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jwolf6589

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So you went to Alaska, and only took 14 photos?

I'll take a few hundred a day on a normal walk.
I try and get the best shot possible. I don’t just take pics of everything but wait for the quality pic. If I see a mountain or lake I will take a few shots and then delete worthless shots. If I see a animal I do the same.
 

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I try and get the best shot possible. I don’t just take pics of everything but wait for the quality pic. If I see a mountain or lake I will take a few shots and then delete worthless shots. If I see a animal I do the same.
You don't know what pics are good until after you take them and look at them. I will take a few hundred and only post maybe 5 or 10. But the pictures I think are great turn out not to be the ones I like best. Once I look at everything and start editing I will find things I like in other shots. And pictures I don't like as well will get better retraction from people. I've had people like shots I've considered throw aways.
 
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The beauty of digital photography is you can take a lot of pictures. You are not tied to film and 24 or 36 per roll where you can't waste shots.
 
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You don't know what pics are good until after you take them and look at them. I will take a few hundred and only post maybe 5 or 10. But the pictures I think are great turn out not to be the ones I like best. Once I look at everything and start editing I will find things I like in other shots. And pictures I don't like as well will get better retraction from people. I've had people like shots I've considered throw aways.
Well I don’t have a DSLR but a point and shoot. I can’t easily shoot a hundred shots on a walk. If I walked in a new area and I liked the nature aspect I will take plenty of shots but delete ones I dislike. I may start with 30 shots and cut it down to 15-20 I keep.
 

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The beauty of digital photography is you can take a lot of pictures. You are not tied to film and 24 or 36 per roll where you can't waste shots.
True. However my brain may still be stuck on the 24 shots per roll days. However with my new Powershot I have good battery life and can view the pictures and have the battery last all day. Something I could not do on my old AA camera.
 

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Well I don’t have a DSLR but a point and shoot. I can’t easily shoot a hundred shots on a walk. If I walked in a new area and I liked the nature aspect I will take plenty of shots but delete ones I dislike. I may start with 30 shots and cut it down to 15-20 I keep.
When I had a point and shoot I still took hundred of shots. Cut it down to the best ones. Why are you stuck on this I don't have a DSLR so I can't take pictures fascination.
 
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When I had a point and shoot I still took hundred of shots. Cut it down to the best ones. Why are you stuck on this I don't have a DSLR so I can't take pictures fascination.
Hmm. Well I have used a DSLR before and you can rapidly take shots without delay.
 

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I get tired of the bulk so left the dongle and usb cable at home. Don’t I wish modern Macs included a SD card reader as my 2012 MPB had? I sure do. But I am afraid I am not paying $40 for another dang dongle SD card reader! USB cable works fine and it’s been paid for.

How is a USB cable "bulky"? LOL!
 
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Wow....... OP, I do think you have pointed out the significant differences between you and most of us who consider ourselves genuine hobbyists/enthusiastic amateurs when it comes to photography. I shoot a lot. Often daily. I also shoot many photos at a time, not just one or two snaps and I'm done. When on an excursion away from home it is not unusual for me to shoot several hundred photos, and even around home I've been known to do that when I've got a particularly compelling subject. I can easily spend an hour shooting one subject, really "working" it, so to speak.

For one thing, I don't just point the camera at the subject and shoot a couple of times and that's it. I actually work with my subject, trying different perspectives, different vantage points, different exposures, different apertures and different shutter speeds in order to get different "looks" and depth of field, etc., etc. When shooting an animal I shoot images of the creature doing different things, moving around, different head angles, whatever, in the hopes of catching something really unique and interesting. Sure, I could simply fire off a shot or two of Alfred standing on the pier, but I stand there and watch and wait.....and maybe can capture a good shot of him scratching his head, ululating, stretching his wings in an odd position, taking off in flight or diving into the water after a fish. I watch the Hooded Mergansers and Cormorants and patience pays off when one of them submerges himself and then comes back up with a fish flopping around in his mouth.

The day that I purchase a new camera I also purchase at least one extra battery for it (unless I already have batteries from another camera which also will work in the new one, and even at that if I plan to use both cameras simultaneously, one on the tripod and the other around my neck, I'll buy an extra battery anyway). When one is out in the field shooting and far from electricity, that is not the time to run out of power for the camera. Two, sometimes three, batteries should be in the photographer's bag. Same for memory cards. My A7R IV has two memory card slots and on a long day's photo excursion when sometimes things can get really hectic, it is convenient to have cards loaded in each slot so that when one card is used up the other card can continue right on with the shooting and the photographer's momentum is not interrupted at exactly the wrong time. Again, two or three extra memory cards should always be available in the photographer's bag as well, for those times when there is a LOT of shooting going on and also in the event of some unexpected disaster happening to a card -- corrupted images, the card breaks, etc.

Since my camera creates large files I use cards with 64GB at a minimum and on excursions when I know I'll be shooting much more extensively I use a 128 GB card. I haven't gone on a trip yet where I've needed a card with greater capacity (say, 256 GB) but that day will come eventually once traveling really eases up and I'm out on the road again. When I am spending the time and energy to be out there shooting and getting images which may never be replaceable, I want to have spares of everything at hand so that I can concentrate on what I'm shooting and not worrying about running out of battery power or running out of memory.

Depending upon my subject matter I also of course adjust the camera settings to best suit the occasion.....that is, when shooting a macro either outside or in the house, I have the setting at Single Shot, so I get one shot at a time. When shooting the geese, ducks, herons, cormorants and other denizens of the small lake upon which I live, I have the camera's drive set to Continuous High in order to be able to capture a moving subject quickly, firing off several frames per second. This of course does quickly take up space in the memory card, another reason why on a trip or excursion away from home a photographer needs more than one card! It also can use up battery power pretty quickly, too, so there is the need to have extra batteries at hand. Even when I go for a walk around the lake I always carry an extra battery and an extra memory card in a small pouch in my pocket just in case I happen upon a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for an amazing series of shots...... That is NOT the time to suddenly run out of battery power!

Everyone has their own approach to photography, of course, but for most who are serious about photography, being stingy about the number of megapixels one uses, the number of shots one takes, the number of batteries one has available and the number of extra memory cards one has ready at hand simply isn't the way we roll. Most of us are properly prepared when we set out to shoot something.
 

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Why would I shoot rapid shots of everything? I'm not shooting sports where I need to capture live motion.
True. I worked at a job once where I used a high end point and shoot to capture pictures for eBay. I had to take like 4 quality shots, crop, and then post. I learned to only take quality shots and only a few of them with a camera.
 

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True. I worked at a job once where I used a high end point and shoot to capture pictures for eBay. I had to take like 4 quality shots, crop, and then post. I learned to only take quality shots and only a few of them with a camera.
If you have seen portrait photographers, they take 100's or 1000s of shots of the same model. Every shot is quality but they want one specific look.
 
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The whole goal of photography is to learn to take quality shots. That doesn't mean only take 5.
 
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For me, also part of the enjoyment that I derive from photography is not just the images I take, the final results, but the experience of shooting them in the first place. I can readily get fully absorbed in what I am doing, focusing on the project, intently studying my subject or engaged in seeking new and interesting subjects or thinking about creative ways to approach a given subject.
 
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For me, also part of the enjoyment that I derive from photography is not just the images I take, the final results, but the experience of shooting them in the first place. I can readily get fully absorbed in what I am doing, focusing on the project, intently studying my subject or engaged in seeking new and interesting subjects or thinking about creative ways to approach a given subject.
And it's fun! I will go in with an idea of what I want to shoot, then get wrapped up in it and expand what I was originally planning to do and come out with something completely different in the end.
 

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This forum as much as it is about posting pictures, is also about learning and teaching. The goal is not to be mean, but when posting here you need to have an opened mind and accept helpful criticism.
 
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Going in with an idea of what one is going to shoot or how one is going to approach the subject and then experimenting and quite a few shots later coming out with something entirely different -- yep!! Exactly! I'll start out shooting from one perspective or set up myself and the camera to capture a specific composition, then start seeing what happens when I do this, or do that......or what happens if I use a different lens or a different exposure setting, what happens if I choose spot metering over other metering approaches, etc., etc.

That is definitely the fun and the challenge of photography; it stirs up some innate creativity, it stimulates my brain to be thinking in different ways and has me looking at everyday ordinary objects in different ways, too. It also has me aware of light and how the light can affect my subject, and also how the environment around my subject can also have an impact as well. If I'm shooting a macro or a tabletop image on the dining table, I always ensure that the table is cleared of anything on it and that I put up a foam core board or a specially designed photo board as background so that the clutter in the rest of the room beyond the dining table and the subject is not visible in the shot. I experiment with lighting to see which has the most impact and which creates the effect that I want.

I always look around, above, underneath, beside my subject before pressing the shutter. Why just snap off a shot and then looking at it later realize that, oh, yeah, there's a tree limb coming out of Aunt Sally's head? A careful look at what's behind, beside, in front of and above Aunt Sally before you ever press the shutter can make all the difference! Move the camera to get a different angle, or ask Aunt Sally to move herself and then look again, compose, then shoot..... The person who just takes snapshots fires off one or two shots and that's it. The photographer, though, might think of a fun way for Aunt Sally to position herself, something unusual and interesting which would make a much more appealing image than a snapshot of her just standing there under a tree.
 

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This forum as much as it is about posting pictures, is also about learning and teaching. The goal is not to be mean, but when posting here you need to have an opened mind and accept helpful criticism.
and accept that you might be subjective… which some call “wrong”. I assume that most people here agree with:

“Photography is the easiest medium with which to be merely competent. Almost anybody can be competent. It’s the hardest medium in which to have some sort of personal vision and to have a signature style.”​

Chuck Close

The OP is technically right that a 4MP photo is sufficient to be printed on A4. Even more so when the 4MP is constructed from a much larger resolution.

Everyone here can easily check by going to his profile what photos/pictures he posted on this platform.

If the OP is happy with his hardware and has self-defined limits - you might have a different view, opinion or abilities (which might require to take a lot of photographs, which I basically do to because “I don’t get it right in one” - I wish I would… and probably would cherish the memory of the moment even if I had just one single blurred photo instead of the one “good” I choose from the bunch I took ?).

Most of the points written here lately are not “criticism”, there opinion. Which differ.
 
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