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teidon

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In Mac App Store there is a section for apps that have support for Touch Bar. The list is kind of sort for now.
 

Cougarcat

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Here's another bug: when playing Netflix, the scrubber is useless. Try to use it and you get an "unexpected error."
 

Ma2k5

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Just wanted to ask - is there a way to force it to show just the F keys by default for everything - and if so, do we still get crashes/bugs when using touch bar in F key mode on these apps which have issues?
 

Cougarcat

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Just wanted to ask - is there a way to force it to show just the F keys by default for everything - and if so, do we still get crashes/bugs when using touch bar in F key mode on these apps which have issues?

No, you have to press the FN key to make them appear.
 

fokmik

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Just wanted to ask - is there a way to force it to show just the F keys by default for everything - and if so, do we still get crashes/bugs when using touch bar in F key mode on these apps which have issues?
preferences>keyboard and mouse>keyboard and see if the box for "use the F1-F12 keys to control software features"
 
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hollandog

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just got mine last night. still getting used to it but so far I like it especially touch ID.
I customized the touch bar to my preference and now it's pretty neat.
 
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unobtainium

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Played with it in the store. I was expecting it to look bright and crisp. Was surprised how dim the touch bar looked, and it wasn't particularly sharp. Must be a lower PPI than the iPhone screen for example.
 

Cougarcat

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Played with it in the store. I was expecting it to look bright and crisp. Was surprised how dim the touch bar looked, and it wasn't particularly sharp. Must be a lower PPI than the iPhone screen for example.

It's still "retina." It's 2160x60. It might have looked dim because the main display is so bright. Turn the display off and it looks a lot brighter. Or, could have been the brightness of the Apple Store.
 

cornishbrooksy

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Played with it in the store. I was expecting it to look bright and crisp. Was surprised how dim the touch bar looked, and it wasn't particularly sharp. Must be a lower PPI than the iPhone screen for example.

I cant remember where i read it, but there was a quote from Apple saying the touch bar is designed to be no brighter than the back light of the keyboard, so it doesn't glare like the main screen.....its meant to be supplementary to the keyboard and not to the screen as such.
 
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Macalway

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I wonder if there will be an option to have it always on when plugged in. People have said it times out after a minute if there's no activity. But volume controls, by their nature, are used mostly when your watching or listening and not engaging with other keys or the trackpad.

Am I missing something?

thanks
 
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cornishbrooksy

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I wonder if there will be an option to have it always on when plugged in. People have said it times out after a minute if there's no activity. But volume controls, by their nature, are used mostly when your watching or listening and not engaging with other keys or the trackpad.

Am I missing something?

thanks

Potentially a decision to avoid OLED burn in.....would happen if was always on.
 
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Macalway

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Potentially a decision to avoid OLED burn in.....would happen if was always on.

I would think there are ways around this, like shifting graphics. No reason this could not be implemented that I can see, but who knows?

Edit: Just found a great review (user) on U tube

Makes the touch bar look great. Going to buy one now definitely.

BTW, this guys reviews are very good, no? :)
 
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cullenl87

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I just got my MBP 15" and I really like the touchbar. It's really easy to turn music volume down as well as brightness. I haven't been able to use it for that long, but it's in the right position in my opinion...it's so easy to reach up and change something. You can use your index finger, middle finger, but believe it or not I find that I'm using my ring fingers to just reach up and change something. I think it's pretty awesome. The one thing that I find somewhat bothersome isn't the bar at all, it's the ENORMOUS trackpad. The insides of my palms keep brushing up against it. I guess I'll just have to get used to it. The finger print reader is great too.
 
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frankgrimes

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Detroitborg and Justine Elzarik 'IJustine' are having the best reviews of the Touchbar so far. Seems to be as expected if done right it has some advantages but it's way too early and third party support is almost non existent

Funny thing almost every reviewer finds the trackpad to damn big. Of course Ijustine's version is flying she has the maxed out one

The tld version sounds more like a commercial than a real review
 

mickliq

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I just unboxed my MBPr 2016 w/Touch Bar. The Bar seems very "matte", I just wanted to confirm there's no protective film (screen protector) to remove?
 

BenTrovato

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I just unboxed my MBPr 2016 w/Touch Bar. The Bar seems very "matte", I just wanted to confirm there's no protective film (screen protector) to remove?

Nothing to remove. Very matte.

I like the touchbar so far but I have some gripes. It takes too long to adjust the sound and the brightness. There is too many times in the day when the sound comes on unexpectedly and I need to lower it asap. I'm sure I will get faster at it but it's not better than the physical key or at least having the full volume controls always available.
 

igrover

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Just wanted to ask - is there a way to force it to show just the F keys by default for everything - and if so, do we still get crashes/bugs when using touch bar in F key mode on these apps which have issues?

Yes just open the keyboard option in System Preferences and you will see some options to make changes. I changed mine to only show the default for everything until I get more comfortable using the touch bar.
 
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MidnightSVT

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Not sure if this is the correct thread, but does anyone know if it is possible to add a Spotlight Search shortcut to the touch bar? I have looked at the Customize Touch Bar menu in the View tab while in Finder, but don't see an option for Spotlight. Maybe it's not possible?
 

fs454

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Not sure if this is the correct thread, but does anyone know if it is possible to add a Spotlight Search shortcut to the touch bar? I have looked at the Customize Touch Bar menu in the View tab while in Finder, but don't see an option for Spotlight. Maybe it's not possible?


System Preferences / Keyboard, you can customize the Control Strip there and add spotlight - best thing I've done for my touch bar so far as I've never gotten used to the shortcut for that one.
 

MidnightSVT

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System Preferences / Keyboard, you can customize the Control Strip there and add spotlight - best thing I've done for my touch bar so far as I've never gotten used to the shortcut for that one.
Thanks!!!! I will try this tonight!!!
 

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Nothing to remove. Very matte.

I like the touchbar so far but I have some gripes. It takes too long to adjust the sound and the brightness. There is too many times in the day when the sound comes on unexpectedly and I need to lower it asap. I'm sure I will get faster at it but it's not better than the physical key or at least having the full volume controls always available.
To adjust your volume or brightness quickly you just press and hold the button and move it
 

samcow

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I must say, I am enjoying the 13 inch quite a bit, Im surprised at how much I like the keyboard now, screen is great, its massively more powerful than my prior Air (my VMs no longer lag ridiculously).

But, sorry Apple the Touch Bar just seems unnecessary, I can't think of even a single time I've found a use for it. They claim its bad design for someone to touch the screen, the thing we're literally trained to be staring at while typing. Instead its better design to look down at the keyboard? Huh? And for what, to switch between tabs of a browser that are barely distinguishable on the Touch Bar? I mean honestly, I have no use for it.
 

BenTrovato

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To adjust your volume or brightness quickly you just press and hold the button and move it

Right! Just figured out the new workflow is press hold and slide. I'm so used to pressing volume down quickly and repeatedly when I need the sound turned down. It's okay for now, will have to adjust.
 

ARealRain

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Is it just me, or does the touchbar seem to make no sense when it comes to actual usability?

When you use any laptop, your focus is on the screen. When you have a touchscreen, you can see what you want to touch, and touch it directly.

When you've got keys on a keyboard, you know where you expect things, you can feel for them (being physical keys and having muscle memory), and hit "F8" without distracting your focus on the screen.

When you've got the touchbar.... you effectively have a 2nd screen that you HAVE to look at to know where your touching and what your doing, so to compose an email for example, if you want to use the touch bar, the focus of your eyes has to go from the screen, to the touchbar, find the 'compose' button, touch the 'compose' button for example, and then look back at the screen.

When you have a touchscreen so that you just look at the 'compose' button on the screen and touch the 'compose' button. Your focus is where your content and interface is at.

Is Apple really getting at an intuitive interface with the touchbar? Or is it really creating a distraction by avoiding putting in a built in touchscreen?
I've had the new MBP for three days. All good. But Starfyre is spot-on. The Touch Bar is clutter,
 

BenTrovato

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I've had the new MBP for three days. All good. But Starfyre is spot-on. The Touch Bar is clutter,

I find my workflow is slower with touchbar but I can see the potential. If I had been using this type of interface for years, I could accomplish things a bit more quickly. Right now I find that Apple hasn't thought out well enough how a person intuitively uses the touchbar to do certain actions but then again, there was no way to know this without massive amounts of user data. I like the idea of evolving the keyboard even though touchbar can sometimes be clutter/gimmicky/annoying.
 
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