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If you're bent over your iPad as an artist and don't want to see your reflection or lights then you get the nano (if you want).

You don't need anyone's advice if they are not an artist or don't understand an artist's needs.

Wacom, XP Artist, and Huion displays all have matte surfaces even the OLED ones.
 

dz5b609

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Yeah, on the one hand it's nice to see some differentiation of the iPad product lines in terms of base storage and storage options but on the other hand the pricing ladder shenanigans continue with RAM options and the nano display options on the Pro lineup. SMH

I think they do that because it really is a pro-option that people without the specific use-case really shouldn't be getting.
 

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JustAnExpat

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This is my conundrum as well - always been a fan of matte screens (ordered them on the old-gen 15" MBPs) but now with OLED and primarily using it for media consumption and reading, is it worth it?

Wonder if it makes the camera more soft!?
How would it affect the camera? It's just the display that's being changed.
 
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From 5:55 onwards:

I will definitely go for the standard glas (but still 1 TB).

He's not an artist. Artists don't need the same kind of contrast and deep blacks that watching a HDR movie needs. They need reflections reduced and they need to be able to preview for things like print and non-OLED screens.

Literally every pen display has a matte or laminated screen like that including the new Wacom Movink.

 
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dz5b609

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Maybe not. It could be a once u see it, can’t go back kinda deal.
It's not, it's a coating for people with a specific workset, not a nice to have, the danger for Apple is people thinking it's a nice to have thing, which it's not. Which probably is why it's a special order thing and only available on the higher storage options.
 

dz5b609

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He's not an artist. Artists don't need the same kind of contrast and deep blacks that watching a HDR movie needs. They need reflections reduced and they need to be able to preview for things like print and non-OLED screens.

Literally every pen display has a matte or laminated screen like that including the new Wacom Movink.

His point is that you shouldn't get it without a specific workset, it's not just a nice to have option, it's a specific option for a specific workset.
 

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In my experience using Samsung G9 OLED displays, I'm very sceptical. The perfect blacks of OLED displays are elevated on my G9 OLED when light hits the display surface at the wrong angles. And the finish of my G9 OLED isn't even attempting to be anything other than glossy.

I expect Apple's nano-coating to leaps beyond the plastic finish on my G9 OLED, but still. The good thing about these OLED panels is that they have 1000 nits of all-screen brightness for both SDR and HDR. And 1600 nits peak brightness for HDR. With such luminance, you don't put the 0 nits blacks on as much to create great contrast. This will allow the nano-coating to elevate the black levels without the display feeling far worse, like on my G9 OLED with only 400 nits full-screen brightness and 800 nits peak brightness.

However, judging by the nano-coating on the XDR Pro Display, it will affect contrast by elevating black levels. This is bad for OLED displays as they usually provide perfect black levels. You are sacrificing picture quality to get a display finish that is less affected by ambient light conditions. It sounds like something suited for particular purposes when you add how easily the nano-texture gets smudges and whatnot. And this is most likely why it's limited to 1TB+ options only, and not the default option.

I was considering getting the nano-texture for the 1TB version anyway to get the fully featured M4 SoC and additional RAM. I don't like how the 256GB and 512GB models are limited by getting less CPU cores and half the RAM.
 

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How would it affect the camera? It's just the display that's being changed.

Before the videos and impressions came out, I thought the etching might have been all over the entire display but Apple purposefully left the bezels glossy so Face ID and the camera will be unaffected!
 
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DMG35

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You can you know, just return it for the regular version if you don’t like it. It’s not like you are stuck with it forever and can’t go back to a regular screen.
 

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He's not an artist. Artists don't need the same kind of contrast and deep blacks that watching a HDR movie needs. They need reflections reduced and they need to be able to preview for things like print and non-OLED screens.

Literally every pen display has a matte or laminated screen like that including the new Wacom Movink.

His perspective is pretty powerful.

Nano is only available on the 1TB and 2TB versions, meaning, higher end. Apple was intentional to release Nano only on these because real Pros on an iPad will benefit from this more given there workflows than an average user.
 

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After the discussion here, and what was posted on YouTube I too switched my order from the Nano to the regular screen. With the money saved cancelling the Nano screen I added the Apple Pencil Pro. I told the lady at Apple this is what happens when you order 10 seconds after the presentation is over with. A big plus I am getting the regular screened iPad a month earlier than the Nano version.

MacRumors saves the day.......again.
 

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A happy accident on the re-order. I had it set up for the interest free monthly payments, on the re-order they just charged my Apple Card for the full amount. The one thing I didn't like about the payment plan is it isn't setup for early payments. Now I can pay it off in big chunks and free the card for an iPhone 16. I am still hoping for a nicely upgraded iPad Mini, M3, better display, and 1TB storage 🙏
 

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A happy accident on the re-order. I had it set up for the interest free monthly payments, on the re-order they just charged my Apple Card for the full amount. The one thing I didn't like about the payment plan is it isn't setup for early payments. Now I can pay it off in big chunks and free the card for an iPhone 16. I am still hoping for a nicely upgraded iPad Mini, M3, better display, and 1TB storage 🙏
?? you can pay it off in chunks and still keep the 0%. I do it all the time
 
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transmaster

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?? you can pay it off in chunks and still keep the 0%. I do it all the time
Canceled the order and reordering it. In researching things I found opting for the payment plan also puts in a que for rolling it over the new update device. I am used to how Amazon works. This is the first Time I have done this. The Apple support lady was a big help in the future just cancel the order, and start over. This is what happens when you are massively hot to trot for a new iPad. I guess it is official now I am an Apple fanboy....with some cognitive mitigation ;)
 
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TracerAnalog

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I ordered the nano texture display. I usually use my polyester t-shirt to clean the screen on my current iPad Pro. Is that a bad idea with the nano texture display?
Best use paper towels. Or better yet: sand paper. It will surely take care of fingerprints. Ah and don’t forget to use some acid for proper cleaning. On your iPad I mean… your recreational drug use is none of my business.
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Allen_Wentz

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That is the question.
Nano is to reduce glare. If glare does not bother you or you can always adjust viewing to avoid glare then you do not need to pay for nano. Personally I find glare to be a huge issue and will always pay for nano/matte displays when properly done.
 
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menist

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Non nano, because I’ll be slapping a screen protector on it! Also Matte coating on older MacBook Pros peels off very ugly overtime. I expect it to be the same here. Big pass!
 

DMG35

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After doing some research I've also ordered the non Nano glass. I'll keep whichever one I like best.
 

wi1dstar

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I switched my order from nano to normal. Although I would have no problem only wiping it with the included cloth I’m just worried about long-term durability. Same as it would be on a factory-painted matte car. Maintenance can be a real pain on those and I’m just worried about the glass smoothing out over time. The last thing I would want is to get out of warranty for the iPad and then have to pay to get the screen replaced. Changing my order also allows me to get the iPad at launch instead of sometime near the middle or end of June. I was really yearning for a matte screen but I don’t want to be the guinea pig on this one. Apple already got me with the Vision Pro lol.
 
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