this sort of tech is very helpful. But I've had zero issues with the present, rather matte iPad screens.

Office environments may be different, I don't know. Certainly a large display is going be more prone to refections. Also, there's the different methods used with this to consider.

It may be that down the road I'll switch. It would be nice to have this new tech be good enough to compel me to do so.
 

WhySoSerious

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Hell no. A big HELL NO with the nano screens. Lowers clarity of text. Lowers vibrancy/contrast of colors/blacks. More fickle when it comes to cleaning the screen. More susceptible to scratching. HELL NO TO NANO GLASS SCREENS.

Hell no
 
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giggles

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Hell no. A big HELL NO with the nano screens. Lowers clarity of text. Lowers vibrancy/contrast of colors/blacks. More fickle when it comes to cleaning the screen. More susceptible to scratching. HELL NO TO NANO GLASS SCREENS.

Hell no

1. yet to be determined and certainly better text clarity than existing matte screen protectors

2. yet to be determined the actual degree of vibrancy/contrast degradation when not shining direct light on it, and certainly better than existing matte screen protectors

3. nope, you’re thinking another kind of nano-texture, this is chemical touch-friendly nano-texture with smooth outer layer

4. nope, you’re thinking another kind of nano-texture, this is chemical touch-friendly nano-texture with smooth outer layer
 

lars666

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1. yet to be determined and certainly better text clarity than existing matte screen protectors

2. yet to be determined the actual degree of vibrancy/contrast degradation when not shining direct light on it, and certainly better than existing matte screen protectors

3. nope, you’re thinking another kind of nano-texture, this is chemical touch-friendly nano-texture with smooth outer layer

4. nope, you’re thinking another kind of nano-texture, this is chemical touch-friendly nano-texture with smooth outer layer
Not arguing against 3 and 4, you may be right, but the fact that Apple is putting a special cleaning cloth to the nano iPad as they do with the nano XDR display makes me at least a bit hesitant.
 
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Mindfighter

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Not arguing against 3 and 4, you may be right, but the fact that Apple is putting a special cleaning cloth to the nano iPad as they do with the nano XDR display makes me at least a bit hestiant.
Could be just to provide a bit of extra value, the cloth is actually really nice to wipe of my current ipad and iphone with, gets easily rid of fingerprints. We’ll see when the reviews comes.
 
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JPizzzle

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I’m sure the nano screen will look fantastic and I’m sure the glossy will also look fantastic. However, from the comparisons shown at the unveiling there is certainly a difference between the two in contrast. Maybe in real life this isn’t as noticeable who knows. The question is really about priorities. One is not inherently better or worse than the other.

For me, I don’t anticipate issues with reflections enough to warrant losing the pros of the glossy screen. However, if I find myself being sensitive to reflections or being someone who uses the device outside to the point where I’m not enjoying it, then I would certainly be tempted to get a nano.

Ultimately, it’s nice that Apple is offering this option for those who need it.
 
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RamGuy

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From a psychological point of view, I can't understand how the nano display can be a "no compromise" solution. Isn't the entire idea that the nano etching is supposed to reduce glare by having this etching in the glass that disperses the light evenly across the display?

This is the same idea as matte displays; it's just fancier as it's being done directly within the glass itself, not using a plastic film on top of the display. This will indeed feel much nicer when touching the display, essential on a touch device like an iPad.

But in the end, dispersing the light will obviously elevate the display's black levels. This will feel more noticeable on OLED, as you have perfect 0 nits blacks on a per-pixel level. On IPS displays, you have nowhere close to 0 nits blacks, which makes dispersing light across the display not that impactful as the black levels aren't true black to begin with, and the contrast of the display primarily relies on brightness and colour, not black levels.

The Tandem OLED offers immense brightness, more so than you commonly see on OLEDs. Elevating the black levels should ensure contrast isn't as limited as it normally is on an OLED. But you will notice when your normally 0 nits black levels suddenly are far from being 0 nits due to the dispersing of the light that the nano etching results in.

The big question is how noticeable this dispersing of light is. How much ambient light is needed for the black levels to feel noticeably elevated? There is a trade-off to be made her. In scenarios where the non-nano display would be next to useless because of glare, you are much better off by nano etching dispearsing the glare as you are better off with elevated black levels than a screen you could barely use. The question is, what will happen in your normal day-to-day ambient light condition? Will the natural ambient light in your living room be enough to elevate the black levels to feel noticeably limited? That is the million-dollar question.

If you have reasonable control over ambient light in your normal day-to-day conditions, the nano should be a no-brainer, as you shouldn't have any trouble with the dispersing effect causing you any trouble. It's not going to be noticeable in dark conditions. And in terrible lightning conditions, like being outside in the sun, it will be preferrable as the glossy display will hardly work due to the glare. So you are much better of with elevated black levels when compared to a screen you can hardly see at all.

This is when we consider the effect the nano will have on the picture quality. Of course, we have questions regarding smearing and cleaning. If the nano etching proves to me much more complicated to keep clean, this might be a dealbreaker for a touch device for many users.


I changed the order on my wife iPad Pro 13-inch from nano to non-nano. In our living conditions, I can't see how the nano display won't affect the picture quality in my wife's day-to-day use of the iPad Pro. If reviews point to something different, I'll return it and order one with the nano display.
 

wavesm

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What about nano for reading ebooks?

I could never read in the iPad as I prefer ePaper feeling as Kindle. Would nano make it feel more like paper?

Also would it change the feeling of using the pen? I have a remarkable as do not like how slippery writingin the iPad feels.

Do you think the nano will make a difference?
 
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NikkiAngel

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What about nano for reading ebooks?

I could never read in the iPad as I prefer ePaper feeling as Kindle. Would nano make it feel more like paper?

Also would it change the feeling of using the pen? I have a remarkable as do not like how slippery writingin the iPad feels.

Do you think the nano will make a difference?
I have the same questions. I want to read more on my iPad, vs my kindle. I know eink is better but I travel a lot and taking my iPad, kindle and MBA is a lot of tech to travel with. I originally ordered the nano but switched to standard glass and now I’m worried I made the wrong choice and should’ve stayed with the nano. Even if my use case is solely ebooks.
 
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Rafterman

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And in terrible lightning conditions, like being outside in the sun, it will be preferrable as the glossy display will hardly work due to the glare.

An M2 or earlier iPad, yes. But the M4s run at 1000 nits of brightness (vs 600 for old iPads) and peak at 1600 for HDR. Sunlight shouldn't be a problem, unless you live on Mercury.
 

wavesm

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I have the same questions. I want to read more on my iPad, vs my kindle. I know eink is better but I travel a lot and taking my iPad, kindle and MBA is a lot of tech to travel with. I originally ordered the nano but switched to standard glass and now I’m worried I made the wrong choice and should’ve stayed with the nano. Even if my use case is solely ebooks.
Have you already used an iPad for ebooks? I really do not like it; probably because I have the bigger one and it is not confortable but also because the screen. Kindle is much better for me but maybe the nano makes a difference?

I also travel a lot and would prefer to reduce number of devices.
 
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wavesm

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My Mackbook pro also has 1000 nits (1600 peak). Outside it is unusable; even inside is not great if your have a lot os sunshine coming from the back.
 
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blairh

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I've been using an Apple Studio Display with nano since it was first available. My home office has many windows behind the screen so I find it essential at this point for that setup. However I personally would not get nano on my iPad as I'm not using the iPad in my office.

The nano iPad option is aimed at people using their iPads mainly outside in direct sunlight.
 

RickTaylor

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Also would it change the feeling of using the pen? I have a remarkable as do not like how slippery writingin the iPad feels.

Previous posts say the nano screen is created using a chemical process, not via etching, and is smooth. So it's not likely to help with that.

I have the same complaint about writing on the iPad, and I use a screen saver to help with that. Currently I'm using Astropad's Rock Paper Pencil.
 
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ssledoux

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I ordered the regular. If I want a more matte finish at any time, I’ll just buy a matte screen protector.

When I was doing a lot of writing on my iPads in the past, I bought a paper-like screen protector. I figure that’s always an option if I get to where I’m using the pencil a lot.
 

NikkiAngel

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My Mackbook pro also has 1000 nits (1600 peak). Outside it is unusable; even inside is not great if your have a lot os sunshine coming from the back.
See, this is why I’m waffling again. I guess I can always return the standard glass and buy the nano. I guess I’ll be outside all day on the 15th with my new iPad, trying to test it out.
 

Rafterman

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I prefer regular glass, never cared for matte. I work at home and next to my living room window, and neither my MacBook Pro, iPad or Apple Studio display have problems with glare. No overhead lights either, so maybe that affects some people and their devices.
 

giggles

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I like that he chose to show footage of the nano as a B-roll for the part where he talks about how good the blacks and colors are. (go to 3:50)
 
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