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ToonDoom

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This video was mentioned earlier in the thread.

I've linked it where she shows the differences.


What I notice here is that the blacks are good on both until she changes the angle. There is an obvious difference when looking at the backs when she moves the camera down.

Equally the reflections are much better, as you'd expect, on the nano.

I use my a lot iPad when camping outside. I'm really in two minds. I've got an order for the nano that's coming on the 15th May. So I'm going to keep this for now test at home and make a decision then. At least doing it this way round I can send it back and get a non nano on the same day if it bothers me.

I think Apple could have done a lot better highlighting the pros and cons. I did a chat with them and asked for negatives on the nano and she said there were none. I pushed on this and still nothing.
 
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ipos

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if really need anti reflective or matte just paste over it . having it natively on the screen itself very hard to maintain one.
 

klasma

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Did you see it first hand? Then, thanks for letting us know! If it’s that way, I won’t bother with nano texture.
This video gives a good impression I think:

The black level is clearly reduced even on-axis, and light sources are still an issue at the wrong angle (e.g. at time mark 2:00). There's also necessarily a sharpness reduction due to the grain of the texture.

The nano texture is really only for those who know for sure they need it and can live with the drawbacks.
 

ToonDoom

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This video gives a good impression I think:

The black level is clearly reduced even on-axis, and light sources are still an issue at the wrong angle (e.g. at time mark 2:00). There's also necessarily a sharpness reduction due to the grain of the texture.

The nano texture is really only for those who know for sure they need it and can live with the drawbacks.

It's his last sentence that is what I'm hoping sells if for me. I have campervan and travel a lot. I sit outside surfing and watching tv. At times the current iPad is just useless for me. I cannot see the screen at all in darker scenes. I'm hoping this solves that. The off axis viewing I do not know how much it will bother me. I never share the screen. So as long as it's not too small of a perfect angle I hope I can live with it.

I have one ordered and its due on release day so I think it's worth trying it. I'm not a big fan of buying stuff to try out but in this case when Apple have failed to transparently label the pros and cons if they get half of the items sold sent back its on them.
 
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Allen_Wentz

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There are many youtube videos etc that compare the glossy and etched glass OLED displays of the Steamdeck. Obviously not the same display but probably the closest comparison you could find for a handheld device.
Nah. I seldom trust UTube and it is only a week or so to live-compare the real thing from Apple.
 

xsmett

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I sit outside surfing and watching tv. At times the current iPad is just useless for me. I cannot see the screen at all in darker scenes. I'm hoping this solves that. The off axis viewing I do not know how much it will bother me. I never share the screen. So as long as it's not too small of a perfect angle I hope I can live with it.
Well, both screen technologies will have their downsides if you want to watch a movie on a bright day outside. Standard glass will have a lot of reflections and the nano texture will make the dark scene areas look very washed out and kinda bright.

Sure, I haven't seen the nano on the iPad pros so far, but that's what usually happens with general matte screens (like nano on apple display or a tv like Samsungs the frame for example).
 

ThatsMeRight

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To not nano.

I don't really like the degradation in image quality and all displays (both nano and non-nano) now hit 1000 nits so there's less of a need for a matte display.
 

Disher

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I`m sure there will screen savers coming out with the matte surface. Cheaper, and if you don`t like it, take it off
 

sracer

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I`m sure there will screen savers coming out with the matte surface. Cheaper, and if you don`t like it, take it off
Matte screen protectors are already available. I use them on all of my touchscreen devices. They're not for everybody, but for those that they are for, they're fantastic.
 

JPizzzle

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If you value the decreased reflectiveness over sharpness, clarity and saturation then the nano would be the way to go IMO. I skipped the nano studio display after hearing reports of fuzzish text. In my head it didn't make much sense to get a 5k monitor that wasn't as sharp as possible.

However, everyone's usage is different so get what works best for you. For my usage, the pros of nano don't outweigh the cons.
 
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er2429

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Do we know if the tech is any different between the nano texture used on Pro Display XDR and the Studio Display? I sneezed accidentally on my Nano Texture Studio Display and I cannot get the smudges off the screen. How in the hell am I supposed to believe I will be able to use the touch surface and have any sort of durability long term?
 

Populus

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If you value the decreased reflectiveness over sharpness, clarity and saturation then the nano would be the way to go IMO. I skipped the nano studio display after hearing reports of fuzzish text. In my head it didn't make much sense to get a 5k monitor that wasn't as sharp as possible.

I value sharpness, clarity and saturation over reflections honestly. And the reflections are minimized by the coating Apple applies.
 
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KPOM

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Do we know if the tech is any different between the nano texture used on Pro Display XDR and the Studio Display? I sneezed accidentally on my Nano Texture Studio Display and I cannot get the smudges off the screen. How in the hell am I supposed to believe I will be able to use the touch surface and have any sort of durability long term?
I think Apple told another rumor site that they used a new process that made it possible to add the nano texture option to the iPad.
 

Rafterman

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I use my a lot iPad when camping outside. I'm really in two minds. I've got an order for the nano that's coming on the 15th May. So I'm going to keep this for now test at home and make a decision then. At least doing it this way round I can send it back and get a non nano on the same day if it bothers me.

The thing cranks up to 1000 nits brightness (1600 with HDR content). A 12.9 was 600/1600. I doubt outdoors will be a problem.
 

klasma

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The thing cranks up to 1000 nits brightness (1600 with HDR content). A 12.9 was 600/1600. I doubt outdoors will be a problem.
1000 nits is usually cited as the minimum for sunlight readability. It’s okay-ish, but more would be better.
 

Branaghan

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The fact that they include a polishing cloth with the nano display version means that it’s probably not for me.
I always carried a microfiber cloth for electronic devices with any iPAD Pro I had... why is this a problem now? Unless you don't want yours to last. I think every Apple device should include one. It's cheaper than a charger. With regular use, it's a must to wipe the screen.

That coating is probably what I commented here:

If it helps to reduce eye strain (less glare) and improve image quality, why would anyone think it's a bad idea?

I hope the upcoming reviews give a good explanation about that tech.
 

spinstorm

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For me I have ordered a 1TB with nano. Really the nano is what sold me on the new iPad. The slimness and display and performance isn’t needed, my iPad M1 Pro 12.9 can do everything.

But glare really annoys me. I hate having glare as I often sit in sunny places to use my iPad. It isn’t intentional but it just always seems to happen (in the summer anyway).

So for me the nano is what does it. If I don’t like the nano then I’ll return it. It annoys me it costs so much because it has to be top end to have the nano.

My main issue is I always use a screen protector. I don’t want this fancy display getting damaged. But if I use a glossy protector it defeats the purpose of the display? I’m guessing. And if I use a matte protector then may as well just put that on my current iPad. That’s my main issue here.
 
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erikkfi

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If it'd been an option on the storage size I needed, I bet I'd have gotten it. But it wasn't, so Apple made my decision for me. :D
 
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Branaghan

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My main issue is I always use a screen protector. I don’t want this fancy display getting damaged. But if I use a glossy protector it defeats the purpose of the display? I’m guessing. And if I use a matte protector then may as well just put that on my current iPad. That’s my main issue here.
I thought screen protectors were not needed if you used good front/back covers (even the iPhones have these), and that same cloth for cleaning... aren't they somehow (don't know if this changed these days) guilty of reducing the naked screen responsiveness to your touch / PENCIL or the anti-reflective coating? If the answer is yes, why pay more for the display when it's going to be ruined by this protective layer?
 

wi1dstar

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I thought screen protectors were not needed if you used good front/back covers (even the iPhones have these), and that same cloth for cleaning... aren't they somehow (don't know if this changed these days) guilty of reducing the naked screen responsiveness to your touch / PENCIL or the anti-reflective coating? If the answer is yes, why pay more for the display when it's going to be ruined by this protective layer?
I think they were referring to using a matte screen protector. It’s more for the making it anti-reflective than protecting the screen. Most of the newer ones don’t really change the responsiveness of touch, at least in my experience. They do have the same downsides of reducing clarity slightly, especially off axis, as the new screen finish option on these iPads.
 
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