iPad Pro To nano or not to nano?

[giggles]

Another hands on (quick) opinion.

“So much better” for what?
Watching a movie?
Reading a book?
Light office work?
Writing an email?
Playing a videogame?
Taking notes?
“So much better” for WHAT?

Probably “so much better” only for watching videos/movies.
Which in 18 months we’ll be doing on the Vision Air anyway.

Also, people acting like the non-nano in these comparison videos is ok. (“You can see all the overhead lights, how cool is that!!”)
It’s not ok, those reflections are cringe.
They’re both “not ok” for different reasons and use cases.
The non-nano can mitigate its issues by pumping out nits.
The nano can mitigate its issues by being looked at straight at a 0° angle.

 

[giggles]

Nano in a daylight-imbued living room (like the ones regular people live in)

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So wholesome and reflection-free.

 

[xsmett]

Yes reflection free but looking like a middle class lcd screen.
Anyway, we will see how good or bad it is in the upcoming reviews.

 

[DMG35]

Do we know if the tech is any different between the nano texture used on Pro Display XDR and the Studio Display? I sneezed accidentally on my Nano Texture Studio Display and I cannot get the smudges off the screen. How in the hell am I supposed to believe I will be able to use the touch surface and have any sort of durability long term?

I think we can safely say that because the iPad is a touch screen device that Apple has made the nano texture touch friendly.

 

[er2429]

I think we can safely say that because the iPad is a touch screen device that Apple has made the nano texture touch friendly.

There are now a bunch of videos online basically saying that it's a totally different process than what is on the Apple Pro Display XDR and Studio Display but they're using the same branding. It's apparently a chemical process vs. an etching process. This also explains why the nano texture looks like it performs worse than the desktop technologies in the video. The blacks are relatively gray in the videos I've seen at least.

 

[giggles]

Also, people acting like the non-nano in these comparison videos is ok. (“You can see all the overhead lights, how cool is that!!”)
It’s not ok, those reflections are cringe.

Nice cringefest of reflections on the non-nano here

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Even in the part where he’s sketching on a white background.

Now you nano-naysayers can never unsee them.

 

[Rafterman]

So, reading these latest comments, apparently now that nano exists, every iPad produced prior to nano has been garbage and completely unusable cringegfests of reflections?

Nano is fine if that is what you value. Pluses and minuses for each.

 

[jameschho]

I've put matte screen protectors on every iPad I've owned... So order the nano was a no brainer. I also have a nano Studio Display and love it.

 

[xsmett]

Nice cringefest of reflections on the non-nano here

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Even in the part where he’s sketching on a white background.

Now you nano-naysayers can never unsee them.

With bright light and outdoors there will be a lot of reflections with the standard glass, of course. The nano will eliminate them a lot (not totally) but as being said, the nano glass has some downsides too. Everyone should just get what fits best in their needs. Both have their pros and cons.

 

[stinksroundhere]

I've put matte screen protectors on every iPad I've owned... So order the nano was a no brainer. I also have a nano Studio Display and love it.

I would really like nano on a MacBook Pro. I can't use my Mac in the cafe downstairs because the windows are massive and all I see is sky reflection in the screen.

 

[Branaghan]

So, reading these latest comments, apparently now that nano exists, every iPad produced prior to nano has been garbage and completely unusable cringegests of reflections?

Nano is fine if that is what you value. Pluses and minuses for each.

I don't think this is something new... looking at cheaper iPAD specs, you can clearly see some didn't have anti-reflective coating.

Spoiler

The question is, why would anyone think this is worse?

 

[Analog Kid]

Yes reflection free but looking like a middle class lcd screen.

Are you, by chance, watching it on a middle class LCD screen? As great as the new iPad display are, I don't expect that videos of them will look any better than the display you're viewing on...

 

[klasma]

FYI: https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...ad-air-are-finally-here.2425959/post-33124302

 

[klasma]

It’s still weird that they didn’t nano-texture the bezels, because they did on the Pro Display XDR, leaving just a “cutout” for the camera.

 

[gorkt]

Yeah I ordered the nano but then after seeing videos of it, I cancelled it - too washed out. I figure I could get a screen protector that gives the same effect if I really wanted it.

 

[giggles]

Yeah I ordered the nano but then after seeing videos of it, I cancelled it - too washed out. I figure I could get a screen protector that gives the same effect if I really wanted it.

A matte/"paper-like" screen protector will
- degrade sharpness/clarity
- change the feel under your finger, your finger will grate against the grain instead of gently gliding over a smooth surface

Source: I've used a Paperlike screen protector on my main iPad for years.

The nano would minimize sharpness degradation and be still smooth under the fingers.

 

[Rafterman]

A matte/"paper-like" screen protector will
- degrade sharpness/clarity
- change the feel under your finger, your finger will grate against the grain instead of gently gliding over a smooth surface

Source: I've used a Paperlike screen protector on my main iPad for years.

The nano would minimize sharpness degradation and be still smooth under the fingers.

Screen protectors can be removed and replaced. A nano screen, you're stuck with it forever if you ever change your mind.

 

[giggles]

Screen protectors can be removed and replaced. A nano screen, you're stuck with it forever if you ever change your mind.

Who picked the non-nano is stuck forever too, between a rock (reflections+glare on the non-nano) and a hard place (a subpar matte experience hacked together by means of a 15$-30$ screen protector, as opposed to the ultimate matte experience devised by Apple with minimal sharpness degradation).

 

[Rafterman]

Who picked the non-nano is stuck forever too, between a rock (reflections+glare on the non-nano) and a hard place (a subpar matte experience hacked together by means of a 15$-30$ screen protector, as opposed to the ultimate matte experience devised by Apple with minimal sharpness degradation).

Applied properly, a screen protector looks as good as the screen it goes on. There is no screen protector, even substandard, that will cancel the matte nano finish.

 

[tim1000]

Yes reflection free but looking like a middle class lcd screen.
Anyway, we will see how good or bad it is in the upcoming reviews.

when are the reviews?

 

[iSteveo]

imore recommends the nano texture screen, or at least the author of that article does.

 

[giggles]

Applied properly, a screen protector looks as good as the screen it goes on.

This statement leads nowhere.

I'll rephrase: if one's goal is no glare/reflections, and one has bought the non-nano (glossy) iPad Pro because "youtubers said so and I was insecure about the OLED not looking like OLEDs are traditionally supposed to look, and maybe one day I'll want to watch my entire movie collection on my 13" tablet instead of watching it on my 77" OLED tv or on a Vision headset", one is forever stuck with no "optimal and definitive way" to achieve the matte look.

The "optimal and definitive way" is Apple's chemical treatment that preserves the smoothness of the glass and very likely (to be confirmed next week) minimizes the loss in visual quality compared to any 3rd party matte screen protector on the market. And even if you argue about the visual quality part (i.e. if you think the best matte screen protector out there if applied properly on a glossy iPad can look almost as good as Apple's nanotexture, which I personally doubt to be case), the nano would still be better than 3rd party matte screen protectors on the "smoothness to the touch, native feeling" (see Federico Viticci's reporting about this) front.

 

[Rafterman]

This statement leads nowhere.

I'll rephrase: if one's goal is no glare/reflections, and one has bought the non-nano (glossy) iPad Pro because "youtubers said so and I was insecure about the OLED not looking like OLEDs are traditionally supposed to look, and maybe one day I'll want to watch my entire movie collection on my 13" tablet instead of watching it on my 77" OLED tv or on a Vision headset", one is forever stuck with no "optimal and definitive way" to achieve the matte look.

The "optimal and definitive way" is Apple's chemical treatment that preserves the smoothness of the glass and very likely (to be confirmed next week) minimizes the loss in visual quality compared to any 3rd party matte screen protector on the market. And even if you argue about the visual quality part (i.e. if you think the best matte screen protector out there if applied properly on a glossy iPad can look almost as good as Apple's nanotexture, which I personally doubt to be case), the nano would still be better than 3rd party matte screen protectors on the "smoothness to the touch, native feeling" (see Federico Viticci's reporting about this) front.

I argue for neither. I am simply pointing out that saying one of the other is "best" is pointless. The statement that the nano is superior was presented and I offered a counterpoint.

 

[tim1000]

I sure hope we get reviews or store display units prior to release. will nano texture be in short supply at the Apple Store? I see none for in store pick up at my store.

 

[c14nhl]

Non-nano for me.

I never use my iPad outdoors. I do however use it in an office, flat, where I see reflections often. It’s easy enough for me to adjust my placement to remove those reflections.

You can clearly see the nano texture disperse the reflection across the whole display when dealing with such a scenario. It removes the acute reflection but it does impact the rest of the display. And that’s fine, it’s doing exactly what it’s meant to do.

I can absolutely see where this would be a benefit, it’s just not where I use my device.