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Touch Bar discussion [merged]

dugbug said:
Yeah it's just too interesting to pass up. In concept I love it far more than a touch screen.
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exactly. I'm such a sucker.

At worst i'll return it or sell it. I do know the shiny new tech will have me fascinated for a while. There's a dollar value to that, no? :D
 
$10 the next revision they double the size of the touchbar... to like... the same size as the number keys. Dunno why they didn't do this to start with. Functions keys are pretty thin.
 
I just received my new 15" MBP - can someone tell me how to remove the Siri button from the touch bar? In the Verge review he mentioned being able to swap it for something he used more like Spotlight - I would love to do this, but I don't see it anywhere.
 
already found a bug...if you customise the TB and you put a slider first button from the left like brightness or volume, the slide bar is hidden
 
godboy said:
I just received my new 15" MBP - can someone tell me how to remove the Siri button from the touch bar? In the Verge review he mentioned being able to swap it for something he used more like Spotlight - I would love to do this, but I don't see it anywhere.
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I made a post some time ago about the features of Touch Bar and how to customize it and so on. The post can be found here.

But to answer your question, easiest method is to open any application and from View menu select "Edit Touch Bar". Also look in to System Preferences - Keyboard.
 
There's only so much real estate there, and what you add there you must take away from somewhere else (key spacing, size, trackpad, etc). Also, remember it is probably also deeper than the keyboard, so it takes up internal space for its length and width, further creating a real estate issue (e.g. not just surface real estate, now less space for internal components.

Matt Leaf said:
$10 the next revision they double the size of the touchbar... to like... the same size as the number keys. Dunno why they didn't do this to start with. Functions keys are pretty thin.
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does anyone know or have any idea how this thing (13in with and without TB) performs with the adobe suite (after effects and Premiere) and maya? a lot of reviews that I have read tells you a lot of general working but no serious pro performance markers like rendering, scrubbing, exporting etc etc and battery life before and after
 
Has anyone tried to use the touch bar in any of the Microsoft Office apps (Excel, Work, Powerpoint)? It's not working for me. Does it need to be enabled in settings somewhere? When I fire up any of those programs and tool around a bit, I thought I'd see bold, italics, etc. pop up on the touch bar. But I get nothing.

I've run the updater, Excel is version 15.28 (161113) for example.

Anyone else seeing this?
 
RJH2 said:
Has anyone tried to use the touch bar in any of the Microsoft Office apps (Excel, Work, Powerpoint)? It's not working for me. Does it need to be enabled in settings somewhere? When I fire up any of those programs and tool around a bit, I thought I'd see bold, italics, etc. pop up on the touch bar. But I get nothing.

I've run the updater, Excel is version 15.28 (161113) for example.

Anyone else seeing this?
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I also get nothing, just the default screen and volume controls
 
Yep, that's all I am getting too. I guess Microsoft isn't supporting touchbar at launch, and will support in an upcoming update. I hadn't seen this reported anywhere though. And I looked.
 
specik said:
Apple's user interface guidelines for the Touchbar explicitly prohibit this exact use case:

Use the Touch Bar as an extension of the keyboard and trackpad, not as a display. Although technically it’s a screen, the Touch Bar functions as an input device, not a secondary display. The user may glance at the Touch Bar to locate or use a control, but their primary focus is the main screen. The Touch Bar shouldn’t display alerts, messages, scrolling content, static content, or anything else that commands the user’s attention or distracts from their work on the main screen.
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They don't want it to distract you away from the main screen, although it already does...
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Luckily this isn't a locked down iOS and I'm hopeful that developers will be able to do exactly that with the TouchBar. A couple days with my unit and I'm starting to find that unless I get information there, it's going to be rarely used. Don't get me wrong, it's got its uses, but having information there would knock it out of the park. Immediate thought would be a finder copy running in the background, a Safari download, the weather, or any other details that just needs a small window to show. Information that you would normally have to move all your windows around just to check on the status of a small progress bar. Maybe macOS 10.13 will bring that added feature set.
 
godboy said:
I just received my new 15" MBP - can someone tell me how to remove the Siri button from the touch bar? In the Verge review he mentioned being able to swap it for something he used more like Spotlight - I would love to do this, but I don't see it anywhere.
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In finder, click view, customize touch bar, then tap on the touch bar where the siri icon is and those 4 icons will start to wiggle and you can swap them out. Drag your mouse down till one of those highlights. The weird thing is I took out Siri and put in Spotlight, clicked done. Tapped the spotlight button and it does absolutely nothing. Rebooted. Same thing. Bug? Anyone else experience this?
 
You can tell nobody at Apple uses Dashboard because the TouchBar button has a bug––pressing it when Dashboard is active doesn't make it go away. I am half-surprised they bothered to make a Dashboard icon at all!

RJH2 said:
Has anyone tried to use the touch bar in any of the Microsoft Office apps (Excel, Work, Powerpoint)? It's not working for me. Does it need to be enabled in settings somewhere? When I fire up any of those programs and tool around a bit, I thought I'd see bold, italics, etc. pop up on the touch bar. But I get nothing.

I've run the updater, Excel is version 15.28 (161113) for example.

Anyone else seeing this?
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It hasn't been updated yet.
 
Excel version 15.29 (161108) doesn't seem to be supporting either, at this point. I don't understand how companies with far fewer resources (Airmail has a bunch of touch bar buttons, for example) are able to support this already. Meanwhile MS Office -- which Apple and Microsoft both used as an example of touch bar implementation at the launch event -- doesn't in the current or next versions (again, at this point). It's not a big deal, I'm just surprised.
 
RJH2 said:
Excel version 15.29 (161108) doesn't seem to be supporting either, at this point. I don't understand how companies with far fewer resources (Airmail has a bunch of touch bar buttons, for example) are able to support this already. Meanwhile MS Office -- which Apple and Microsoft both used as an example of touch bar implementation at the launch event -- doesn't in the current or next versions (again, at this point). It's not a big deal, I'm just surprised.
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Adobe CC 2017 doesn't have support in any of their apps either and it was demo'ed during the keynote. It's promised by end of the year.
 
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