Transferring photos/videos wirelessly

[r.harris1]

OP isn't likely to change their approach. They seem pretty contented with it. This is cool. It's not my approach nor many others here. But hey, whatever. I think a lot of ink (and angst) has been spilled to nudge OP in a direction they're not interested in . The good thing is that the advice given will be useful to others.

I have some competence. I'll always be working on a personal vision and style. I'm a "slow photographer" mostly - I might do 6-10 shots on an outing. Mostly manual focus on pretty heavy equipment that takes a fair amount of time to set up and take down. The exception will be when I shoot wildlife, but that will rarely be more than a few dozen an hour. And all of this with mixed results . I'm interested in the art and the science. I'm interested in being deliberate. I'm interested in image quality and the quality of the image. I learn a lot here and I value it highly, along with all of the different personalities and opinions. Even OP has shown me that people's approach and interests aren't uniform. It may not be my own approach and I admit I get discombobulated in the twists and turns in some of OP's threads but it keeps things lively and interesting.

 

[Clix Pix]

I tend to sometimes be very deliberate and thoughtful in my approach and at other times see something happening and quickly grab whatever camera is at hand and promptly shoot the action...... Once in a while with the latter approach I'll still manage to get some sort of decent shot, while at other times, no, but that's OK. Again it was the experience of seeing what was happening and shooting it at that time...... Fortunately I am not shooting for a paying client, a publication or for a gallery display of my work..... I just enjoy the act of taking photographs. When they are more artistic than simply snapshots, that pleases me greatly. The images which are more artistic, at least in my opinion, or the more visually interesting and hopefully demonstrating some level of technical proficiency as well are the ones which I choose to share. A lot of images I shoot don't get beyond an initial look in the post-processing stage......

 

[jwolf6589]

and accept that you might be subjective… which some call “wrong”. I assume that most people here agree with:

“Photography is the easiest medium with which to be merely competent. Almost anybody can be competent. It’s the hardest medium in which to have some sort of personal vision and to have a signature style.”​

—Chuck Close

The OP is technically right that a 4MP photo is sufficient to be printed on A4. Even more so when the 4MP is constructed from a much larger resolution.

Everyone here can easily check by going to his profile what photos/pictures he posted on this platform.

If the OP is happy with his hardware and has self-defined limits - you might have a different view, opinion or abilities (which might require to take a lot of photographs, which I basically do to because “I don’t get it right in one” - I wish I would… and probably would cherish the memory of the moment even if I had just one single blurred photo instead of the one “good” I choose from the bunch I took ?).

Most of the points written here lately are not “criticism”, there opinion. Which differ.

No kidding. Like those that continue to tell me to use a Sd card reader over a USB cable and have not offered to pay the $40 required to buy it. That’s a opinion not a fact. I prefer a usb cable and yes it does charge my Powershot.

 

[r.harris1]

No kidding. Like those that continue to tell me to use a Sd card reader over a USB cable and have not offered to pay the $40 required to buy it. That’s a opinion not a fact. I prefer a usb cable and yes it does charge my Powershot.

I personally think you should use whatever works for you. I know it’s hard, but try not to confuse passion of opinion from interest and pursuit of a hobby to trying to be disrespectful. It’s just passion. Everyone is simply offering their experience. Shoot whatever you want, however you want.

 

[MevetS]

I don’t think anyone would argue there isn’t a use case for a one-off transfer while traveling.

but the OP has a great disdain for card readers and only wants slow wireless or a usb cord from camera to computer. He wants fast wireless and thinks with smaller file sizes it shouldn’t be an issue.

I I noted in a since deleted post ... the two posts immediately above mine did just that.

And yes, the OP has a distain for many things even hobbiest photographers find are best practices. To each their own I guess.

And I will no longer be contributing to these threads. Life it too short and I've better things to do with my time. You can lead a horse to water only so many times.

Cheers.

 

[jwolf6589]

I I noted in a since deleted post ... the two posts immediately above mine did just that.

And yes, the OP has a distain for many things even hobbiest photographers find are best practices. To each their own I guess.

And I will no longer be contributing to these threads. Life it too short and I've better things to do with my time. You can lead a horse to water only so many times.

Cheers.

Excuse me??????? Comparing me to a horse because I disagree with you and won’t let you force your prefs on me?????

 

[Clix Pix]

Actually, photography, when undertaken and pursued by most enthusiasts and serious hobbyists, is a very expensive and potentially time-consuming passion. Those who get into this thing full-tilt quickly become well aware of that and are usually willing and able to spend the needed funds to purchase the camera (and lens[es]) of their choice as well as what are deemed by most experienced photographers as the immediately necessary accessories.

If someone has other interests and additionally has a history of or is currently struggling with management of their personal finances and/or does not have the kind of discretionary income usually enjoyed by photography enthusiasts, nor the interest in or ability to spend serious time in learning photography, probably they are best off sticking with either their smartphone or an inexpensive P&S and just shooting snapshots and calling it a day......

 

[jwolf6589]

I personally think you should use whatever works for you. I know it’s hard, but try not to confuse passion of opinion from interest and pursuit of a hobby to trying to be disrespectful. It’s just passion. Everyone is simply offering their experience. Shoot whatever you want, however you want.

Thank you.

 

[MacNut]

Actually, photography, when undertaken and pursued by most enthusiasts and serious hobbyists, is a very expensive and potentially time-consuming passion. Those who get into this thing full-tilt quickly become well aware of that and are usually willing and able to spend the needed funds to purchase the camera (and lens[es]) of their choice as well as what are deemed by most experienced photographers as the immediately necessary accessories.

If someone has other interests and additionally has a history of or is currently struggling with management of their personal finances and/or does not have the kind of discretionary income usually enjoyed by photography enthusiasts, nor the interest in or ability to spend serious time in learning photography, probably they are best off sticking with either their smartphone or an inexpensive P&S and just shooting snapshots and calling it a day......

Honestly most people don't need expensive gear or have a want to learn how to use it. A cell phone is perfectly fine for the majority of those people taking pictures of their cat.

 

[mollyc]

Excuse me??????? Comparing me to a horse because I disagree with you and won’t let you force your prefs on me?????

Actually no one is trying to force their preferences on you. Over the years we have all learned best practices, some from experience and some just from reading.

typically when a newer photographer comes to this board asking a lot of questions, we try to steer them in the right direction. It’s confusing for us to have someone ask questions and rebuff almost every answer.

that said, I personally will never ask you to use a card reader again.

why don’t you join our photo of the day thread? All skill levels, all cameras welcomed, and no critique unless specifically asked for. ?

 

[Apple fanboy]

On vacation in Alaska and did not bring my dongle nor USB cable so I am set to transferring photos/videos wirelessly to my phone. Notice there is a delay in transferring them and there is almost no delay in doing this via a USB cable. I do not know why camera makers have decided not to ship their cameras with USB cables these days thinking that wireless transfer will replace it when it will not. But since many would rather use their phones over a regular computer I guess that is the reason why. Anyone? Oh and most of my videos are being done on my Canon Camcorder but this one was a cheaper model lacking a wireless feature so those videos will have to wait till I get home to be on my Mac.

Oh and this is a good reason why NOT to choose the highest resolution when shooting photos because of the delay in transferring them.

You asked some valid questions. Having read through all of this thread I see many knowledgeable hobbiest (I use this term not because their photos are below standard, just I know the majority don’t earn a living through photography) photographers have answered your questions and given you some insight as to their workflow and best practices.
It appears you are on a different path. That’s fine.
Personally like many I’ve never used any cable to connect my camera to a computer. Just pull out the SD card and stick it in the reader. Quickest transfer. Batteries go in the battery charger. Gives me a good opportunity to rotate the one in the camera with one in the bag etc.
I shoot RAW at the highest resolution I can. Why? Because why not. If I decide to crop my image because there is something I didn’t see or like about the composition I can. I still end up with a file bigger than you started with. Gives me options.
Enjoy your photography the way that works for you. But if you post on here wondering why we all work differently to you, please at least listen to what we are trying to say.
Alternatively if you don’t want to hear the answers, don’t ask the questions! I think you post more threads than pictures.

 

[jwolf6589]

You asked some valid questions. Having read through all of this thread I see many knowledgeable hobbiest (I use this term not because their photos are below standard, just I know the majority don’t earn a living through photography) photographers have answered your questions and given you some insight as to their workflow and best practices.
It appears you are on a different path. That’s fine.
Personally like many I’ve never used any cable to connect my camera to a computer. Just pull out the SD card and stick it in the reader. Quickest transfer. Batteries go in the battery charger. Gives me a good opportunity to rotate the one in the camera with one in the bag etc.
I shoot RAW at the highest resolution I can. Why? Because why not. If I decide to crop my image because there is something I didn’t see or like about the composition I can. I still end up with a file bigger than you started with. Gives me options.
Enjoy your photography the way that works for you. But if you post on here wondering why we all work differently to you, please at least listen to what we are trying to say.
Alternatively if you don’t want to hear the answers, don’t ask the questions! I think you post more threads than pictures.

Not once did I ask a question on anything that I am not doing such as using a card reader over a cable, or shooting at a higher res than 4.4MP.

 

[jwolf6589]

Actually no one is trying to force their preferences on you. Over the years we have all learned best practices, some from experience and some just from reading.

typically when a newer photographer comes to this board asking a lot of questions, we try to steer them in the right direction. It’s confusing for us to have someone ask questions and rebuff almost every answer.

that said, I personally will never ask you to use a card reader again.

why don’t you join our photo of the day thread? All skill levels, all cameras welcomed, and no critique unless specifically asked for. ?

Not once have I asked for anything I wont do such as shooting at a higher res or using a card reader.

 

[MevetS]

Excuse me??????? Comparing me to a horse because I disagree with you and won’t let you force your prefs on me?????

You ask questions. People such as myself and others answer them with what are generally considered best practices and you argue against them.

Good for you that you’re content with your photography.

No one is forcing anything on you. But it is not clear why you ask your questions. Nor is it worth my time to answer them.

Take care.

 

[Apple fanboy]

Not once did I ask a question on anything that I am not doing such as using a card reader over a cable, or shooting at a higher res than 4.4MP.

Okay like others I’ll just stop trying to be helpful and ignore your many threads.
Enjoy your photography.

 

[r.harris1]

That there are 6 pages on the topic of wireless transfers is indicative of OPs threads. It should have been a short thread with a small handful of posts. Or OP going to Google. The answer is "it's generally the slowest method of transfer". And yet, here we are 6 pages later. Sometimes OP's posts seem an exercise in upping their post count given the bizarre twists and turns these threads take. As I said earlier, too much ink, too much angst.

OP is happy, presumably, and isn't here for advice. OP shouldn't worry about wireless transfer speeds, or having a point/shoot (which seems to come up a lot for them for some reason), or about megapixels or whether they are a hobbyist. Please, just go out and shoot. Most cameras from the last 5 years produce nice images under a reasonably wide set of circumstances. OP's does too.

Most of us here, as has been noted, are hobbyists. We're interested in photography and the art/science of creating great images. That hobby (and even the profession) has a set "of best practices" to which most try to adhere. When you get answers, we (or at least I) come at it from that perspective. If you don't want answers from that perspective, you may (will) be disappointed in the answers you receive. Also, unless you give a budget, I'm not likely to answer specifically focused on the cheapest solution. Just the best one. If you have a budget you want to adhere to, then say so.

As we've mentioned a lot, OP should Post in the Picture of the Day thread. The topic of a person's camera choice doesn't really come up or whether they transferred that image over wireless or cable or card reader. Or whether they use card readers. Or what the megapixels are. iPhone, p-n-s, "pro" cameras - it's all there. Cameras from 10 years ago or older too. Film scans even. Nice images. Go post there.

 

[mollyc]

Not once have I asked for anything I wont do such as shooting at a higher res or using a card reader.

The entire premise of your original post is that you notice a delay in wireless transfer. You also lament the fact that USB cords aren't always included. So we tell you why that is -- card readers. That you don't want to use one doesn't change the fact that it is a valid option. I am happy you have a solution that works for you. Truly I am. But when you come on here as ask why something does or doesn't work and we (multiple people) tell you the same thing over and over again, it doesn't make sense to get mad at us.

Also, in the last sentence of your first post you state why people should choose a lower resolution. None of us in this group are going to move to low res. Believe it or not, we don't care if you shoot low res, but I personally anticipate a day where you are going to shoot an image you like but the resolution is too low to print well and then you will come asking about upsizing software.

It's confusing because you lay out these almost made up scenarios from a workflow of 15 years ago and when we tell you the world has moved on, you just want to stick with the ancient workflow. That's fine. ? It really and truly is. But stop asking about outdated workflows here because none of us are ever going backwards.

On vacation in Alaska and did not bring my dongle nor USB cable so I am set to transferring photos/videos wirelessly to my phone. Notice there is a delay in transferring them and there is almost no delay in doing this via a USB cable. I do not know why camera makers have decided not to ship their cameras with USB cables these days thinking that wireless transfer will replace it when it will not. But since many would rather use their phones over a regular computer I guess that is the reason why. Anyone? Oh and most of my videos are being done on my Canon Camcorder but this one was a cheaper model lacking a wireless feature so those videos will have to wait till I get home to be on my Mac.

Oh and this is a good reason why NOT to choose the highest resolution when shooting photos because of the delay in transferring them.

 

[Macshroomer]

Every trip I was on I would take the pictures and wait until I got home to do a photo dump. Never once did I need to offload photos right away.

Yeah, me neither unless I needed to free up space on cards on a very big commercial shoot. But for showing the clients a couple of images via remote, it is fantastic.

See? Not everyone is you…

 

[MacNut]

Yeah, me neither unless I needed to free up space on cards on a very big commercial shoot. But for showing the clients a couple of images via remote, it is fantastic.

See? Not everyone is you…

In the case, just tether the camera.

 

[Macshroomer]

Actually, photography, when undertaken and pursued by most enthusiasts and serious hobbyists, is a very expensive and potentially time-consuming passion. Those who get into this thing full-tilt quickly become well aware of that and are usually willing and able to spend the needed funds to purchase the camera (and lens[es]) of their choice as well as what are deemed by most experienced photographers as the immediately necessary accessories.

If someone has other interests and additionally has a history of or is currently struggling with management of their personal finances and/or does not have the kind of discretionary income usually enjoyed by photography enthusiasts, nor the interest in or ability to spend serious time in learning photography, probably they are best off sticking with either their smartphone or an inexpensive P&S and just shooting snapshots and calling it a day......

Now bear in mind that this is not directed at anyone but it is just my observation after watching the whole Internet photo enthusiast thing take hold over the past couple decades…

The world of the “serious amateur” is indeed a strange one. I can not think of any other hobby in which the person engaged in it is so super over the top serious and taking them selves so super over the top serious and then they have to declare in 25% or more of their posts that the are “Only a hobbyist”, lol!!!

Well considering that it is quite often their work is not even remotely good my answer would simply be, “well of course you are.”

 

[r.harris1]

Yeah, me neither unless I needed to free up space on cards on a very big commercial shoot. But for showing the clients a couple of images via remote, it is fantastic.

See? Not everyone is you…

For those here with clients or similar use cases, yes, it can be nice. It can let them rate, ask questions, etc. Every tool has a function.

 

[mollyc]

The world of the “serious amateur” is indeed a strange one. I can not think of any other hobby in which the person engaged in it is so super over the top serious and taking them selves so super over the top serious and then they have to declare in 25% of their posts that the are “Only a hobbyist”, lol!!!

Well considering that it is quite often their work is not even remotely good my answer would simply be, “well of course you are.”

1. Not really the best way to win friends and influence people on the photo board.

2. Clearly you haven’t read many posts by the OP.

 

[Macshroomer]

In the case, just tether the camera.

On a lifestyle ski action shoot or hours long time exposures taken along the sea shore in Costa Rica at 3AM??

No dude…just no, lol!

 

[Macshroomer]

1. Not really the best way to win friends and influence people on the photo board.

2. Clearly you haven’t read many posts by the OP.

The OP is just, well…his reputation seems to precede him, I’m far less interested in his banter than I am some of the odd replies that has come of it.

But the I constant I am just an amateur vindication thing, freaking odd man, lol!!’
Im just wondering why it is that this happens? It’s like some odd chest beating mating ritual on enthusiast photo forums, I see it in no other so called hobby?

Enlighten me then, you know?

 

[Clix Pix]

The reason the word "hobbyist" is being tossed around so much in this particular thread is that this same OP a while back asked questions which stimulated explanations and discussion around the differences between professional photographers and those who do photography and take it seriously but who are not engaged in it for earning their living even though they may have the same sort of gear that a professional does. The OP had apparently had the idea that someone using a high-end DSLR or MILC was then a "professional," when that is not always the case, and anyone who has been seriously interested in photography for a while knows that or quickly learns it.

Also there is a difference, too, between someone who is a hobbyist, someone who spends a fair amount of time in enjoying photography, and someone who only gets out the camera (usually a P&S) when there is a family celebratory occasion or a vacation trip somewhere..... Many of those people no longer even use P&S cameras at all, they just grab their smartphone when they want to take a snapshot of something or someone.