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Slartibart

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I have followed this - and while the OP has found a solution to his particular scenario - I simply do not think that wireless transfers are something which works besides for a few photos.
Because it is slow.
And it uses much more battery as any other solution.

Let me expand this: I would consider myself an “invested amateur” regarding photography (and a amateur beginner regarding video). For reasons which do not really matter here besides that it is really fast while allowing to use a pencil, I moved to an iPad Pro for developing/editing/stitching the photos I take when travelling. RAWPower, Pixelmator Photo, Pixelmator, Affinity Photo and Snapseed is what I use for that.
All photos I are/edit are intended to be printed. That out of the way:

While 4Mb JPEGs are for sure fine for the occasional wireless transfer, I haven’t produced a JPEG that small for years. Mainly - as other stated here - I like to save/keep the maximum quality of any photograph I take. That’s because I recognize that I do not really know what I will need in the future, but if past experiences have shown me something, it is that I should have kept whenever possible the max. resolution “orginal”.

Because memory is cheap I take a lot photographs when I decide to take my camera with me. That’s because I’m an amateur - of all of these photos taken there might be some that “feels right” for me. My rule-of-thumb is that on a single “photo shoot“ Imight be able to take a handful photos I really like - often that equals to a daily “three” ?. Of hundreds I take.??

From my experience any directly connected SD card-reader is muuuuuuuuch faster and battery efficient than wireless (and I have a wireless SD card reader from RAVPower which is simply marvelous compared to any direct wireless transfer from a camera).

Additionally any output device from, let’s say the last few years, makes a 4 MP photo or HD video look IMHO “dated”. Don’t get me wrong. For displays this might be okay-ish, but for e.g. printing it is getting into “digging the look of ancient Roman mosaics”-area.

As far as I understand it, the OP prefers to prioritise WIFI transfer speeds over quality/pixel resolution. I personally think this is short sided.

I think that there is a certain resolution for photos or videos you take or make where said resolution becomes irrelevant. I personally do not update my TV set or display devices on an annual schedule - but 4MP photos or HD video is too much a compromise even on some of my old hardware. But then again I am not so much in video but in coffee table books. ?
 

jwolf6589

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I have followed this - and while the OP has found a solution to his particular scenario - I simply do not think that wireless transfers are something which works besides for a few photos.
Because it is slow.
And it uses much more battery as any other solution.

Let me expand this: I would consider myself an “invested amateur” regarding photography (and a amateur beginner regarding video). For reasons which do not really matter here besides that it is really fast while allowing to use a pencil, I moved to an iPad Pro for developing/editing/stitching the photos I take when travelling. RAWPower, Pixelmator Photo, Pixelmator, Affinity Photo and Snapseed is what I use for that.
All photos I are/edit are intended to be printed. That out of the way:

While 4Mb JPEGs are for sure fine for the occasional wireless transfer, I haven’t produced a JPEG that small for years. Mainly - as other stated here - I like to save/keep the maximum quality of any photograph I take. That’s because I recognize that I do not really know what I will need in the future, but if past experiences have shown me something, it is that I should have kept whenever possible the max. resolution “orginal”.

Because memory is cheap I take a lot photographs when I decide to take my camera with me. That’s because I’m an amateur - of all of these photos taken there might be some that “feels right” for me. My rule-of-thumb is that on a single “photo shoot“ Imight be able to take a handful photos I really like - often that equals to a daily “three” ?. Of hundreds I take.??

From my experience any directly connected SD card-reader is muuuuuuuuch faster and battery efficient than wireless (and I have a wireless SD card reader from RAVPower which is simply marvelous compared to any direct wireless transfer from a camera).

Additionally any output device from, let’s say the last few years, makes a 4 MP photo or HD video look IMHO “dated”. Don’t get me wrong. For displays this might be okay-ish, but for e.g. printing it is getting into “digging the look of ancient Roman mosaics”-area.

As far as I understand it, the OP prefers to prioritise WIFI transfer speeds over quality/pixel resolution. I personally think this is short sided.

I think that there is a certain resolution for photos or videos you take or make where said resolution becomes irrelevant. I personally do not update my TV set or display devices on an annual schedule - but 4MP photos or HD video is too much a compromise even on some of my old hardware. But then again I am not so much in video but in coffee table books. ?
On vacation yes. But at home I use a USB cable for transfers of photos and video over wireless.
 

jwolf6589

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I have followed this - and while the OP has found a solution to his particular scenario - I simply do not think that wireless transfers are something which works besides for a few photos.
Because it is slow.
And it uses much more battery as any other solution.

Let me expand this: I would consider myself an “invested amateur” regarding photography (and a amateur beginner regarding video). For reasons which do not really matter here besides that it is really fast while allowing to use a pencil, I moved to an iPad Pro for developing/editing/stitching the photos I take when travelling. RAWPower, Pixelmator Photo, Pixelmator, Affinity Photo and Snapseed is what I use for that.
All photos I are/edit are intended to be printed. That out of the way:

While 4Mb JPEGs are for sure fine for the occasional wireless transfer, I haven’t produced a JPEG that small for years. Mainly - as other stated here - I like to save/keep the maximum quality of any photograph I take. That’s because I recognize that I do not really know what I will need in the future, but if past experiences have shown me something, it is that I should have kept whenever possible the max. resolution “orginal”.

Because memory is cheap I take a lot photographs when I decide to take my camera with me. That’s because I’m an amateur - of all of these photos taken there might be some that “feels right” for me. My rule-of-thumb is that on a single “photo shoot“ Imight be able to take a handful photos I really like - often that equals to a daily “three” ?. Of hundreds I take.??

From my experience any directly connected SD card-reader is muuuuuuuuch faster and battery efficient than wireless (and I have a wireless SD card reader from RAVPower which is simply marvelous compared to any direct wireless transfer from a camera).

Additionally any output device from, let’s say the last few years, makes a 4 MP photo or HD video look IMHO “dated”. Don’t get me wrong. For displays this might be okay-ish, but for e.g. printing it is getting into “digging the look of ancient Roman mosaics”-area.

As far as I understand it, the OP prefers to prioritise WIFI transfer speeds over quality/pixel resolution. I personally think this is short sided.

I think that there is a certain resolution for photos or videos you take or make where said resolution becomes irrelevant. I personally do not update my TV set or display devices on an annual schedule - but 4MP photos or HD video is too much a compromise even on some of my old hardware. But then again I am not so much in video but in coffee table books. ?
Actually I do prioritize quality. My HD videos play fine on my computer and TV. My 4.4 MP images also look fine on computer, TV, and 8x10 print.
 

Slartibart

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On vacation yes. But at home I use a USB cable for transfers of photos and video over wireless.
But even a cheap SD card-reader is probably by an order of magnitude faster - not to mention that either method drains the battery of your camera.
I do not know about you, but if I travel to some location or occasion I might take - as mentioned - a lot of photos… just because deleting is better then missing. ?
Written that, may I ask how you “use” your photos and videos taken deliberately at some lower resolution?

EDIT: temporal coincidence makes the above irrelevant. See OPs post above this one ?
 

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If you have ever carried something like this around for a day, you can't go back to something smaller.
 

jwolf6589

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But even a cheap SD card-reader is probably by an order of magnitude faster - not to mention that either method drains the battery of your camera.
I do not know about you, but if I travel to some location or occasion I might take - as mentioned - a lot of photos… just because deleting is better then missing. ?
Written that, may I ask how you “use” your photos and videos taken deliberately at some lower resolution?

EDIT: temporal coincidence makes the above irrelevant. See OPs post above this one ?
My battery is charged when I transfer via USB.
 

Slartibart

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Actually I do prioritize quality. My HD videos play fine on my computer and TV. My 4.4 MP images also look fine on computer, TV, and 8x10 print.
Excellent.
All books, calendars, or posters I print are often larger. Going from A4 to A3 or a two page, flat bound, double A4 sided landscape makes a visible difference between 4MP or 36MP. Even creating a slideshow with some Ken Burns-like effects might - depending on motive - create eventually some “roman mosaic”-effekt... or loss in sharpness... depending on the scaling algorithm implemented on the technical specs of the television/beamer/monitor used.

Are you interested in a particular photographic subject?
 

jwolf6589

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Excellent.
All books, calendars, or posters I print are often larger. Going from A4 to A3 or a two page, flat bound, double A4 sided landscape makes a visible difference between 4MP or 36MP. Even creating a slideshow with some Ken Burns-like effects might - depending on motive - create eventually some “roman mosaic”-effekt... or loss in sharpness... depending on the scaling algorithm implemented on the technical specs of the television/beamer/monitor used.

Are you interested in a particular photographic subject?
Animals, nature, etc.
 

akash.nu

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That’s why I am a hobbyist


I mean I’m a hobbyist to a point where I don’t even use a “real” camera to shoot pictures. But then the type of questions you come up with @jwolf6589 are a bit weird in the sense that you tie yourself with arbitrary restrictions and then claim to be a hobbyist. I just don’t get it.

I mean why on earth would I want an inferior quality of picture when I have the capacity to take better picture?! You deliberately take worse pictures and call yourself a hobbyist for not carrying an extra cable or dongle?! This is beyond me.
 

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I mean I’m a hobbyist to a point where I don’t even use a “real” camera to shoot pictures. But then the type of questions you come up with @jwolf6589 are a bit weird in the sense that you tie yourself with arbitrary restrictions and then claim to be a hobbyist. I just don’t get it.

I mean why on earth would I want an inferior quality of picture when I have the capacity to take better picture?! You deliberately take worse pictures and call yourself a hobbyist for not carrying an extra cable or dongle?! This is beyond me.
Photography is fun and a hobby to me. I am by far no pro. If I was printing regularly then I would shoot in a higher res. But I am not so I shoot in 4.4MP on Canon. Pictures look fine. If they did not then I would adjust but it’s good getting more pics on a 32GB card and wirelessly transferring them when necessary however by default I use a usb cable which DOES DOES DOES charge battery when connected. You people need to get your facts straight. I am not using a SD card reader because it costs money and DOES NOT charge battery when connected. USB cable is good enough for millions and so it’s good enough for me.
 

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I mean I’m a hobbyist to a point where I don’t even use a “real” camera to shoot pictures. But then the type of questions you come up with @jwolf6589 are a bit weird in the sense that you tie yourself with arbitrary restrictions and then claim to be a hobbyist. I just don’t get it.

I mean why on earth would I want an inferior quality of picture when I have the capacity to take better picture?! You deliberately take worse pictures and call yourself a hobbyist for not carrying an extra cable or dongle?! This is beyond me.
Oh and by the way my battery level on Canon remains on a full bar status. Only my camcorder has gone down in battery but I have enough battery to transfer videos to Mac. My camcorder Does not charge when connected unlike my Canon Powershot.
 

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Photography is fun and a hobby to me. I am by far no pro. If I was printing regularly then I would shoot in a higher res. But I am not so I shoot in 4.4MP on Canon. Pictures look fine. If they did not then I would adjust but it’s good getting more pics on a 32GB card and wirelessly transferring them when necessary however by default I use a usb cable which DOES DOES DOES charge battery when connected. You people need to get your facts straight. I am not using a SD card reader because it costs money and DOES NOT charge battery when connected. USB cable is good enough for millions and so it’s good enough for me.
Why don't you post some picture so we can look at the quality. You claim everything looks great in 4mp. That hasn't looked great even 20 years ago when it was all we had. I look back at some of my picture with lower quality sensors and they look like lower quality sensors. Always shoot the best quality your equipment can achieve. Then when you edit your photos you can resize them. The master should always be the highest quality possible. SD card readers don't cost any more than $30 dollars. That is not a lot of money when it comes to convince. I used to dump everything via usb, now I just take the card out and do a patch dump. Then put the card back in the camera. A lot faster than waiting for a few hundred pictures to load.

Charging via usb is slow, hours slow. You can plug the charger into the wall and get a full charge in 2 hours or less. Plus it is better for the battery.

My camera has a 64gb card, that cost me maybe $30 dollars. I shoot full frame raw 24mp, I can hold over 2000 images. So don't tell me you don't have the space.
 
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jwolf6589

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Why don't you post some picture so we can look at the quality. You claim everything looks great in 4mp. That hasn't looked great even 20 years ago when it was all we had. I look back at some of my picture with lower quality sensors and they look like lower quality sensors. Always shoot the best quality your equipment can achieve. Then when you edit your photos you can resize them. The master should always be the highest quality possible. SD card readers don't cost any more than $30 dollars. That is not a lot of money when it comes to convince. I used to dump everything via usb, now I just take the card out and do a patch dump. Then put the card back in the camera. A lot faster than waiting for a few hundred pictures to load.

Charging via usb is slow, hours slow. You can plug the charger into the wall and get a full charge in 2 hours or less. Plus it is better for the battery.

My camera has a 64gb card, that cost me maybe $30 dollars. I shoot full frame raw 24mp, I can hold over 2000 images. So don't tell me you don't have the space.
I have posted pics plenty of them. Check out my lion pic which printed well at 8x10.
 

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Why don't you post some picture so we can look at the quality. You claim everything looks great in 4mp. That hasn't looked great even 20 years ago when it was all we had. I look back at some of my picture with lower quality sensors and they look like lower quality sensors. Always shoot the best quality your equipment can achieve. Then when you edit your photos you can resize them. The master should always be the highest quality possible. SD card readers don't cost any more than $30 dollars. That is not a lot of money when it comes to convince. I used to dump everything via usb, now I just take the card out and do a patch dump. Then put the card back in the camera. A lot faster than waiting for a few hundred pictures to load.

Charging via usb is slow, hours slow. You can plug the charger into the wall and get a full charge in 2 hours or less. Plus it is better for the battery.

My camera has a 64gb card, that cost me maybe $30 dollars. I shoot full frame raw 24mp, I can hold over 2000 images. So don't tell me you don't have the space.
Yes it is slow but in my case I need to take battery out and charge. Very true.
 

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Why don't you post some picture so we can look at the quality. You claim everything looks great in 4mp. That hasn't looked great even 20 years ago when it was all we had. I look back at some of my picture with lower quality sensors and they look like lower quality sensors. Always shoot the best quality your equipment can achieve. Then when you edit your photos you can resize them. The master should always be the highest quality possible. SD card readers don't cost any more than $30 dollars. That is not a lot of money when it comes to convince. I used to dump everything via usb, now I just take the card out and do a patch dump. Then put the card back in the camera. A lot faster than waiting for a few hundred pictures to load.

Charging via usb is slow, hours slow. You can plug the charger into the wall and get a full charge in 2 hours or less. Plus it is better for the battery.

My camera has a 64gb card, that cost me maybe $30 dollars. I shoot full frame raw 24mp, I can hold over 2000 images. So don't tell me you don't have the space.
I did not take a few hundred pics on my trip. I shot 11-14 videos on camcorder and like 11 photos on Powershot and like 18 photos/videos on iPhone/iPad.
 

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I did not take a few hundred pics on my trip. I shot 11-14 videos on camcorder and like 11 photos on Powershot and like 18 photos/videos on iPhone/iPad.
So you went to Alaska, and only took 14 photos?

I'll take a few hundred a day on a normal walk.
 
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